Alpha Tauri and the FIA

Alpha Tauri and the FIA

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honda_exige

6,029 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th February
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520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
Or Toto's wife being on the FIA payroll!

Schrodinger's FIA to some on here; enough integrity that they can employ a team principal's wife with no suggestion of corruption but also bent enough that some shirts and trousers supplied by a subsidiary of a team suggests corruption.
Susie works for FOM, not the FIA.
OK substitute Susie for Shaila Ann Rao. Same point.
She isn't on the FIA payroll either.
She was Interim Secretary General.... of the FIA.
She was, she no longer is.

If we substitute her for Susie in your incorrect statement it reads

Or Shaila Ann Rao being on the FIA payroll!

An incorrect statement.

If you want to pull more recent conflicts of interests out of your arris, the most recent has happened January this year.

The FIA has appointed Tim Malyon as Sporting Director within the Single-Seater department.

Malyon will oversee all sporting matters including Race Director, the Remote Operations Centre (ROC) in Geneva, and will report to FIA Single-Seater Director Nikolas Tombazis.

The key role at the FIA for the coming season was working previously for Red Bull.

How do you like those apples?
Like Shaila - it doesn't matter, same as some shirts and trousers.

520TORQUES

4,609 posts

16 months

Tuesday 20th February
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honda_exige said:
520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
Or Toto's wife being on the FIA payroll!

Schrodinger's FIA to some on here; enough integrity that they can employ a team principal's wife with no suggestion of corruption but also bent enough that some shirts and trousers supplied by a subsidiary of a team suggests corruption.
Susie works for FOM, not the FIA.
OK substitute Susie for Shaila Ann Rao. Same point.
She isn't on the FIA payroll either.
She was Interim Secretary General.... of the FIA.
She was, she no longer is.

If we substitute her for Susie in your incorrect statement it reads

Or Shaila Ann Rao being on the FIA payroll!

An incorrect statement.

If you want to pull more recent conflicts of interests out of your arris, the most recent has happened January this year.

The FIA has appointed Tim Malyon as Sporting Director within the Single-Seater department.

Malyon will oversee all sporting matters including Race Director, the Remote Operations Centre (ROC) in Geneva, and will report to FIA Single-Seater Director Nikolas Tombazis.

The key role at the FIA for the coming season was working previously for Red Bull.

How do you like those apples?
Like Shaila - it doesn't matter, same as some shirts and trousers.
Then why did you try and bring Susie Wolff into the discussion, incorrectly so too, as is your usual form?

ridds

8,226 posts

245 months

Tuesday 20th February
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520TORQUES said:
Bas Jaski said:
There's also plenty of ECU manufacturers out there. Why did they go with Mclaren? Could've stuck a (very much race proven) Motec ECU in for all teams.
Something like a Motec, with respect to them, is not on the same level as the systems required to run a modern F1 powertrain. McLaren electronics were the best in the business and generations ahead of any traditional aftermarket ECU. The systems are fully open to the FIA, it's just a best in class component with a configuration controlled by the FIA.
Indeed, Atlas is head an shoulders above M1 and i2.

A Bosch or Conti System may have been closer in capability but far worse in complexity and cost.

honda_exige

6,029 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th February
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520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
Or Toto's wife being on the FIA payroll!

Schrodinger's FIA to some on here; enough integrity that they can employ a team principal's wife with no suggestion of corruption but also bent enough that some shirts and trousers supplied by a subsidiary of a team suggests corruption.
Susie works for FOM, not the FIA.
OK substitute Susie for Shaila Ann Rao. Same point.
She isn't on the FIA payroll either.
She was Interim Secretary General.... of the FIA.
She was, she no longer is.

If we substitute her for Susie in your incorrect statement it reads

Or Shaila Ann Rao being on the FIA payroll!

An incorrect statement.

If you want to pull more recent conflicts of interests out of your arris, the most recent has happened January this year.

The FIA has appointed Tim Malyon as Sporting Director within the Single-Seater department.

Malyon will oversee all sporting matters including Race Director, the Remote Operations Centre (ROC) in Geneva, and will report to FIA Single-Seater Director Nikolas Tombazis.

The key role at the FIA for the coming season was working previously for Red Bull.

How do you like those apples?
Like Shaila - it doesn't matter, same as some shirts and trousers.
Then why did you try and bring Susie Wolff into the discussion, incorrectly so too, as is your usual form?
Because if you take the ridiculous angle that shirts and trousers may influence races or policy then you should also have been vocal about Shaila's appointment. You either have complete seperation of the FIA from teams commercially and ex-employees or you don't.

garypotter

1,506 posts

151 months

Wednesday 21st February
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520TORQUES said:
Bo_apex said:
520TORQUES said:
Bas Jaski said:
When Todt became FIA president everyone had their panties in a twist. Nothing happened.


You lot really, really need to stop wearing your tin foil hats.
Apart from the secret deal with Ferrari when they ran their illegal fuel flow sensor which allowed more power. You are correct, nothing "official" happened there.
The FIA soon shut down that piece of ingenuity. Did they prove it was actually illegal ?
By soon you mean after two years. They introduced a second fuel flow sensor into the system after they discovered the cheat and covered up their agreement with Ferrari. Even Max called them cheats.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single...
Or the Red bull floating floor.......

Bo_apex

2,568 posts

219 months

Wednesday 21st February
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520TORQUES said:
honda_exige said:
Or Toto's wife being on the FIA payroll!

Schrodinger's FIA to some on here; enough integrity that they can employ a team principal's wife with no suggestion of corruption but also bent enough that some shirts and trousers supplied by a subsidiary of a team suggests corruption.
Susie works for FOM, not the FIA.
It's fine. FOM has monitoring cameras to ensure Pillow Talk doesn't occur

Bo_apex

2,568 posts

219 months

Wednesday 21st February
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garypotter said:
520TORQUES said:
Bo_apex said:
520TORQUES said:
Bas Jaski said:
When Todt became FIA president everyone had their panties in a twist. Nothing happened.


You lot really, really need to stop wearing your tin foil hats.
Apart from the secret deal with Ferrari when they ran their illegal fuel flow sensor which allowed more power. You are correct, nothing "official" happened there.
The FIA soon shut down that piece of ingenuity. Did they prove it was actually illegal ?
By soon you mean after two years. They introduced a second fuel flow sensor into the system after they discovered the cheat and covered up their agreement with Ferrari. Even Max called them cheats.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single...
Or the Red bull floating floor.......
So Sir Lewis Hamilton has chosen to defect to a team of cheaters ?