Calling all unusual hot hatch owners

Calling all unusual hot hatch owners

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Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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annodomini2 said:
Renault 5 Turbo, (NOT the GT Turbo)

I'd vote for this one. Or failing that, how about it's spiritual successor; the Clio V6...?



Edited by Yiliterate on Thursday 4th August 11:49

tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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My brother is doing up a last D reg Nissan Cherry Turbo zx, and local to me is a Nissan Sunny GTi -in ultra rare 5dr spec
Also local is a Proton Satira Sprint

YesItsARover

2,721 posts

166 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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drakart said:
An MG ZR 160 van is a rare old beast! Anyone on here got one?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrive...

Edited by drakart on Wednesday 27th July 20:21
There cannot be many of them about!

Kitchski

6,516 posts

232 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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m8rky said:
Bit late,but what about the only hatch that has attempted to move on suspension technology from cart springs,the Citroen Xantia Activa.150bhp turbo with active ride suspension.

"In 1994, the Activa technology was introduced, which is an extension to the Hydractive II suspension, where two additional spheres and two hydraulic cylinders are used together with computer control to eliminate body roll completely. This technology is more broadly known as active suspension, and the Xantia Activa has exceptional road holding comparable to true sports cars. In the Swedish magazine Teknikens Värld's moose test the 1999 model of Xantia V6 Activa still holds the record speed trough the maneuver.[1]"

http://youtu.be/H3YxqjD8Rh4

On the larger side for a Hatch but a unique car with masses of tech that no other manufacturer has dared to dabble with.
As much of a fan as I am of the Activa (and I'm a BIG fan) it's no hot hatch, in the same way a Mondeo ST24 isn't a hot hatch. It's more of a touring, or GT car. Suspension is unreal though, the stuff it can do beggers belief.

m8rky

2,090 posts

160 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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Kitchski said:
m8rky said:
Bit late,but what about the only hatch that has attempted to move on suspension technology from cart springs,the Citroen Xantia Activa.150bhp turbo with active ride suspension.

"In 1994, the Activa technology was introduced, which is an extension to the Hydractive II suspension, where two additional spheres and two hydraulic cylinders are used together with computer control to eliminate body roll completely. This technology is more broadly known as active suspension, and the Xantia Activa has exceptional road holding comparable to true sports cars. In the Swedish magazine Teknikens Värld's moose test the 1999 model of Xantia V6 Activa still holds the record speed trough the maneuver.[1]"

http://youtu.be/H3YxqjD8Rh4

On the larger side for a Hatch but a unique car with masses of tech that no other manufacturer has dared to dabble with.
As much of a fan as I am of the Activa (and I'm a BIG fan) it's no hot hatch, in the same way a Mondeo ST24 isn't a hot hatch. It's more of a touring, or GT car. Suspension is unreal though, the stuff it can do beggers belief.
I will accept I was pushing the boundaries there.

tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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m8rky said:
Kitchski said:
m8rky said:
Bit late,but what about the only hatch that has attempted to move on suspension technology from cart springs,the Citroen Xantia Activa.150bhp turbo with active ride suspension.

"In 1994, the Activa technology was introduced, which is an extension to the Hydractive II suspension, where two additional spheres and two hydraulic cylinders are used together with computer control to eliminate body roll completely. This technology is more broadly known as active suspension, and the Xantia Activa has exceptional road holding comparable to true sports cars. In the Swedish magazine Teknikens Värld's moose test the 1999 model of Xantia V6 Activa still holds the record speed trough the maneuver.[1]"

http://youtu.be/H3YxqjD8Rh4

On the larger side for a Hatch but a unique car with masses of tech that no other manufacturer has dared to dabble with.
As much of a fan as I am of the Activa (and I'm a BIG fan) it's no hot hatch, in the same way a Mondeo ST24 isn't a hot hatch. It's more of a touring, or GT car. Suspension is unreal though, the stuff it can do beggers belief.
I will accept I was pushing the boundaries there.
You won't be first or last to do that.
John Simister of Evo rated Activa as best handling car ever
The BX Gti/16v is another that is not a hot hatch

FRA53R

1,077 posts

169 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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Since there's a fair few 'warm' hatches going around here how about the mk1 clio 1.8 Rsi. My mum had one and it was great, it looked standard but went like the clappers thanks to an under the ton weight and 110bhp. It was pretty rare too I honestly can't remember seeing another one whilst we had ours. Another honourable mention must go to the ph2 2.0 megane coupe. I know it's not a hatch it's a coupe but it was damn rare, all I ever saw was 1.4 and 1.6's.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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Ford Escort RS2000 4x4 ?

