Do you by law have to slow down for horses?
Discussion
AKACrimson said:
Incedently, has anyone ever hit a horse? (with car, not fists) I would imagine it would be really nasty for all involved.
Actually, whilst getting off a horse in the lake district a couple of years ago I swung my leg backwards over the back of the horse and kicked the horse standing behind square in the face! I felt quite bad about it at the time, but the guide that was with us said that it happens all the time.doogz said:
I don't think i'm being pedantic, no, i was replying directly to this comment:
"My problem with horses is when I am driving fast around country lanes and come round the corner and meet one, and you get that "oh fk, horse!" moment as they are going soooo slow and take up most of the road, it's so dangerous"
I agree, driving fast round corners, in the countryside, when you can't see what is coming is dangerous.
But then a couple of posts later, he'd changed his mind, he's now driving safely.
I am back tracking a bit as I seem to have given you the impression that I drive like a maniac, and that's not the case. "My problem with horses is when I am driving fast around country lanes and come round the corner and meet one, and you get that "oh fk, horse!" moment as they are going soooo slow and take up most of the road, it's so dangerous"
I agree, driving fast round corners, in the countryside, when you can't see what is coming is dangerous.
But then a couple of posts later, he'd changed his mind, he's now driving safely.
I do enjoy driving fast, and windy country lanes are great for that, but in all honesty I slow right down for the bends, as much as I hate my job I'm not quite ready to die by tractor.
I don't think it necessarily matters what speed you are going at though, it's still never nice coming round the corner to be greeted by a huge horses arse. Never nice to be greeted by a horses arse in fact.
I would just be happier if horses were not allowed on the road, for once I just want to go for a Sunday drive and not have to worry about them or cyclists. I can't do much about that though so will just moan about it here, or maybe I should write a letter to my local MP. Or maybe I should actually do some work today and just let it go.
Ok, so in an attempt to clarify a few points (as I have both cars and horses):
1. Young horses need to learn to accept being on the road - think of them as learner drivers.
2. To those of you who say horses shouldn't be allowed on the road, stick to the fields etc - the roads are public, fields are private property (generally). Horses have every right to be on the roads, so long as they are safe. People don't wake up in the morning and think "Oh I know, let's go and play in the traffic today". It's a necessary evil.
3. Common courtesy and sense needs to be applied on BOTH sides. It would seem there are some inconsiderate t
ts in cars (OP?) as well as on horses (OP's "friends"). Pass as wide and as slowly as you can, but make sure the rider has spotted you first. Keep an eye on the horse as you go past and if it looks like it's starting to panic get past and out of the way as quick as you can, within reason. I was on the horse the other day when a cyclist came past from behind like a silent assassin - scared the st out of me but luckily my horse is pretty chilled. If I had been on even a pretty laid back young horse, it could have ended differently.
4. I have £3M public liability cover - most members of a riding club have this. It's not expensive and there is no excuse not to have cover.
5. If you do act like a and go roaring past, be prepared to face a "without due care and attention" charge.
6. If you do show consideration, expect a smile and wave - if not, flip them the bird.
I hope this is a fairly balanced view.
1. Young horses need to learn to accept being on the road - think of them as learner drivers.
2. To those of you who say horses shouldn't be allowed on the road, stick to the fields etc - the roads are public, fields are private property (generally). Horses have every right to be on the roads, so long as they are safe. People don't wake up in the morning and think "Oh I know, let's go and play in the traffic today". It's a necessary evil.
3. Common courtesy and sense needs to be applied on BOTH sides. It would seem there are some inconsiderate t
ts in cars (OP?) as well as on horses (OP's "friends"). Pass as wide and as slowly as you can, but make sure the rider has spotted you first. Keep an eye on the horse as you go past and if it looks like it's starting to panic get past and out of the way as quick as you can, within reason. I was on the horse the other day when a cyclist came past from behind like a silent assassin - scared the st out of me but luckily my horse is pretty chilled. If I had been on even a pretty laid back young horse, it could have ended differently.4. I have £3M public liability cover - most members of a riding club have this. It's not expensive and there is no excuse not to have cover.
