RE: SOTW: Subaru Impreza Wagon

RE: SOTW: Subaru Impreza Wagon

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rodgerramjet

1,112 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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Still no one able to have a go at saying just how long this will last before it all goes pop?

marc2

109 posts

176 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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rodgerramjet said:
Still no one able to have a go at saying just how long this will last before it all goes pop?
We aint seen/heard it! how long is a piece of string? I'd guess the person who buys this will have a very short piece of string though weeping

mcelliott

8,676 posts

182 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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Here's a pic of my bug eyed version (a bit newer than the shed). 50k miles in perfect condition, and it has the prodrive kit fitted as well. As far as performance is concerned, if you put it this way, at the moment I'm driving an absolute mint E46 M3 through France and very often my thoughts turn back to the Scooby, for its mid range punch and epic sountrack.




rodgerramjet

1,112 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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That's the thing though. Everyone on here is yelling about £2k engine rebuilds etc.... But what if it lasts for 5k miles, with the engine knocking away all that time before it goes pop on the way home from work one day? You then sell some bits, weigh the rest in and get back c£300. So if you get the car for £600, then you've just spent £300 for 6 months tooling about in an Impreza Turbo, not giving a toss about car park dings, scratches, washing it, servicing it etc.

As I said, it might all end in tears, but for £650 before haggling, what do you expect? People saying "you can buy a good one for not much more...." where are they? That silver wagon could also have knocking, or rot, or be bent, you just don't know. It's also almost 50% more expensive than the green one.

Shedding is mostly a lottery.... play the game!

marc2

109 posts

176 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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rodgerramjet said:
That's the thing though. Everyone on here is yelling about £2k engine rebuilds etc.... But what if it lasts for 5k miles, with the engine knocking away all that time before it goes pop on the way home from work one day? You then sell some bits, weigh the rest in and get back c£300. So if you get the car for £600, then you've just spent £300 for 6 months tooling about in an Impreza Turbo, not giving a toss about car park dings, scratches, washing it, servicing it etc.

As I said, it might all end in tears, but for £650 before haggling, what do you expect? People saying "you can buy a good one for not much more...." where are they? That silver wagon could also have knocking, or rot, or be bent, you just don't know. It's also almost 50% more expensive than the green one.

Shedding is mostly a lottery.... play the game!
You can try to haggle on any car not just that one, you dont expect much for that money no, but of all the labour intensive problems to deal with a full engine re-build is probably as bad as it gets. If we are going down the line of tooling around for a few months rather than a longer term proposition, then I think I'd go for a tatty rusty car with a sound engine & some test- it might not seize in the outside lane of the motorway when the knocking turns into no oil pressure, still fun, still cheap, you wont be (all that) afraid to rev it a bit to extract your fun & wont have to grimace at the noise when you do, also, an engine sells for a fair sum, so when the fun comes to an inevitable end, you have a sellable motor. sweep the rest into the bin.
Thats how I would (& have) play(ed) the shed game.

wolf1

3,081 posts

251 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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Riggers said:
Can I challenge someone to find me a clean, unmolested one within Shed's budget?
Challenge accepted and won by me biggrin What do I get ?

93 WRX paid £400 for it




Edited by wolf1 on Friday 22 July 18:40

marc2

109 posts

176 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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wolf1 said:
Challenge accepted and won by me biggrin What do I get ?

93 WRX paid £400 for it

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-SUBARU-IMPREZA-TURBO-WAGON-BLUE-/180697981460?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a12706214

Not quite standard (winces at the chavtastic wheels) but forgive me that for the full mot low mileage & working engine- apparently wink

Edited for my mistake, meant to 'quote all' replying to Riggers shoddy, very shoddy-sorry!

Edited by marc2 on Friday 22 July 18:44


Edited by marc2 on Friday 22 July 18:45

decadence

502 posts

159 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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Must be one of the most manic depressive days of this sellers life:

"hey barry, av ya seen piston eds?! ya car SoTW!!!!"

Barry runs to computer like a child running to the sea!..............then cries all night.

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

227 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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Replacement long engine: £400-£600.
Replacement Gearbox: £250-£350
Replacement Diff: £50-£100.
All fluids (Engine/Gearbox/Diff/Antifreeze) £70-£100

Total outlay on all repairs £770-£1150, and a weekends work!! Subarus are not rocket science, and they're very easy to work on.

