RE: SOTW: 1988 Ford Granada Ghia 2.9 V6

RE: SOTW: 1988 Ford Granada Ghia 2.9 V6

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Limpet

6,309 posts

161 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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grahamw48 said:
Thanks for illustrating how much the average car salesman knows about his product rolleyes
What I meant to say was they used siamese ported heads on the 2.8!

The 2.9 was of course better in terms of specification, with proper porting and next gen EFI, but was still rated at 150 PS, still drank fuel, and didn't drive much differently. The Cosworth modifications were almost entirely cylinder head focused, which gave better breathing, and higher output.

Siamesed heads or not, 2.8 or 2.9, the 12v engines were well off the pace.



Edited by Limpet on Sunday 12th June 14:52

grahamw48

9,944 posts

238 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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Limpet said:
grahamw48 said:
Thanks for illustrating how much the average car salesman knows about his product rolleyes
What I meant to say was they used siamese ported heads on the 2.8!

The 2.9 was of course better in terms of specification, with proper porting and next gen EFI, but was still rated at 150 PS, still drank fuel, and didn't drive much differently. The Cosworth modifications were almost entirely cylinder head focused, which gave better breathing, and higher output.

Siamesed heads or not, 2.8 or 2.9, the 12v engines were well off the pace.



Edited by Limpet on Sunday 12th June 14:52
Congrats on doing some internet research...bit late though. smile

Limpet

6,309 posts

161 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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Built a few of them for banger racing over the years. I didn't need to research it. But thanks anyway. :-)

When I say built, that's bit grandiose. More like patched up. But the heads aren't even interchangeable between the 2.8 and 2.9.

In any case, I'm not going to get too worked up about ancient Ford pushrod engines.

Edited by Limpet on Sunday 12th June 16:41


Edited by Limpet on Sunday 12th June 17:50

grahamw48

9,944 posts

238 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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Yes, I've been known to get my hands dirty too...even on 2.9 Fords. smile


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And 2.8s.

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Edited by grahamw48 on Sunday 12th June 17:59

LuS1fer

41,132 posts

245 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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AdeV said:
As for this 16mpg thing - that was posted by some fool who obviously just hates Fords, or who had an extremely broken one.
Yes, that's why I own two Fords. The 16mpg I posted in my father's 2.8 Scorpio could be coaxed up to 19 but this was round and about, not cruising. My 5.7 V8 Chevy LS1 did 20 round town.

OllieC

3,816 posts

214 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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LuS1fer said:
AdeV said:
As for this 16mpg thing - that was posted by some fool who obviously just hates Fords, or who had an extremely broken one.
Yes, that's why I own two Fords. The 16mpg I posted in my father's 2.8 Scorpio could be coaxed up to 19 but this was round and about, not cruising. My 5.7 V8 Chevy LS1 did 20 round town.
There was definitely something wrong with it on that basis

Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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OllieC said:
LuS1fer said:
AdeV said:
As for this 16mpg thing - that was posted by some fool who obviously just hates Fords, or who had an extremely broken one.
Yes, that's why I own two Fords. The 16mpg I posted in my father's 2.8 Scorpio could be coaxed up to 19 but this was round and about, not cruising. My 5.7 V8 Chevy LS1 did 20 round town.
There was definitely something wrong with it on that basis
My 2.8 4x4 averaged around 18-19mpg.

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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NelsonR32 said:
If I remember rightly, it was also car of the year in 1987 and was the first car to have ABS as standard.

Many have rusted away now though. Shame as they were a great car.
first car to have ABS as standard - across the range
Jenseen ff was first and then Merc S class

Diffy said:
Oh and 15mpg ?

My Dad can get 24mpg from a Mk3 Granada Scorpio 2.9 24v BOA Cosworth (194BHP) FFS!
Try 16mpg short journey from my 1999 mondeo 2.0 auto- 12mpg with a/c -OBC shows average speed of 11mph- and 22mpg on a run- and that was on a fully rebuilt run in 3000mile engine and brand new cat



blearyeyedboy

6,288 posts

179 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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My Dad got one of these as a hire car for our holiday. He drove it like a loon and upset mum.

I was maybe 6 or 7 years old and grinning from ear to ear. smile

carinaman

21,290 posts

172 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Doesn't this ancient Ford motor live on a 4 litre in the Mustang, having previously done service in the prone to rolling over on Bridgestone Explorer?

Vipers

32,876 posts

228 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Strawman said:
Does the owner know his advert is SOTW ? If not do you think he's puzzled why his Ebay ad has had nearly 1,300 views and the bidding is only at £136 ?
Whats SOTW?. Price wise, my L reg went for £400 when I traded it in around 2005, so not bad I suppose, for that price, bearing in mind it's taxed and MOT'd, you could enjoy it until the first big bill came in.

I throughly enjoyed owning my one, drives from Aberdeen to London on cruise control were a doddle, comfortable, lots of room.




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CDP

7,459 posts

254 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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AdeV said:
As for this 16mpg thing - that was posted by some fool who obviously just hates Fords, or who had an extremely broken one. The Mk3 should easily return mid-20s, so long as you don't drive it like you stole it..
Easy. I used to get 28-29 average but that was mostly dual carriageway and hardly ever in town.

Vipers

32,876 posts

228 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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CDP said:
AdeV said:
As for this 16mpg thing - that was posted by some fool who obviously just hates Fords, or who had an extremely broken one. The Mk3 should easily return mid-20s, so long as you don't drive it like you stole it..
Easy. I used to get 28-29 average but that was mostly dual carriageway and hardly ever in town.
Same here, 20 in town.




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300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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OllieC said:
LuS1fer said:
AdeV said:
As for this 16mpg thing - that was posted by some fool who obviously just hates Fords, or who had an extremely broken one.
Yes, that's why I own two Fords. The 16mpg I posted in my father's 2.8 Scorpio could be coaxed up to 19 but this was round and about, not cruising. My 5.7 V8 Chevy LS1 did 20 round town.
There was definitely something wrong with it on that basis
Why?

OllieC

3,816 posts

214 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
OllieC said:
LuS1fer said:
AdeV said:
As for this 16mpg thing - that was posted by some fool who obviously just hates Fords, or who had an extremely broken one.
Yes, that's why I own two Fords. The 16mpg I posted in my father's 2.8 Scorpio could be coaxed up to 19 but this was round and about, not cruising. My 5.7 V8 Chevy LS1 did 20 round town.
There was definitely something wrong with it on that basis
Why?
I havent owned a Scorpio, but the same engine in my Capri driven like a hooligan pretty much the whole time never went below 20 no matter what, it was around 28 -30 on a long run.]

Yes the capri is lighter (but brick shaped) and doesnt have a slushbox, but I cant believe the Grandads were *that* bad on petrol ?

Strawman

6,463 posts

207 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Vipers said:
Whats SOTW?.
Shed of the week smile

Vipers

32,876 posts

228 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Strawman said:
Vipers said:
Whats SOTW?.
Shed of the week smile
Tks




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gnm321

31 posts

269 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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This is awful and I hope my kids never read this.....but I worked for a City brokerage back in the late 1990s and we had several of these old sheds sitting in the garage all being driven by pretty obnoxious old gits. Having returned from a lunch a little too well lubricated one of the old gits made dispagraging comments so I stole down to the garage opened the back door of his Granny and proceeded to lay a human walnut whip ....i closed the door and let it fester....he never found out until after i left that it was me.....

grahamw48

9,944 posts

238 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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...And THEY were obnoxious ? rolleyes

gnm321

31 posts

269 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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i admit it was poor form......