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heebeegeetee
19,571 posts
118 months
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XitUp said: Nope, you're still wrong. Heebeegeetee will tell you, all HGV drivers are kinds of the road and the best drivers evah!  Tbh, whenever I'm in my car I notice HGVs very little indeed. All I ever seem to do is pass them by, and I always struggle to understand how people manage to have so much trouble with them.
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dm46
227 posts
14 months
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A base model diguised as a top of the range sports one. Ususually a 1.1 with "gti" or "rs" badges on it with outrageous bodykits.  s
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heebeegeetee
19,571 posts
118 months
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R300will said: I don't hate everybody, i don't even hate HGV drivers tbh i just know that they tend to be stupid and make the mistakes like the ones i have already highlighted. Blocking the merge in turn situation is another prime example, they are breaking the law by blocking the lanes like they do thinking they are the traffic cops. No wonder peopel get pissed off at them. I can only say, speaking (yawn, I know) as someone who spent 30 years doing 50k miles pa in both car and hgv, my experience is the opposite of yours. On the red light thing, i used to see on average 10 cars a month pass through red lights, compared to approx 3-4 hgvs a year (on average), and even then they tend to be roundabout lights as opposed to driving straight through a cross roads whilst passing the other stationary vehicles. Even got hit by one of them once. I don't think they tend to be stupid at all. This is based on the fact that they cause me no difficulties whatsoever. As stated repeatedly, I seem to be always passing them by at sufficient a rate that they barely feature on my radar at all when in my car.
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
43 months
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To be entirely honest HGV drivers seem to cause the least litres of piss boiled per mile in my opinion. Its just when an 18 wheel truck f ks up you notice it more than Mr Ofemi's L reg Micra.
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
43 months
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dm46 said: A base model diguised as a top of the range sports one. Ususually a 1.1 with "gti" or "rs" badges on it with outrageous bodykits. s Ah, so you live in Essex too? Which part?
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e21Mark
1,858 posts
43 months
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People that tail-gate. Especially in torrential rain.
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Zoobeef
1,335 posts
28 months
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Having started to use the m42/a42 again. The amount of wagons overtaking when within the time restriction saying they're not aloud
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heebeegeetee
19,571 posts
118 months
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Zoobeef said: Having started to use the m42/a42 again. The amount of wagons overtaking when within the time restriction saying they're not aloud I have a piece of film of that, I must find it and post it up. Mind you I've heard that it's know for people to break the speed limit on that road, though not when the trucks are side-by-side obviously.
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XitUp
7,690 posts
74 months
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essexplumber said: To be entirely honest HGV drivers seem to cause the least litres of piss boiled per mile in my opinion. Its just when an 18 wheel truck f ks up you notice it more than Mr Ofemi's L reg Micra. This is true. But because of the size of their vehicle they have a MUCH greater responsibility to other road users than the average driver. I know most do take this into consideration though.
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heebeegeetee
19,571 posts
118 months
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XitUp said: This is true.
But because of the size of their vehicle they have a MUCH greater responsibility to other road users than the average driver. I know most do take this into consideration though. How do you know what most hgv drivers (or anyone else) do or think? Myself I feel I have the same responsibility to all other people at all times, ie, I must do no harm to others. This doesn't change at any time or for any reason. If I hurt someone with my car I don't think my punishment should be less because I didn't hurt them with a lorry, indeed I have far less excuse for hurting someone with a car because cars are extremely easy to operate. I have to take greater care with a lorry because they are harder to operate, although why so many people drive like they do whenever they're near a lorry will always remain a mystery to me. The sheer lack of the self-survival instinct in so many people is amazing.
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XitUp
7,690 posts
74 months
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I think you're agreeing with me whilst trying to argue with me.
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heebeegeetee
19,571 posts
118 months
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XitUp said: I think you're agreeing with me whilst trying to argue with me. I take appropriate care for each vehicle, but I consider my responsibility to others to be exactly the same regardless of the vehicle. From what I used to see, most road users took little responsibility for myself or themselves whenever they got near an hgv. On a regular basis I would experience total strangers placing their lives in my hands, in that they would place themselves in danger and rely on me to get them out of it.
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HairbearTE
580 posts
24 months
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Cyclists riding 2 abrest, having a nice conversation along the way. Dosen't so much make me think "knob", rather i'm thinking "4000 points".
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XitUp
7,690 posts
74 months
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The fact that you have more potential to cause harm means you have a greater responsibility.
I can hurt someone with my driving much more than I can with my cycling, so when I'm driving I have more responsibility to others.
I can sympathise how it must be hard when driving a vehicle with poor visibility and manoeuvrability when surrounded by people not paying attention to what they're doing.
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heebeegeetee
19,571 posts
118 months
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XitUp said: The fact that you have more potential to cause harm means you have a greater responsibility. I think my responsibility to not harm others remains the same at all times.
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XitUp
7,690 posts
74 months
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Indeed, put your potential to cause harm increases with the size of your vehicle, and therefor the need to be observant/calm/etc does too. HairbearTE said: Cyclists riding 2 abrest, having a nice conversation along the way. Dosen't so much make me think "knob", rather i'm thinking "4000 points". You're a daft .
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e21Mark
1,858 posts
43 months
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XitUp said: Indeed, put your potential to cause harm increases with the size of your vehicle, and therefor the need to be observant/calm/etc does too. HairbearTE said: Cyclists riding 2 abrest, having a nice conversation along the way. Dosen't so much make me think "knob", rather i'm thinking "4000 points". You're a daft . I live near Richmond Park and whilst I have nothing against cyclists I have seen this happen a few times recently. I've also almost been hit by a cyclist who's steering control came second to her speaking on her mobile. It's people like that, that give cyclists a bad name.
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XitUp
7,690 posts
74 months
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First one, you're wrong. Second one, you're right.
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ADM06
563 posts
42 months
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Drivers crawling down a slip road and trying to merge with 70mph traffic doing 40. Dear.f king.god
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CommanderJameson
21,011 posts
96 months
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heebeegeetee said: I always struggle to understand how people manage to have so much trouble with them. This is because you, like many people, are a bit solipsistic.
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