RE: SOTW: Porsche 944
Discussion
bikemonster said:
I didn't spot any rust in the pics, and this car will have a galvanised body, so there should not be much rust to mention, should there?
ETA: It's a Porsche and it's got pop-up headlamps. That makes it a very PH shed indeed!
Maybe galvanised, the the sills on the 944 are known to rot very badly and costs a few k to fix. For this price I would almost guarantee structural rust.ETA: It's a Porsche and it's got pop-up headlamps. That makes it a very PH shed indeed!
http://completed.shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=porsc...
I'm not sure teledials are worth much. I listed a set of 4 stud Audi Ronals a few years ago and got a fiver for them.
I'm not sure teledials are worth much. I listed a set of 4 stud Audi Ronals a few years ago and got a fiver for them.
Some SOTW-relevant 80's-tastic music to help get you in the mood for the car.
Especially relevant if your name is Christina and satisfaction oozes from your pores.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGxCl4ATDHw&fea...
Especially relevant if your name is Christina and satisfaction oozes from your pores.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGxCl4ATDHw&fea...
carinaman said:
Look at the money Garlick spent getting his S2 right. I think any £1K ish 944 may well need some fettling to handle at their best?
But that's if you really want it to handle spot on. For this sort of money, people know they ain't getting a concours car. It'll still handle ok, even if not up to what it should really handle like.For that, they're better of spending £3k+ for one in the first place.
I think for the fun you may have onwing one, it's def worth a punt at a grand...
If I had the money I would buy this right now, and attempt (poorly) to run it over summer. Probably because I'm young and mad and could say I owned a Porsche at 17, think of the girls!!! Although I couldn't insure it, and at the first problem it would have to be sold. Which would be tough as I'm in Scotland 
. Shame I'm skint 
. Shame I'm skint pSyCoSiS said:
carinaman said:
Look at the money Garlick spent getting his S2 right. I think any £1K ish 944 may well need some fettling to handle at their best?
But that's if you really want it to handle spot on. For this sort of money, people know they ain't getting a concours car. It'll still handle ok, even if not up to what it should really handle like.For that, they're better of spending £3k+ for one in the first place.
I think for the fun you may have onwing one, it's def worth a punt at a grand...
At this price level you don't expect a car to be perfect, and truth be told you'd be somewhat of a fool to then try and make it perfect.
But what this price level does do, is allows someone to buy into this type of car instead of getting a 1.4 Corsa. Ok it might need a little fiddling here and there and a bit of sorting. But you can do that on a monthly basis as an when you've got the money.
It's all well enough saying buy one for x times more. But if you don't have that sort of readies its not really an option.
Cheap Porsche - you must be mad!!!! Mine cost me £900 a few years back, only bought because the girly's ex was causing me trouble over her little one going out in my highly modded Triumph Vitesse. It handled, went well, I used it for commuting, spares were cheap from Euro Car Parts and I fixed what little went wrong in the street outside my place, spent practically nothing on it in the three years I had it and there was no rot in it. Biggest drawback was it got vandalised twice because of the badge, once needing a new windscreen. Other than that rain found its way in through the sunroof eventually and ruined the interior so I sold it out of MOT and tax for about £500...cheap Maserati BiTurbo next?
I got rid of my 924S in January,lovely car,nice if a bit seoul less to drive and same running gear as this 944,unforunately my clutch was going and its a back axle out £900 job with a specialist so if thats the problem with this then its not so good.
Sticking with Capri's from now on,just as good looking,simpler and cheaper to fix!
Sticking with Capri's from now on,just as good looking,simpler and cheaper to fix!
I love these Porsches!!! I'm going through a coupe stage at the mo (audi coupe 2.6 v6 - not a lot of power but sounds great, looks butch, and getting rare) and would contemplate this shed if I had the money to sort the issues out. And that 'puddle' looks more like a square batch of newish tarmac.
A good 944 is a stonking drive. They aren't about power (if you want lots of power buy a turbo - but beware, no 944 ever had a stonking engine. Inline 4's are, well, dull), they are about delicacy of handling and balance. Learn to drive one and you'll never look at a twisty road the same way again.
£1k could be a bargain, if (as said) the sills are in reasonable nick. The lux's never suffered from tinworm as badly as the S2's/turbos, so it could be OK, but you do need to check. Pinion bearings never go on 944's, so as Jim said it'll be a CV joint, and a cheap fix. Mechanically they make old boots look like marshmallows, but a damper refresh and some new ARB bushes wouldn't go amiss to get the handling fluidity back again. Having said that, the chassis balance of a 944 hides worn suspension very well, so if you were on a true economy drive then you could just get a geo done and leave it at that.
Go in with your eyes open and this could make a very nice car for very little money.
Oli.
£1k could be a bargain, if (as said) the sills are in reasonable nick. The lux's never suffered from tinworm as badly as the S2's/turbos, so it could be OK, but you do need to check. Pinion bearings never go on 944's, so as Jim said it'll be a CV joint, and a cheap fix. Mechanically they make old boots look like marshmallows, but a damper refresh and some new ARB bushes wouldn't go amiss to get the handling fluidity back again. Having said that, the chassis balance of a 944 hides worn suspension very well, so if you were on a true economy drive then you could just get a geo done and leave it at that.