You'll get this car for £500 or less when you're talking pound notes, so total outlay c.£1200-£1600!! No brainer!!

End result is a 2000yr (not that old) practical pocket rocket back on the road and liable to do another chunk of decent mileage with proper DIY servicing. Your outlay and effort is not a lot of money when you consider how much car you're getting. The car itself looks in good condition and very presentable from the pic.

If i had the spare dosh right now i would buy it, fix it, sell it. I smell a profit in this for someone, alternatively it'll make someone a decent reliable and bloody quick little hack!!

Fill yer boots!!

rodgerramjet

1,112 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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marc2 said:
You can try to haggle on any car not just that one, you dont expect much for that money no, but of all the labour intensive problems to deal with a full engine re-build is probably as bad as it gets. If we are going down the line of tooling around for a few months rather than a longer term proposition, then I think I'd go for a tatty rusty car with a sound engine & some test- it might not seize in the outside lane of the motorway when the knocking turns into no oil pressure, still fun, still cheap, you wont be (all that) afraid to rev it a bit to extract your fun & wont have to grimace at the noise when you do, also, an engine sells for a fair sum, so when the fun comes to an inevitable end, you have a sellable motor. sweep the rest into the bin.
Thats how I would (& have) play(ed) the shed game.
I agree with everything you've said, I'd say a mechanically sound car is better for <6 months use than one than won't go! Are there many like that around for not much fundage though? I'm not arguing, I'm genuinely intrigued. The ones on ebay that start low generally go for more than £1k if they're mechanically sound but shabby round the edges.


That WRX for £400 must be the sale of the century! Was it broken underneath the shiny silverness?

5paul5

664 posts

172 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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Great cars these, shame about the engine on this one, however my current impreza was bought on the cheap with a bit of an engine knock, several hard trackdays later and it still drives perfect !

rallycross

12,810 posts

238 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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ScoobieWRX said:
Replacement long engine: £400-£600.
Replacement Gearbox: £250-£350
Replacement Diff: £50-£100.
All fluids (Engine/Gearbox/Diff/Antifreeze) £70-£100

Total outlay on all repairs £770-£1150, and a weekends work!! Subarus are not rocket science, and they're very easy to work on.

You'll get this car for £500 or less when you're talking pound notes, so total outlay c.£1200-£1600!! No brainer!!

End result is a 2000yr (not that old) practical pocket rocket back on the road and liable to do another chunk of decent mileage with proper DIY servicing. Your outlay and effort is not a lot of money when you consider how much car you're getting. The car itself looks in good condition and very presentable from the pic.

If i had the spare dosh right now i would buy it, fix it, sell it. I smell a profit in this for someone, alternatively it'll make someone a decent reliable and bloody quick little hack!!

Fill yer boots!!
Do you have a magic wand for fixing knackered impreza turbo engines?


I work in the motor trade and we recently took one of these old shape WRX impreza's in p/x with a slight knocking from the bottom end. Thinking it would be easy to fix with a 2nd hand engine (it was a very clean example and worth fixing).

After spending ages talking to various sources we found there is no cheap solution to fixing these engines unless you are a proper mechanic and can rebuild it yourself.


wolf1

3,081 posts

251 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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rodgerramjet said:
That WRX for £400 must be the sale of the century! Was it broken underneath the shiny silverness?
Blown fuse but the seller didn't know that biggrin

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

227 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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rallycross said:
ScoobieWRX said:
Replacement long engine: £400-£600.
Replacement Gearbox: £250-£350
Replacement Diff: £50-£100.
All fluids (Engine/Gearbox/Diff/Antifreeze) £70-£100

Total outlay on all repairs £770-£1150, and a weekends work!! Subarus are not rocket science, and they're very easy to work on.

You'll get this car for £500 or less when you're talking pound notes, so total outlay c.£1200-£1600!! No brainer!!

End result is a 2000yr (not that old) practical pocket rocket back on the road and liable to do another chunk of decent mileage with proper DIY servicing. Your outlay and effort is not a lot of money when you consider how much car you're getting. The car itself looks in good condition and very presentable from the pic.

If i had the spare dosh right now i would buy it, fix it, sell it. I smell a profit in this for someone, alternatively it'll make someone a decent reliable and bloody quick little hack!!

Fill yer boots!!
Do you have a magic wand for fixing knackered impreza turbo engines?


