RE: SOTW: Porsche 944
Discussion
lordlee said:
Sounds like the pinion Bearing could be on it's way out. Not a cheap fix and I suspect the vendor already knows this. I reckon an S2 or a Turbo would suit entry level Porsche ownership far better as the early 944's do feel rather lethargic. Watch for rust in the sills as Rob said but also the lower part of the front wings too.
I thought a pinion bearing going would cause a whining from the rear, not a clunk...Had one of these go in a 968cs and it was a £600 fix from a specialist.... you are right not cheap!
Chris
r1ch said:
I always look at those rear seats and think how comfortable they look, can anybody confirm the comfyness of the rear seats?
They're really comfy. It's when you try and pull the front seat back or shut the door when the problems arise. If I sit in the back behind the passenger my knee ends up sticking out the door when the front seat is pulled back.
Strawman said:
Possibly for a dwarf, I think only a child can fit in them really unless the front seat is pushed all the way forward.
MadRob6 said:
They're really comfy. It's when you try and pull the front seat back or shut the door when the problems arise. If I sit in the back behind the passenger my knee ends up sticking out the door when the front seat is pulled back.
Not how I imagined the seats to be - sigh*. Remind me a bit of the VW Corrado rear seats with the deeper style rear bench.
Zumbruk said:
Been there. Done that. Not going there again.
I look at the spreadsheet for mine, it has cost 38ppm in the 6 years I've owned it. That includes a 2K MOT (sills, wishbones etc). In that time it has done 42Kmiles, the first 18 month as a daily driver when it did 38K with just servicing and a clutch slave. Mine had no history but signs of being looked after such as decent tyres, porshe filters etc.A 944 is pretty cheap to run and reliable if you buy the right one. Prob best suited to the home mechanic who is compentant enough to change belts etc. They aren't over complicated, not too bad to fix and theres loads of spare parts available which keep the costs down.
The 2.5 8V N/A engine is very robust. A guy over in the states turbocharged one with stock CR and E85, it was making ~400bhp which it ran daily for about 9 months before expiring.
They were very conservatively mapped from the factory so sorting out the engine management system will yield some great benefits in terms of power output and driveability.
The 2.5 8V N/A engine is very robust. A guy over in the states turbocharged one with stock CR and E85, it was making ~400bhp which it ran daily for about 9 months before expiring.
They were very conservatively mapped from the factory so sorting out the engine management system will yield some great benefits in terms of power output and driveability.
lordlee said:
Sounds like the pinion Bearing could be on it's way out. Not a cheap fix and I suspect the vendor already knows this. I reckon an S2 or a Turbo would suit entry level Porsche ownership far better as the early 944's do feel rather lethargic. Watch for rust in the sills as Rob said but also the lower part of the front wings too.
It is not a Pinion bearing, pinion bearings whine or drone not clonk, rare on 944s anyway. Pretty much guarantee it is CV joint which as I said elsewhere is £50 and some swearing!Mine (87 2.5) feels far from lethargic & goes quite well. S2 (or any 16V) & turbos have much higher running costs as well.
tr7v8 said:
I look at the spreadsheet for mine, it has cost 38ppm in the 6 years I've owned it. That includes a 2K MOT (sills, wishbones etc). In that time it has done 42Kmiles, the first 18 month as a daily driver when it did 38K with just servicing and a clutch slave. Mine had no history but signs of being looked after such as decent tyres, porshe filters etc.
My 924 Turbo cost me several major organs. When I sold it, it needed valve stem seals and/or a new turbo, so I shifted it to another mug like me who disappeared, happy as Larry, in a huge cloud of blue smoke.It taught me a very good lesson, though, and I've never been stitched up with a s/h car ever again. I wouldn't touch this SotW with a s
tty stick.I suspect at a grand it would potentially break for more if it did go tits up.
