RE: Spotted: '04 Koenigsegg CC8S
Discussion
It's lovely, but how monumentally frustrating would it be to drive a car like this on public roads? As someone who has recently splashed out on my "dream car" - a certain curvaceous early 70s Ferrari - my overwhelming impression of the fast car experience is of coming back from a drive riling at draconian speed limits, congestion, traffic lights, cyclists, and anything generally that causes me to lift my right foot unnecessarily. I would suggest this frustration element is the reason most supercars are used so rarely... and I'm starting to think about setting mine up for road rallies.
Unless you lived next door to the Nurburgring I honestly can't imagine how anyone could justify buying something like this. If you have that sort of money, better off getting a proper racing car, like some sort of Can Am monster, *and* a Bentley for road duties.
Unless you lived next door to the Nurburgring I honestly can't imagine how anyone could justify buying something like this. If you have that sort of money, better off getting a proper racing car, like some sort of Can Am monster, *and* a Bentley for road duties.
fwaggie said:
Like the car but, my, those alloys are fugly!
Also re. all these mega expensive hyper cars, half of me thinks "Fools and their money are easily parted", and the other half is glad to see people who have earned this much money, spending it rather than sticking it under the mattress and being a rich Scrooge.
Personally I'd have a 458 and a nice yacht for that money, but if I already had them and still had $50m in the bank and was bored (how the hell do people who earn that much have any time to drive and enjoy the cars? Suppose that answers 4.4k miles in 8 years)
If you could afford to have a 458 and a "nice yacht" (anyone who thinks supercar running costs are high hasn't seen how much it costs to run and maintain a big yacht!), I'd imagine it wouldn't be a stretch to own the 'Egg as well.Also re. all these mega expensive hyper cars, half of me thinks "Fools and their money are easily parted", and the other half is glad to see people who have earned this much money, spending it rather than sticking it under the mattress and being a rich Scrooge.
Personally I'd have a 458 and a nice yacht for that money, but if I already had them and still had $50m in the bank and was bored (how the hell do people who earn that much have any time to drive and enjoy the cars? Suppose that answers 4.4k miles in 8 years)
Personally, the CC8 and CCR just always looked much nicer to me than the Veyron, and with Veyrons being ~2million, this seems like a bargain.
99% as quick as a Veyron, better looking, less expensive, and far, far rarer!
V8Dom said:
marcosgt said:
Buy a used F1 car or a dragster if you just want stupid speed (around corners or in a straight line, respectively) and save yourself a fortune!
M.
Or buy an Ultima for £50k and still have Hyper performance along with a spare 200kM.
Dom
The CC8 is a proper supercar (I don't see a point in the term "hypercar").
Don't get me wrong, Ultimas are amazing cars, and probably the best performance for your money (barring sport bikes), but a factory built, mega power supercar is just so much more appealing.
Out of interest, if you were in the market for a £250,000 supercar, what would you get? I think I'd probably have an F40 over the 'egg, but this makes for an interesting wildcard:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3085972.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3085972.htm
You won't get change out of 400k for a non-cat/non-adjust F40 in good condition.
Personally I'd buy an XJ220 and have it fettled by Don Law - the Jag/F40 were my poster cars. Have met both of them and they're immense and are the only cars that genuinely make me have that amazing child-like wonder you're forever trying to recapture...
Personally I'd buy an XJ220 and have it fettled by Don Law - the Jag/F40 were my poster cars. Have met both of them and they're immense and are the only cars that genuinely make me have that amazing child-like wonder you're forever trying to recapture...
bobberz said:
And you'd still have a kit car.
The CC8 is a proper supercar (I don't see a point in the term "hypercar").
So a "proper supercar" (to quote Martin Brundle from that video) feels like a rough, unfinished (one might say pre-production) supercar?The CC8 is a proper supercar (I don't see a point in the term "hypercar").
Where did it come? 8th was it? LOL!
fwaggie said:
bobberz said:
And you'd still have a kit car.
The CC8 is a proper supercar (I don't see a point in the term "hypercar").
So a "proper supercar" (to quote Martin Brundle from that video) feels like a rough, unfinished (one might say pre-production) supercar?The CC8 is a proper supercar (I don't see a point in the term "hypercar").
