RE: Name-Games For 3-Series: BMW To Make 3 Into 4?

RE: Name-Games For 3-Series: BMW To Make 3 Into 4?

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Munich

1,071 posts

196 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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I think it will happen this time.

E21_Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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I'd be very surprised if this actually happens.

bobberz

1,832 posts

199 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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Fat chance. I couldn't see 420i being used due to a certain, um, "leisure activity" reference! hippy

Also, the 3 series nameplate is one of the longest lived, and most revered models among German car enthusiasts. Why mess with success?

In addition, in what way is a 6 series considered more "sporty" than an M5? Because it has only 2 doors? I consider the M6 more of an uber-GT, along the lines of a Bentley Continental. The M5 is the older, most pure rendition of BMW's "big" M cars.

Or would the next M5 be an "M6", and the two-door current M6 would have to be an "M8" to keep with the "sportier models will be even numbered" mantra?

Note to BMW's marketing dept.: just leave well enough alone!

E21_Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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bobberz said:
Fat chance. I couldn't see 420i being used due to a certain, um, "leisure activity" reference! hippy

Also, the 3 series nameplate is one of the longest lived, and most revered models among German car enthusiasts. Why mess with success?

In addition, in what way is a 6 series considered more "sporty" than an M5? Because it has only 2 doors? I consider the M6 more of an uber-GT, along the lines of a Bentley Continental. The M5 is the older, most pure rendition of BMW's "big" M cars.

Or would the next M5 be an "M6", and the two-door current M6 would have to be an "M8" to keep with the "sportier models will be even numbered" mantra?

Note to BMW's marketing dept.: just leave well enough alone!
Id be gobsmacked if they changed it. I suspect just stupid rumours going around are to blame.

slipstream 1985

12,221 posts

179 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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what if audi up the game and start putting in 0.5s to their model range. the a3.5 the a4.5 etc. hope they dont work that one out!

bobberz

1,832 posts

199 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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slipstream 1985 said:
what if audi up the game and start putting in 0.5s to their model range. the a3.5 the a4.5 etc. hope they dont work that one out!
Hahaha, BMW 335.5X-Drive 35si!

Pints

18,444 posts

194 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Johnboy Mac said:
I'm surprised BMW haven't used the 4 already. After all, no matter what cars get the 4 badge it offers another niche to fill, thus broading the range - just what BMW,Merc & Audi have being doing for years. BMW's marketing dept will have a field day.
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I really expected the coupé to be launched as the 4. They should just get on with it; the 3 range is already bulging with different variants in its line-up.

And while they're at it, the 1-series coupé could be the 2-series.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Surely the 'ultimate 3 series' would still be an M3, it would just refer to only the 4 door model?

I've read that the 1 series coupe and convertible are indeed to be the 2 series (or at least are being considered for that).

It makes a lot of marketing sense really, you can broaden out your range (both in models and price) by giving similar cars different names.

It also means, as with the 1 and 2 that you can go very different ways in design and technology without confusing journalists biggrin

M.

Edited by marcosgt on Saturday 6th August 08:52

E21_Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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bobberz said:
slipstream 1985 said:
what if audi up the game and start putting in 0.5s to their model range. the a3.5 the a4.5 etc. hope they dont work that one out!
Hahaha, BMW 335.5X-Drive 35si!
Don't know if you've realised but the 35si denotes the engine, so they never put 35 before the xdrive, which just means 4wd. For instance you may have a z4 sdrive 35i which means its a z4, sdrive means 2wd and 35 indicates engine. It sounds silly but it's really quite simple.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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E21_Ross said:
Don't know if you've realised but the 35si denotes the engine, so they never put 35 before the xdrive, which just means 4wd. For instance you may have a z4 sdrive 35i which means its a z4, sdrive means 2wd and 35 indicates engine. It sounds silly but it's really quite simple.
So what exactly was wrong with Z4 3.5i? Or 335xi? Pointless waste of letters for marketing purposes IMO.

will261058

1,115 posts

192 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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Not the first time this story has surfaced and probably not the last. rolleyes

bobberz

1,832 posts

199 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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E21_Ross said:
bobberz said:
slipstream 1985 said:
what if audi up the game and start putting in 0.5s to their model range. the a3.5 the a4.5 etc. hope they dont work that one out!
Hahaha, BMW 335.5X-Drive 35si!
Don't know if you've realised but the 35si denotes the engine, so they never put 35 before the xdrive, which just means 4wd. For instance you may have a z4 sdrive 35i which means its a z4, sdrive means 2wd and 35 indicates engine. It sounds silly but it's really quite simple.
Yeah, guess I was getting my 3 series and Z4 nomenclature mixed up. Either way, BM have seriously made their naming system needlessly complex. I think they had it right with the e36 or e46 generation. Even Mercedes' naming system makes more sense, regardless of the fact that the E63 AMG was actually slightly less than 6.2L and now only 5.5L.

Bob_Defly

3,679 posts

231 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Can't wait to see the first 316 with an M4 badge!

laugh

E21_Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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bobberz said:
Yeah, guess I was getting my 3 series and Z4 nomenclature mixed up. Either way, BM have seriously made their naming system needlessly complex. I think they had it right with the e36 or e46 generation. Even Mercedes' naming system makes more sense, regardless of the fact that the E63 AMG was actually slightly less than 6.2L and now only 5.5L.
agree. although way back when, many many moons ago they made a 745i which was only a 3.4; a 316 which was a 1.8, a 535i which was a 3.4....the list goes on. the only single reason people find it "complex" though (IMO) is because it has s-drive or x-drive. and these (as far as i'm aware) are only present on the Z4 or X models, so it's not THAT bad. the 3/5/6/7 all still make relative sense IMO.