Go in with your eyes open and this could make a very nice car for very little money.
tr7v8 said:
S2 (or any 16V) & turbos have much higher running costs as well.
I'd disagree with this. The only difference between a Lux and an S2 is that S2's have cam chain issues which are cheaply avoided (change the gain often), and tricksy brakes (see my caliper rebuild thread on PCGB - total cost less than £20.) And slightly more inclination to rust. Running costs may be a smidge higher but not massively so. See my profile with detailed costs for an S2 over 5 years. Oli.
I went three ways on one 18 months ago. We stripped it out, bought cheapo FIA out of date seats, 20 quid harnesses on fleabay, and a set of GAZ shocks. I've spend another grand on parts probably in all, but what a fun car. It's not that slow once you get all the heavy sound deadening and all that out, and it makes you chuckle in every corner. Is it sacrilege to whisper that it could be more fun (though not necessarily better) than my 964 carrera 2??
And as for spares costs, I blew the engine at 150k at silverstone in March, and bought a replacement whilst still in the pits on ebay for £275! There are so many around that there are a lot of spares about...
It's such good value that you almost MAKE money on this shed purchase! This could be a sustainable business model...
And as for spares costs, I blew the engine at 150k at silverstone in March, and bought a replacement whilst still in the pits on ebay for £275! There are so many around that there are a lot of spares about...
It's such good value that you almost MAKE money on this shed purchase! This could be a sustainable business model...
pixieporsche said:
Hahaha to the person who says they don't rot - they rot from the inside out, they ALL look fairly decent from the outside! If you don't know how to propely check for rot - forget a 944!
LOL I wouldn't touch a £1000 944 with a barge pole. Sills are £1200 per side ... more than what you pay for the car! Fine if your going to run it for three months and sell it again or use it as a parts chaser.
...but if anyones under the illusion that car is going to be any good they must be mad!
Not true. Not wholly, at least. LOL I wouldn't touch a £1000 944 with a barge pole. Sills are £1200 per side ... more than what you pay for the car! Fine if your going to run it for three months and sell it again or use it as a parts chaser.
...but if anyones under the illusion that car is going to be any good they must be mad!
You're right that they rot, and that the sills are particularly bad for it, but having them done doesn't necessarily cause the car to be worth any more than it would without. My sills cost me about £1k to get sorted, and were done along with £4k worth of other work over the 2 1/2 years I owned the car. Water pump, belts, suspension arm, sills, clutch, loads of other stuff. Bought for £2.5k, spent £5k on it, sold for £650. £650 for a well sorted 944.
Admittedly, I needed rid. I had just been made redundant, needed a car with the possiblity to carry our 18 month old daughter and had nowhere to store the car. This made it an urgent sale. It was up for a month or so at £2k, and in the end I threw it up on ebay with no reserve. It reached £650.
Not saying that this one is any good, but I firmly believe that the value of mine was higher than the actual money it sold for. However, the market said otherwise.
Ephraim said:
pixieporsche said:
Hahaha to the person who says they don't rot - they rot from the inside out, they ALL look fairly decent from the outside! If you don't know how to propely check for rot - forget a 944!
LOL I wouldn't touch a £1000 944 with a barge pole. Sills are £1200 per side ... more than what you pay for the car! Fine if your going to run it for three months and sell it again or use it as a parts chaser.
...but if anyones under the illusion that car is going to be any good they must be mad!
Not true. Not wholly, at least. LOL I wouldn't touch a £1000 944 with a barge pole. Sills are £1200 per side ... more than what you pay for the car! Fine if your going to run it for three months and sell it again or use it as a parts chaser.
...but if anyones under the illusion that car is going to be any good they must be mad!
You're right that they rot, and that the sills are particularly bad for it, but having them done doesn't necessarily cause the car to be worth any more than it would without. My sills cost me about £1k to get sorted, and were done along with £4k worth of other work over the 2 1/2 years I owned the car. Water pump, belts, suspension arm, sills, clutch, loads of other stuff. Bought for £2.5k, spent £5k on it, sold for £650. £650 for a well sorted 944.
Admittedly, I needed rid. I had just been made redundant, needed a car with the possiblity to carry our 18 month old daughter and had nowhere to store the car. This made it an urgent sale. It was up for a month or so at £2k, and in the end I threw it up on ebay with no reserve. It reached £650.
Not saying that this one is any good, but I firmly believe that the value of mine was higher than the actual money it sold for. However, the market said otherwise.
.Have had two 944's, first was an S2 which I bought for £1750 and sold for £2100, second was an earlier 2.5 which was stripped for the track, I paid £950 and sold it for £450 as the engine was making some very weird and expensive sounding noises....before I managed to get near a track! I have to say that i was 'releaved' after both sales. As pointed out there are very few cheap fixes when they go wrong.
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