Where did it come? 8th was it? LOL!
fwaggie said:
So a "proper supercar" (to quote Martin Brundle from that video) feels like a rough, unfinished (one might say pre-production) supercar?
Where did it come? 8th was it? LOL!
Jason Plato doesn't like Caterhams. When you're a racing driver you spend all day in something completely stripped of comforts to perform a task, to be used as a tool. Road cars are great because they're for making journeys in, going places, exciting you with how they look, sound, feel. It's subjective at the end of the day, ranking things is pointless.Where did it come? 8th was it? LOL!
I know of people who wouldn't touch a Corvette ZR-1 with a bargepole and would never think it's a supercar; personally, I think they're fantastic. Horses, courses, all that malarkey.
j_s14a said:
Actually, it seems like ludicrous money when you can buy a newer Merc/Mclaren SLR for under £150k!
But when you buy into a Mercedes SLR you are sharing the brand with rusty old estates, third world mini cabs, builders vans and riff raff. Not quite in the same ball park of exclusivity as true hypercars.Plus the SLR has a huge cock on the bonnet.
Yes there is a wide spectrum of exotics that are out there for this kind of money. While it was amazing in 2004 I don't think time has been so kind to it I am so/so on the looks and if I were going to spend that money on a car I'd want it to be a keeper and something that would at least not lose value as this car surely will
iandc said:
Now in the PH Classifieds at £279,950 at Supervettura. Quite an uplift from the price in this article!!!
Hi iandc,As mentioned in my earlier post the article was based on an incorrect link. I am not sure who the advertising company were and what they thought they were doing but the car was not for sale with them and certainly not available for the figure they mentioned. You should now find that all the adverts they were running have now ceased.
I do still think that the main reason for the article being an incredible amount of car for the money remains true. This car represents super value especially given it is now the last remaining right drive CC8s and one of the few remaining original Koenigsegg cars produced. I am sure it will be snapped up by a keen collector or shrewd investor any moment.
Thanks to everyone for their kind comments on Koenigsegg it is nice to hear of the support for what is a quite exciting brand.
Tom
Tommy Wareham
Director
SuperVettura Sales Ltd.
www.SuperVettura.com
LongLiveTazio said:
fwaggie said:
So a "proper supercar" (to quote Martin Brundle from that video) feels like a rough, unfinished (one might say pre-production) supercar?
Where did it come? 8th was it? LOL!
Jason Plato doesn't like Caterhams. When you're a racing driver you spend all day in something completely stripped of comforts to perform a task, to be used as a tool. Road cars are great because they're for making journeys in, going places, exciting you with how they look, sound, feel. It's subjective at the end of the day, ranking things is pointless.Where did it come? 8th was it? LOL!
I know of people who wouldn't touch a Corvette ZR-1 with a bargepole and would never think it's a supercar; personally, I think they're fantastic. Horses, courses, all that malarkey.
MBs comments about all the cars interiors seem to come from someone who appreciates a nice luxury interior that is also properly functional, I don't think he's the kind of person who'd "coo" over something that's all form above function, nor does he seem to be someone who's that used to race cars that a 1980 Fiesta is a luxury
So when he said this interior was "unfinished" I did get the impression he thought it was "kit car" like in finish (and maybe fit).
Yep it's all subjective of course, but he's got more money than I'll ever have and I've no doubt owns a few of those cars!
Have you actually seen one in real life though? The interiors are immaculately finished. Features such as Tempur being integrated into the carbon seat are things of genius. Everything is beautifully machined and ergonomically sound, just like the best Swedish design. It's one of the few supercars whereby it's understandable who designed it and why it is like it is. I know it's all subjective but I totally 'get it' as a concept. In terms of quality that is IMO something more objective. You can say that Audi interiors are dull, for example, but you couldn't accuse them of not being well finished. I'm not a fan of Pagani interiors, too flashy for my tastes, but no doubting it's incredibly well done for what it is.
k-ink said:
What's an extra £40k commission amongst friends 
Yes I wish... Please do not forget that unlike other specialist dealers as Koenigsegg UK we would perform a full Koenigsegg Service, supply the car with a 12 Month Koenigsegg Warranty at some £30k cost, ensure the car was 100% perfect with regards paintwork and interior and perform any necessary and recommended factory upgrades. Resulting in a very sorted Koenigsegg and still at an exceptional price.
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