5. If you do act like a
and go roaring past, be prepared to face a "without due care and attention" charge.6. If you do show consideration, expect a smile and wave - if not, flip them the bird.
I hope this is a fairly balanced view.
onesickpuppy said:
Ok, so in an attempt to clarify a few points (as I have both cars and horses):
1. Young horses need to learn to accept being on the road - think of them as learner drivers.
2. To those of you who say horses shouldn't be allowed on the road, stick to the fields etc - the roads are public, fields are private property (generally). Horses have every right to be on the roads, so long as they are safe. People don't wake up in the morning and think "Oh I know, let's go and play in the traffic today". It's a necessary evil.
3. Common courtesy and sense needs to be applied on BOTH sides. It would seem there are some inconsiderate tts in cars (OP?) as well as on horses (OP's "friends"). Pass as wide and as slowly as you can, but make sure the rider has spotted you first. Keep an eye on the horse as you go past and if it looks like it's starting to panic get past and out of the way as quick as you can, within reason. I was on the horse the other day when a cyclist came past from behind like a silent assassin - scared the st out of me but luckily my horse is pretty chilled. If I had been on even a pretty laid back young horse, it could have ended differently.
4. I have £3M public liability cover - most members of a riding club have this. It's not expensive and there is no excuse not to have cover.
5. If you do act like a and go roaring past, be prepared to face a "without due care and attention" charge.
6. If you do show consideration, expect a smile and wave - if not, flip them the bird.
I hope this is a fairly balanced view.
Yeah fully agree, good points 1. Young horses need to learn to accept being on the road - think of them as learner drivers.
2. To those of you who say horses shouldn't be allowed on the road, stick to the fields etc - the roads are public, fields are private property (generally). Horses have every right to be on the roads, so long as they are safe. People don't wake up in the morning and think "Oh I know, let's go and play in the traffic today". It's a necessary evil.
3. Common courtesy and sense needs to be applied on BOTH sides. It would seem there are some inconsiderate t
ts in cars (OP?) as well as on horses (OP's "friends"). Pass as wide and as slowly as you can, but make sure the rider has spotted you first. Keep an eye on the horse as you go past and if it looks like it's starting to panic get past and out of the way as quick as you can, within reason. I was on the horse the other day when a cyclist came past from behind like a silent assassin - scared the st out of me but luckily my horse is pretty chilled. If I had been on even a pretty laid back young horse, it could have ended differently.4. I have £3M public liability cover - most members of a riding club have this. It's not expensive and there is no excuse not to have cover.
5. If you do act like a
and go roaring past, be prepared to face a "without due care and attention" charge.6. If you do show consideration, expect a smile and wave - if not, flip them the bird.
I hope this is a fairly balanced view.
They (horses) still wouldn't be in my ideal world, but then nor would tractors, cyclists, other road users, 90% of people, work or taxes. 
lyonspride said:
onesickpuppy said:
People don't wake up in the morning and think "Oh I know, let's go and play in the traffic today". It's a necessary evil.
No but some go out with the "im better than you, you working class scum, TURN YOUR ENGINE OFF and SHOW SOME RESPECT TO YOUR GOD!!!" attitude 
ds, at least I have to work for a living, I'M NOT TURNING MY ENGINE OFF, fk YOU!" attitude.I've had horses all my life, I work for a living, I'm not rich - many of my friends are the same.
onesickpuppy said:
Yea, and some car drivers go out with the "I'm better than you stuck up toff bds, at least I have to work for a living, I'M NOT TURNING MY ENGINE OFF, fk YOU!" attitude.
I've had horses all my life, I work for a living, I'm not rich - many of my friends are the same.
Well, it's like everything really, there's both good and bad people in the world.ds, at least I have to work for a living, I'M NOT TURNING MY ENGINE OFF, fk YOU!" attitude.I've had horses all my life, I work for a living, I'm not rich - many of my friends are the same.
