RE: Driven: Ginetta G40R

[The Jolly Todger]

I know the 0-60 time is totally missing the point...but 5.8 seems slow for a car with >200bhp/tonne.

[Wozy68]

The Jolly Todger said:

I know the 0-60 time is totally missing the point...but 5.8 seems slow for a car with >200bhp/tonne.

Really?
The MINI GP I used to have was around the 200bhp/tonne and its 0-60 time was around 6.3.
Anyway its immaterial 0 -100 MPH are the real figure to be interested in. Poor 0 -60 times could just be down to gear change ratios.

[anonymous-user]

The Wookie said:

The 2.0 MX5 engine basically is a Duratec isn't it?

My mistake, saw the detail in the article about the race engine being a Zetec

[Wozy68]

Wozy68 said:

The Jolly Todger said:

I know the 0-60 time is totally missing the point...but 5.8 seems slow for a car with >200bhp/tonne.

Really?
The MINI GP I used to have was around the 200bhp/tonne and its 0-60 time was around 6.3.
Anyway as you stated, its immaterial. 0 -100 MPH are the real figure to be interested in. Poor 0 -60 times could just be down to gear change ratios.

[Riggers]

Sounds like a hoot. Gutted Chris-R pulled rank on this one

Darn editor's prerogative...

[ewenm]

Riggers said:

Sounds like a hoot. Gutted Chris-R pulled rank on this one

Darn editor's prerogative...

Dammit! I was going to ask you how it compared to the Caterham.

I'm sure Fernandes and Ali are going to be watching the sales of the G40R closely.

[Gizmo!]

The Jolly Todger said:

I know the 0-60 time is totally missing the point...but 5.8 seems slow for a car with >200bhp/tonne.

The 0-60 time relies quite a lot on traction... something this light must have trouble getting the power down from 0-10mph.

[slikrs]

I've currently got just over 200bhp per tonne and I know the car can dip into the low 5's if I get the grip - else I just smoke...

I love this concept and the engine is still pretty standard so more or less bullet proof and with the added benefit that there are a host of proven induction and exhaust options whcih could be used with standard cams to score over 200bhp reliably. Or just implant the cosworth 2.3 250bhp lump or one of the more extreme units or go to Mountune etc for similar enhancements...

I can see the value of these headed North of £30K due to the limited availability.. I'm a littler tired of my GT car setup and will happily consider owning one of these and the appeal of owning a light RWD car is immense (I already have a fettled S2 106 @850kg).

Wonder how they deal with speed bumps lol...

[jimmy156]

ewenm said:

Riggers said:

Sounds like a hoot. Gutted Chris-R pulled rank on this one

Darn editor's prerogative...

Dammit! I was going to ask you how it compared to the Caterham.

0/T but did I see the Pistonheads academy Caterham at Hindhead traffic lights at 9ish on Sunday morning?

[vrooom]

i really want one of those. perfect car for everything.

[F1GTRUeno]

They do look lovely.

Nice to see someones still out there producing cars like this, wish them all the best. Seem to be doing well in GT racing as well.

[PhillipM]

Gizmo! said:

The 0-60 time relies quite a lot on traction... something this light must have trouble getting the power down from 0-10mph.

Lack of weight does not impeed traction unless you're towing something. It improves it.

[Dr G]

I approve, a lot

[Cotty]

hughcam said:

Would be a nice replacement for my VX220 in a few years time!

I can't see them depreciating that much with such a limited run each year. But yes It would be a good replacement for my Elise S2

[wildman0609]

PhillipM said:

Lack of weight does not impeed traction unless you're towing something. It improves it.

lack of weight does impeed traction.

[Riggers]

jimmy156 said:

ewenm said:

Riggers said:

Sounds like a hoot. Gutted Chris-R pulled rank on this one

Darn editor's prerogative...

Dammit! I was going to ask you how it compared to the Caterham.

0/T but did I see the Pistonheads academy Caterham at Hindhead traffic lights at 9ish on Sunday morning?

You might have done, but it wouldn't be with us any more - it's gone back to Caterham. Swines.

[slikrs]

I note some interesting optional extras - OK air-con may not be for everyone but "power upgrade" sure is as are harnesses and "Race Tuning" which I expect means a set-up session? Though I expect I'd be setting it up with potholes in mind - my Grp N tarmac Bilsteins on the 106 are magic on B roads....

Anyone have details of the 'power upgrade' option etc? More info on brake compounds (and whether it's a 2 piece disc or an MX5 disc) and clutch and tyres (other than Michelin - are they PS2?). All interesting stuff :-)

[Steve Gunnis]

You misspelled 'what' in the 2nd paragrarf.
Lovely car, put a proper engine in it (K20A would do or tune the Duratec) and I'll have one. When they've come down in price, by about £20K.

[Crow555]

Steve Gunnis said:

You misspelled 'what' in the 2nd paragrarf.
Lovely car, put a proper engine in it (K20A would do or tune the Duratec) and I'll have one. When they've come down in price, by about £20K.

So 200bhp/tonne is too expensive at £30k?

I actually think it's pretty good value.

[Gizmo!]

wildman0609 said:

PhillipM said:

Lack of weight does not impeed traction unless you're towing something. It improves it.

lack of weight does impeed traction.

I suppose, to be strictly pedantic, weight "helps" traction.