RE: Driven: Porsche GT3 RS 4.0

RE: Driven: Porsche GT3 RS 4.0

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AV12

5,305 posts

208 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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So I take it the 4.0 flat-six will be standard on the next gen GT3RS?

Corsair7

20,911 posts

247 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Anh said:
Are you really saying this?

It's a big winged, noisy, harsh, no frills Porker which only makes sense for a high income weekend track day warrior.
you think? Last time I saw a couple of RS's at bedford they were black flagged for noise levels. Sent packing, no refund. Standard exhausts.....

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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AV12 said:
So I take it the 4.0 flat-six will be standard on the next gen GT3RS?
Sadly not - this is last incarnation of the legendary 'Metzger' engine used in the RS engined cars.

The next 991 GT3 will use a modified version of the standard lump... frown

SCR Racing

168 posts

169 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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m1980k said:
What is happening to Pistonheads. Has someone changed the tagline from 'Speed Matters' to 'Boring Cu**s Welcome'?
That is fking funny. biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

JumpinJack

404 posts

178 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Anh said:
Beefmeister said:
Perfection. Keep your 458s and MP4-12Cs, this is a real driver's car, and probably the last.

Is this the last true analogue car in an increasingly digital age? I think so...

This is a brilliant shot...
Are you really saying this?

It's a big winged, noisy, harsh, no frills Porker which only makes sense for a high income weekend track day warrior.
I really hope this is sarcastic. Otherwise, I think you need to find a sensible/boring forum.


Edited by JumpinJack on Friday 10th June 12:33

arcamalpha

1,075 posts

164 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Good article.

One day, though, the writers at Pistonheads, Autocar, Evo etc will learn that it's Mezger and not Metzger!!!

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Hands held up for that one - fact checking no use if everyone else has got it wrong too! Thanks for setting the record straight.

SCR Racing

168 posts

169 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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scampbird said:
Not sure I like the stickers, or the colour. It almost looks a bit chavvy.
Agreed. All show and no go.

trackdemon

12,193 posts

261 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Beefmeister said:
I felt the 458 was like a lighter, nimbler Nissan GTR if i'm honest. From what i've been told, the new McLaren is very similar to the 458 in the way it drives.
Gayer. You just need to go one step past 'RACE' mode and you've got all the analogue you could wish for tongue outwink

How's India mate? Getting driving withdrawal yet?

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,399 posts

240 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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SCR Racing said:
scampbird said:
Not sure I like the stickers, or the colour. It almost looks a bit chavvy.
Agreed. All show and no go.
laugh

Anh

201 posts

174 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Beefmeister said:
Actually if you read the reviews they say it's a better road car than the normal 3.8 RS.


Edited by Beefmeister on Friday 10th June 11:53
Car reviews are marketing driven and I wouldn't take notice what journo types say.

It is only a better car if you are a race privateer who needs a good platform to build on, or want a no nonsense track car you can drive from drive way to paddock - whatever happened to the humble 997 Carrera as a 'driver's car'?

TBH, it all boils down to blokes wanting something special and fooling themselves they have something honed to their so-called elevated sense of apperciation towards cars.



Anh

201 posts

174 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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JumpinJack said:
I really hope this is sarcastic. Otherwise, I think you need to find a sensible/boring forum.


Edited by JumpinJack on Friday 10th June 12:33
A car doesn't need to be expensive, bare of features, impractical, noisy and appear like a racing car to be considered interesting.

I find geezers who ponce about in the loudest/brightest/widest cars tend to be attention seekers rather than genuine car enthuasts.

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

199 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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A proper car, for people who understand driving is what that thing seems like.

If you can't find something inside you yearning for a few laps of your favourite test route or a circuit in one of these then you are probably legally dead and shouldn't be on a website like this. If you could secure a mortgage against a car I would swap my house for one in a heartbeat.

geoffracing

617 posts

175 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Ah! AT LAST a new Porsche.

Always the same old shape, sort of squashed beetle.
Sort of piggish front view, and a monstrosity rear view.
And managing to get a bit uglier each time.
Even inside always with its incomplete dials!

And everyone isn't capable of driving it.
I saw one leave the shop in Brussels, and come back a hour later on a trailer, hardly recognisable.