Good shed but these are not very fast, used to encounter a B reg one on my commute up the A34 bypass that was always up for a (sensible) play, me in a MK2 8 valve Golf GTI with the usual bolt ons (116.5 BHP, the .5 was very important
) and uprated suspension, it was not really any quicker, perhaps a bit as speeds got higher but not much.
But then, its a Porsche for a grand, the professional Porsche Logo carbo ceramic cup holder prepartion pack on a new 911 is 3 grand or something.
Good shed but these are not very fast, used to encounter a B reg one on my commute up the A34 bypass that was always up for a (sensible) play, me in a MK2 8 valve Golf GTI with the usual bolt ons (116.5 BHP, the .5 was very important
) and uprated suspension, it was not really any quicker, perhaps a bit as speeds got higher but not much.But then, its a Porsche for a grand, the professional Porsche Logo carbo ceramic cup holder prepartion pack on a new 911 is 3 grand or something.
Here's one that was on my watch list (without niggles but above shed limit)
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Why do people put a lot of emphasis on rust problems on Porsche of this era? In this period, to the best of my knowledge, only Porsche and Audi were fully galvanising their cars. The first Audi being the 80/90 of 1986.
Now, galvanised Audi's of this era suffer from zero tinworm. Why should it be such a concern with Porsche? Did Porsche do a less through job or does a Porsche with a rust problem have a chequered past? We ran our Audi's to well over 200k miles in each case and bodywork maintenance was being hand washed with washing up liquid every six weeks. We never had so much as a blister. The idea of a holed sill would be alien. I just don't see why a Porsche wouldn't enjoy similar longevity!
Now, galvanised Audi's of this era suffer from zero tinworm. Why should it be such a concern with Porsche? Did Porsche do a less through job or does a Porsche with a rust problem have a chequered past? We ran our Audi's to well over 200k miles in each case and bodywork maintenance was being hand washed with washing up liquid every six weeks. We never had so much as a blister. The idea of a holed sill would be alien. I just don't see why a Porsche wouldn't enjoy similar longevity!
J4CKO said:
I suspect at a grand it would potentially break for more if it did go tits up.
Good shed but these are not very fast, used to encounter a B reg one on my commute up the A34 bypass that was always up for a (sensible) play, me in a MK2 8 valve Golf GTI with the usual bolt ons (116.5 BHP, the .5 was very important) and uprated suspension, it was not really any quicker, perhaps a bit as speeds got higher but not much.
But then, its a Porsche for a grand, the professional Porsche Logo carbo ceramic cup holder prepartion pack on a new 911 is 3 grand or something.
Just to clarify this. No the 2.5 8v isn't that fast (I used to get blown away by faster BMW 6 cylinders 328s etc not even M's) but when I were a lad at 17 I had one of these with 166k miles on the clock that was probably about the worst condition it could have been for its age at the time. A friend of mine had an IMMACULATE low mileage Mk2 8v GTi running a few tasteful mods. We were both sure it would be quicker than my 944 but we raced many times and I was just faster everywhere. I could get 2-3 car lengths from a standing start by the end of first because of the longer gears meaning he had to change into 2nd while I was right in the rev band and after that the torque of the 2.5 just pulled away easily at any speed.Good shed but these are not very fast, used to encounter a B reg one on my commute up the A34 bypass that was always up for a (sensible) play, me in a MK2 8 valve Golf GTI with the usual bolt ons (116.5 BHP, the .5 was very important
) and uprated suspension, it was not really any quicker, perhaps a bit as speeds got higher but not much.But then, its a Porsche for a grand, the professional Porsche Logo carbo ceramic cup holder prepartion pack on a new 911 is 3 grand or something.
Either there's something seriously wrong with that lux, your golf quicker than you think or the guy isn't driving that 944 properly.
Oh and besises a clutch and diff (done when the diff failed) plus a radiator which cost about £100 my 944 lux was pretty cheap to run in the 12 months I had it and I THRASHED the arse out of it! Brilliant fun on roundabouts, almost better to drift than any other 944 model because of the immediate throttle response, low grip, lighter weight and lack of understeer designed in to the later models.
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