I think the experience that really tested my patience was a narrow country lane where I used to live, there's a riding school nearby so you expect horses. I descended a steep hill with a T junction at the bottom (the type of hill you avoid in the wet/snow), but some retard had dumped a load of mud/gravel on the road, so when I got to the bottom I briefly locked up my front wheels on this patch of gravel (bare in mind I do have ABS).
I turned right only to get a load of verbal abuse from some stupid cow on horseback some 150yrds down the road "SLOW DOWN YOU IDIOT!!!".
From this point onwards my patience was somewhat diluted.....
lyonspride said:
onesickpuppy said:
Yea, and some car drivers go out with the "I'm better than you stuck up toff bds, at least I have to work for a living, I'M NOT TURNING MY ENGINE OFF, fk YOU!" attitude.
I've had horses all my life, I work for a living, I'm not rich - many of my friends are the same.
Well, it's like everything really, there's both good and bad people in the world.ds, at least I have to work for a living, I'M NOT TURNING MY ENGINE OFF, fk YOU!" attitude.I've had horses all my life, I work for a living, I'm not rich - many of my friends are the same.
I think the experience that really tested my patience was a narrow country lane where I used to live, there's a riding school nearby so you expect horses. I descended a steep hill with a T junction at the bottom (the type of hill you avoid in the wet/snow), but some retard had dumped a load of mud/gravel on the road, so when I got to the bottom I briefly locked up my front wheels on this patch of gravel (bare in mind I do have ABS).
I turned right only to get a load of verbal abuse from some stupid cow on horseback some 150yrds down the road "SLOW DOWN YOU IDIOT!!!".
From this point onwards my patience was somewhat diluted.....
).I think it had more to do with the fact she was a woman than she was on a horse.
grumpy said:
Just remember it's never the horses fault.
Slow down to a speed that will not frighten the horse and if the rider deserves one give them a "fk off tablet".
On a lighter note, the exhaust on a mates Seven exits on the the left hand side. While following him one day we passed, very slowly a horse in a narrow lane. As the hot gasses carresed the horses legs it seemed to go into some sort of spontaneous dressage routine.
I gave the horse and rider a 10.
the Horse really did not like that. even though we slowed to around 10MPH. other side of the road as well as we could. Nothing else to do other than stopSlow down to a speed that will not frighten the horse and if the rider deserves one give them a "f
k off tablet".On a lighter note, the exhaust on a mates Seven exits on the the left hand side. While following him one day we passed, very slowly a horse in a narrow lane. As the hot gasses carresed the horses legs it seemed to go into some sort of spontaneous dressage routine.
I gave the horse and rider a 10.
onesickpuppy said:
Ok, so in an attempt to clarify a few points (as I have both cars and horses):
2. To those of you who say horses shouldn't be allowed on the road, stick to the fields etc - the roads are public, fields are private property (generally). Horses have every right to be on the roads, so long as they are safe. People don't wake up in the morning and think "Oh I know, let's go and play in the traffic today". It's a necessary evil.
I hope this is a fairly balanced view.
I agree that the roads are public but given what you have said, plus the comments of others, horses are a liability. They are unpredictable, difficult to control and require other drivers to slow to a ridiculously slow pace and cross onto the oncoming traffic side of the road to avoid upsetting them.2. To those of you who say horses shouldn't be allowed on the road, stick to the fields etc - the roads are public, fields are private property (generally). Horses have every right to be on the roads, so long as they are safe. People don't wake up in the morning and think "Oh I know, let's go and play in the traffic today". It's a necessary evil.
I hope this is a fairly balanced view.
If people want to own a horse then they should be made to locate appropriate land that is off road in order to ride on them; out of the way.
Oh, and another thing; why can they just take a s
t where they like without fear of fine or recompense? Surely a load of freshly ejected st sitting on the road is a hazard. There needs to be some regulation on these animals.Pig Skill said:
Oh, and another thing; why can they just take a st where they like without fear of fine or recompense? Surely a load of freshly ejected st sitting on the road is a hazard. There needs to be some regulation on these animals.