Also, I have never met a sympathetic Porsche driver; they are always looking at you as you were less than nothing, and yet it's only a question of money. I thought they were car-lovers, but no, they are just snooty.

Anyhow, I wrote years ago to the Porsche dealer in Brussels for a catalogue.
They didn't even answer; how could they know if I can afford the car or not?
No, they are a clan, they don't want me, and I don't want them!



anniesdad

14,589 posts

238 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Beefmeister said:
Sadly not - this is last incarnation of the legendary 'Metzger' engine used in the RS engined cars.

The next 991 GT3 will use a modified version of the standard lump... frown
My guess, dry sumped, larger capacity with PDK option. frown

It's "Mezger" by the way. wink

edited: OK read the whole thread now and can see I've been beaten to it. rolleyessmile

Dagnut

3,515 posts

193 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Article says
"spec sheet willy-waggling are your thing you still need a 911 with forced induction, the GT2 RS taking this to its most extreme conclusion."

So driving around in a road car with stickers and giant wing isn't willy waving?? It's exactly the same principal...
"look at me I have the purists machine and just to prove its not an ordinary GT3, which is 95% of the car, I've spec'd the big fk off stickers and giant wing"

We are all guilty off it.

A lot of talk of high traction cars with big bhp being boring and only about all out pace, while cars with no traction control and manual box's are for "real men, real drivers"...it all boils down to the same bullsh!t...the crap your being feed by journalists..everyone drives to their own standards and capabilities unless your a racer in which case you won't be using a road car!!..yes a lotus Elise is a more exciting car than most supercars but If you can only have one car it's a st car

adycav

7,615 posts

217 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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geoffracing said:
Ah! AT LAST a new Porsche.

Always the same old shape, sort of squashed beetle.
Sort of piggish front view, and a monstrosity rear view.
And managing to get a bit uglier each time.
Even inside always with its incomplete dials!

And everyone isn't capable of driving it.
I saw one leave the shop in Brussels, and come back a hour later on a trailer, hardly recognisable.

Also, I have never met a sympathetic Porsche driver; they are always looking at you as you were less than nothing, and yet it's only a question of money. I thought they were car-lovers, but no, they are just snooty.

Anyhow, I wrote years ago to the Porsche dealer in Brussels for a catalogue.
They didn't even answer; how could they know if I can afford the car or not?
No, they are a clan, they don't want me, and I don't want them!
Having read your rather bitter post, I'm filled with sympathy for you actually.

Rugbyman

1,625 posts

203 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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adycav said:
geoffracing said:
Ah! AT LAST a new Porsche.

Always the same old shape, sort of squashed beetle.
Sort of piggish front view, and a monstrosity rear view.
And managing to get a bit uglier each time.
Even inside always with its incomplete dials!

And everyone isn't capable of driving it.
I saw one leave the shop in Brussels, and come back a hour later on a trailer, hardly recognisable.

Also, I have never met a sympathetic Porsche driver; they are always looking at you as you were less than nothing, and yet it's only a question of money. I thought they were car-lovers, but no, they are just snooty.

Anyhow, I wrote years ago to the Porsche dealer in Brussels for a catalogue.
They didn't even answer; how could they know if I can afford the car or not?
No, they are a clan, they don't want me, and I don't want them!
Having read your rather bitter post, I'm filled with sympathy for you actually.
Indeed ...... a Porsche isnt for everyone ( thank god )

snotrag

14,464 posts

211 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Load of rubbish sometimes on this forum.

For all the people who are actually interested in cars -

Heres a couple of videos detailing some of the engineering changes made on the car and how they went about it, and why...

On track at test centre -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-fMbR0935M

Interview with Cheif Engineer by Harrismonkey -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO3usApt-x4&fea...

M666 EVO

1,124 posts

162 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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johnpeat said:
Beefmeister said:
Is this the last true analogue car in an increasingly digital age? I think so...
Cliched nonsense trotted out far too many times already - I've no idea what defines an 'analogue' or 'digital' car and neither have you.

I stopped reading car magazines to avoid this tripe, please don't make this place untidy with it as well.

Meanwhile - mandatory white paintwork and extra 200c cause existing GT3 RS owners to go "oh fk off Porsche..."
A pointless moan...