I work in the motor trade and we recently took one of these old shape WRX impreza's in p/x with a slight knocking from the bottom end. Thinking it would be easy to fix with a 2nd hand engine (it was a very clean example and worth fixing).

After spending ages talking to various sources we found there is no cheap solution to fixing these engines unless you are a proper mechanic and can rebuild it yourself.
Hence a straight forward engine swap being the cheapest and easiest solution, and it doesn't take long to swap ancilliaries over.

Then sell the old engine to someone looking for a knackered bottom end to fix up. I've done it myself with my old WRX engine which was properly knocking and knackered due to an oil pump issue. I still got £300!!

marc2

109 posts

176 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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rodgerramjet said:
I agree with everything you've said, I'd say a mechanically sound car is better for <6 months use than one than won't go! Are there many like that around for not much fundage though? I'm not arguing, I'm genuinely intrigued. The ones on ebay that start low generally go for more than £1k if they're mechanically sound but shabby round the edges.


That WRX for £400 must be the sale of the century! Was it broken underneath the shiny silverness?
Thought I would be asked to produce one when I wrote that irked so I went looking... got to be honest, I cant! best I could find was this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-SUBARU-IMPREZA-TURB... (or the silver one someone linked earlier) yes this one is very lightly modified & yes I would need a bag over my head or change the wheels, but its under shed budget full test, low miles & the engine works (ahem) so I'd pay the extra, think I have a bag, so thats free.
So I shall roll over-for the money, you win its rattly short lived fun biggrin

rodgerramjet

1,112 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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marc2 said:
Thought I would be asked to produce one when I wrote that irked so I went looking... got to be honest, I cant! best I could find was this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-SUBARU-IMPREZA-TURB... (or the silver one someone linked earlier) yes this one is very lightly modified & yes I would need a bag over my head or change the wheels, but its under shed budget full test, low miles & the engine works (ahem) so I'd pay the extra, think I have a bag, so thats free.
So I shall roll over-for the money, you win its rattly short lived fun biggrin
That blue one doesn't look all that bad in my crazy 'I'll take it, how much do you want?!!' eyes! Woth a punt, and probably more of a sound gamble than the green one in the OT I'd say smile

BTW, have some points for manning up and actually producing something, unlike all the doom merchants who harp on about a £650 shed being unreliable. Of course it is! That's why its cheap!

Edited by rodgerramjet on Friday 22 July 19:24

marc2

109 posts

176 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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rodgerramjet said:
marc2 said:
Thought I would be asked to produce one when I wrote that irked so I went looking... got to be honest, I cant! best I could find was this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-SUBARU-IMPREZA-TURB... (or the silver one someone linked earlier) yes this one is very lightly modified & yes I would need a bag over my head or change the wheels, but its under shed budget full test, low miles & the engine works (ahem) so I'd pay the extra, think I have a bag, so thats free.
So I shall roll over-for the money, you win its rattly short lived fun biggrin
That blue one doesn't look all that bad in my crazy 'I'll take it, how much do you want?!!' eyes! Woth a punt, and probably more of a sound gamble than the green one in the OT I'd say smile
Yea, suspiciously cheap at that milage some would say.... cant please some people can you! I'd like a poke around it though if it wasnt several light years from where I live frown

rodgerramjet

1,112 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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wolf1 said:
rodgerramjet said:
That WRX for £400 must be the sale of the century! Was it broken underneath the shiny silverness?
Blown fuse but the seller didn't know that biggrin
WINNER!!! biggrin

marc2

109 posts

176 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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rodgerramjet said:
marc2 said:
Thought I would be asked to produce one when I wrote that irked so I went looking... got to be honest, I cant! best I could find was this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-SUBARU-IMPREZA-TURB... (or the silver one someone linked earlier) yes this one is very lightly modified & yes I would need a bag over my head or change the wheels, but its under shed budget full test, low miles & the engine works (ahem) so I'd pay the extra, think I have a bag, so thats free.
So I shall roll over-for the money, you win its rattly short lived fun biggrin
That blue one doesn't look all that bad in my crazy 'I'll take it, how much do you want?!!' eyes! Woth a punt, and probably more of a sound gamble than the green one in the OT I'd say smile
Yea, suspiciously cheap at that milage some would say.... cant please some people can you! I'd like a poke around it though if it wasnt several light years from where I live frown

The Trig

426 posts

190 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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I love my wagon smile

I hate what the cars have become now the boyz can pick them up cheap and think they are McRae frown