Kitchski

6,516 posts

232 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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tali1 said:
You won't be first or last to do that.
John Simister of Evo rated Activa as best handling car ever
The BX Gti/16v is another that is not a hot hatch
See I would argue the BX 16v (and not becuase I have one). Unless you've driven one, you'd never understand either, but the engine isn't a GT engine, it's an unrefined thrashy revvy lump. The gearing is very short, the seats are very buckety and it's very light. It's also got a naff oversized bodykit glued to it, as any proper 80's hot hatch does.

The BX GT or GTi was more of a tourer. But the 16v is deliberately hot hatch-like.

Surprises me that Simister rated it as best handling. Epic grip and roadholding yes. But Activas lack feel and feedback to the point they're not drivers cars, in my opinion. They more than make up for it in sheer ability though.

navier_stokes

948 posts

200 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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MarJay said:
130i. Hot Hatch, no one likes it except the people that own them, who adore them.
I concur... and actually potentially unusual - only ~1000 in the UK.

Here's my little beauty:



tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Kitchski said:
tali1 said:
You won't be first or last to do that.
John Simister of Evo rated Activa as best handling car ever
The BX Gti/16v is another that is not a hot hatch
See I would argue the BX 16v (and not becuase I have one). Unless you've driven one, you'd never understand either, but the engine isn't a GT engine, it's an unrefined thrashy revvy lump. The gearing is very short, the seats are very buckety and it's very light. It's also got a naff oversized bodykit glued to it, as any proper 80's hot hatch does.

The BX GT or GTi was more of a tourer. But the 16v is deliberately hot hatch-like.

Surprises me that Simister rated it as best handling. Epic grip and roadholding yes. But Activas lack feel and feedback to the point they're not drivers cars, in my opinion. They more than make up for it in sheer ability though.
Had a bx 16v - i thought engine was smooth -in fact PSA unit was rated for this as it didn't get too thrasy top end.it is unrefined and thrashy - but only bottom end -like most French cars
Also found ride very comfy.I say not hot hatch purely in terms of it's size and nothing else
Activa not driven one - but you probably right that it lacks feel /feedback

jagfan2

391 posts

178 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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denniswise9 said:
Seat Leon Cupra TDI - Worst unusual hot hatch ever for the simple fact its about as unusual as a Ford Focus.
How about a Megane DCi 175, which is rare (<400 sold in the UK), and as close to a standard diesel hot hatch as you can get, in that it hass the same kit and spec as its petrol brother , and handles really well, with a peach of an engine for a Derv

Have a Cup spec 5dr that would be a good comparison to a Leon Cupra, better than a Leon FR Tdi anyway

markoc

1,084 posts

197 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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I want one of these:



ADM06

1,077 posts

173 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Talbot Sunbeam Ti or Lotus Sunbeam?
Lancia Delta?
Clio V6?

VeeFour

3,339 posts

163 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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jagfan2 said:
How about a Megane DCi 175, which is rare (<400 sold in the UK), and as close to a standard diesel hot hatch as you can get, in that it hass the same kit and spec as its petrol brother , and handles really well, with a peach of an engine for a Derv

Have a Cup spec 5dr that would be a good comparison to a Leon Cupra, better than a Leon FR Tdi anyway
VW got there first with the MkIV Golf GT TDI and the later mark V and VI GTD.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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I think the mk ii was vw's first gtd

VeeFour

3,339 posts

163 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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sleep envy said:
I think the mk ii was vw's first gtd
Good point.

But that was when diesels were still desperately slow.

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

182 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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They did do a Mk1 GTD

/pedant

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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navier_stokes said:
MarJay said:
130i. Hot Hatch, no one likes it except the people that own them, who adore them.
I concur... and actually potentially unusual - only ~1000 in the UK.

Here's my little beauty:

I have to say I generally detest the 1 - series, on looks alone, BUT a three door one in the right spec with the right wheels (i.e. that one) is a totally different animal, extremely pleasant.

scotty28

658 posts

201 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Toyota Starlet GT Turbo/Glanza V

130bhp 1.3 turbo, only made in Japan. Mines still pretty much standard apart from exhaust, wheels, suspension and dump valve.