Now if a dog owner allows their animal to foul - it's expected that they will be responsible enough to clear it upt where they like without fear of fine or recompense? Surely a load of freshly ejected st sitting on the road is a hazard. There needs to be some regulation on these animals.Dragons den - maybe I could market an asthetic horsey owner pleasing bucket hung under the tail to collect it
Great for roses mind you if you could get them to land where the roses were........
onesickpuppy said:
I've had horses all my life,
I bet you can't repair or maintain an electric fence or a water fitting
We did that on first year YTS, but it seems to be a skill that eludes the horsey set.On said YTS I was working on a place that had horses around an about. The contractors were ploughing and some horsey birds rode past and the horses didn't like the nasty tractors in the field, so the riders asked the guys to stop what they were doing while the rode past. There was some industrial strength language used and the ploughing continued
Willy Nilly said:
onesickpuppy said:
I've had horses all my life,
I bet you can't repair or maintain an electric fence or a water fitting We did that on first year YTS, but it seems to be a skill that eludes the horsey set.On said YTS I was working on a place that had horses around an about. The contractors were ploughing and some horsey birds rode past and the horses didn't like the nasty tractors in the field, so the riders asked the guys to stop what they were doing while the rode past. There was some industrial strength language used and the ploughing continued
.onesickpuppy said:
Ok, so in an attempt to clarify a few points (as I have both cars and horses):
1. Young horses need to learn to accept being on the road - think of them as learner drivers.
2. To those of you who say horses shouldn't be allowed on the road, stick to the fields etc - the roads are public, fields are private property (generally). Horses have every right to be on the roads, so long as they are safe. People don't wake up in the morning and think "Oh I know, let's go and play in the traffic today". It's a necessary evil.
3. Common courtesy and sense needs to be applied on BOTH sides. It would seem there are some inconsiderate tts in cars (OP?) as well as on horses (OP's "friends"). Pass as wide and as slowly as you can, but make sure the rider has spotted you first. Keep an eye on the horse as you go past and if it looks like it's starting to panic get past and out of the way as quick as you can, within reason. I was on the horse the other day when a cyclist came past from behind like a silent assassin - scared the st out of me but luckily my horse is pretty chilled. If I had been on even a pretty laid back young horse, it could have ended differently.
4. I have £3M public liability cover - most members of a riding club have this. It's not expensive and there is no excuse not to have cover.
5. If you do act like a and go roaring past, be prepared to face a "without due care and attention" charge.
6. If you do show consideration, expect a smile and wave - if not, flip them the bird.
I hope this is a fairly balanced view.
very fair and balanced viewpoint - thanks1. Young horses need to learn to accept being on the road - think of them as learner drivers.
2. To those of you who say horses shouldn't be allowed on the road, stick to the fields etc - the roads are public, fields are private property (generally). Horses have every right to be on the roads, so long as they are safe. People don't wake up in the morning and think "Oh I know, let's go and play in the traffic today". It's a necessary evil.
3. Common courtesy and sense needs to be applied on BOTH sides. It would seem there are some inconsiderate t
ts in cars (OP?) as well as on horses (OP's "friends"). Pass as wide and as slowly as you can, but make sure the rider has spotted you first. Keep an eye on the horse as you go past and if it looks like it's starting to panic get past and out of the way as quick as you can, within reason. I was on the horse the other day when a cyclist came past from behind like a silent assassin - scared the st out of me but luckily my horse is pretty chilled. If I had been on even a pretty laid back young horse, it could have ended differently.4. I have £3M public liability cover - most members of a riding club have this. It's not expensive and there is no excuse not to have cover.
5. If you do act like a
and go roaring past, be prepared to face a "without due care and attention" charge.6. If you do show consideration, expect a smile and wave - if not, flip them the bird.
I hope this is a fairly balanced view.
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