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smartypants
17,383 posts
38 months
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Peloton25 said: I'm fairly certain that of the 106 that were built in total, including GTRs, LMs and GTs, that we've lost a total of 6. XP1 - first prototype, crashed and burned in the Namibian desert during development testing XP2 - MIRA crash test car, later crushed - 004 or #005 - crashed by a mechanic in Brunei, salvaged for parts only according to sources
- 010 - crashed by Bernd Pischetsrieder, then President of BMW and "written off"
- 017 - crashed by Christopher Dawes on a rain slicked road in Essex. He and his two passengers perished in the ensuing fire
- 033 - crashed by it's German owner on the Autobahn. He chose not to have McLaren repair the car and instead ordered a new one.
There are a lot of others that have been crashed, even a few multiple times like this one, but as far as I know the rest have been repaired leaving us with 100 total F1s in existence today. >8^) ER Just to put the record straight I lived near the #017 one at the time, and that stretch of road wasn't rain soaked and it was straight uphill. He was driving like a t  t, and not many people mourned his death. A horrible man by all accounts, who was awaiting drug charges and escaped a rape charge. Just in case there was some sympathy.. the McLaren did us a favour on that one  ETA: Having now googled the incident, maybe my memory is fading, seems rain did play a part. Even so the rest I stand by
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carmarthenf1
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24 months
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pb
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28 months
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Zad said: Not my photo either. I picked it up off another forum, where the person who posted it got it off their friends facebook.
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so called
3,505 posts
78 months
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smartypants said: Peloton25 said: I'm fairly certain that of the 106 that were built in total, including GTRs, LMs and GTs, that we've lost a total of 6. XP1 - first prototype, crashed and burned in the Namibian desert during development testing XP2 - MIRA crash test car, later crushed - 004 or #005 - crashed by a mechanic in Brunei, salvaged for parts only according to sources
- 010 - crashed by Bernd Pischetsrieder, then President of BMW and "written off"
- 017 - crashed by Christopher Dawes on a rain slicked road in Essex. He and his two passengers perished in the ensuing fire
- 033 - crashed by it's German owner on the Autobahn. He chose not to have McLaren repair the car and instead ordered a new one.
There are a lot of others that have been crashed, even a few multiple times like this one, but as far as I know the rest have been repaired leaving us with 100 total F1s in existence today. >8^) ER Just to put the record straight I lived near the #017 one at the time, and that stretch of road wasn't rain soaked and it was straight uphill. He was driving like a t t, and not many people mourned his death. A horrible man by all accounts, who was awaiting drug charges and escaped a rape charge. Just in case there was some sympathy.. the McLaren did us a favour on that one ETA: Having now googled the incident, maybe my memory is fading, seems rain did play a part. Even so the rest I stand by I seem to remember that it was reported that he crashed at high speed deliberately, taking his two passengers with him.
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Drclarke
617 posts
42 months
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so called said: I seem to remember that it was reported that he crashed at high speed deliberately, taking his two passengers with him. How would anyone know that?
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ewolg
1,073 posts
148 months
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Jimmyarm said: Hope he is ok, one of the all time tv greats.
Always thought he was the type to be a secret PH'er.. Ditto
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Pork
7,829 posts
103 months
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On the news that Rowan Atkinson is in hospital, but not serious. Hurt his shoulder and should be out today.
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robsco
5,316 posts
45 months
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An irreplacable car and an irreplacable person. At least we didn't lose both.
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wackojacko
8,462 posts
59 months
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Hopefully the Composite chassis has done it's job, although all forces will be relayed straight to the driver with such a strong and stiff chassis.
As already said McLaren will be able to rebuild that with relative ease.
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minimatt1967
14,520 posts
75 months
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Hope Mr Atkinson is OK. That will be Woking bound then.
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Peloton25
577 posts
107 months
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smartypants said: Just to put the record straight I lived near the #017 one at the time, and that stretch of road wasn't rain soaked and it was straight uphill. He was driving like a t t, and not many people mourned his death. A horrible man by all accounts, who was awaiting drug charges and escaped a rape charge. Just in case there was some sympathy.. the McLaren did us a favour on that one ETA: Having now googled the incident, maybe my memory is fading, seems rain did play a part. Even so the rest I stand by Yes, I knew that half of the story as well but usually leave it out when mentioning that crash. Regardless of how it happened or the other things going on in his life at the time his two passengers were likely very innocent victims in all of it. I have some news video footage of them hauling away the wreckage and other than one magnesium wheel that was partially burned there wasn't much left that would allow anyone to identify the car as an F1. A real shame for anyone to lose their life like that.  >8^) ER
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Hugo a Gogo
15,150 posts
102 months
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so is the F1 officially the most crashed production car ever, as a percentage of those produced?
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camshafted
334 posts
34 months
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pb said: Zad said: Not my photo either. I picked it up off another forum, where the person who posted it got it off their friends facebook. Which forum was it on? I'd love to track down the original snapper.
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smartypants
17,383 posts
38 months
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Peloton25 said: Yes, I knew that half of the story as well but usually leave it out when mentioning that crash. Regardless of how it happened or the other things going on in his life at the time his two passengers were likely very innocent victims in all of it. I have some news video footage of them hauling away the wreckage and other than one magnesium wheel that was partially burned there wasn't much left that would allow anyone to identify the car as an F1. A real shame for anyone to lose their life like that. >8^) ER Yep fair point well made, I know nothing of the passengers. Sorry story all round... not least for the loss of a McLaren
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y2blade
46,296 posts
84 months
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I'm glad he is ok
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ZOLLAR
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42 months
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camshafted said: Which forum was it on? I'd love to track down the original snapper. I wonder why 
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camshafted
334 posts
34 months
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ZOLLAR said: I wonder why I'm asking at least 
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pb
939 posts
28 months
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camshafted said: Which forum was it on? I'd love to track down the original snapper. http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?340133-Someone-cant-drive-in-the-rain&p=6565783&viewfull=1#post6565783
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y2blade
46,296 posts
84 months
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why are people saying "one less Mclaren" ?
it'll be repaired and back on the road I'm sure
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camshafted
334 posts
34 months
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pb said: camshafted said: Which forum was it on? I'd love to track down the original snapper. http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?340133-Someone-cant-drive-in-the-rain&p=6565783&viewfull=1#post6565783 Thank you
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