RE: Spotted: '04 Koenigsegg CC8S
Discussion
j_s14a said:
It's a good looking beastie, but when you start looking at the details, it seems little more than an Ultima in a posh frock. Ie; generic tacky kit car rear lights, generic tacky kit car switches/buttons, generic tacky kit car fuel filler, stack dash etc etc
You could build a 1000hp Ultima using a crate engine for almost 1/3rd of the cost of this (though I'm sure 500-600hp would more than suffice in one of those) and end up with a similar, though quicker, product.
Well you could, but Ultimas have probably the worst interiors of any road car and they're a kit car. So you're not really comparing apples with apples.You could build a 1000hp Ultima using a crate engine for almost 1/3rd of the cost of this (though I'm sure 500-600hp would more than suffice in one of those) and end up with a similar, though quicker, product.
British Beef said:
Rental rates??
Excess mileage would be a little on the expensive side then....
I think it was £3000 a day and around 100 miles, but I could be wrong on the miles, think the £3000 is pretty accurate. There's a PHer who knows the history of this car very well, so he can correct me if he sees it. Rio Prestige was the hire company if anyone is interested.Excess mileage would be a little on the expensive side then....
Lovely car when I've seen in the flesh, and the sill is massive to climb over. Very comfortable once in though.
marcosgt said:
Was the 4,400 mile 'overhaul' for a power upgrade?
If not, what's the effing point of a hypercar that can't go that far between rebuilds??????
I have to say I agree. If that was not for the power upgrade, which surley it was, then that's totally unacceptable for a car costing that much.If not, what's the effing point of a hypercar that can't go that far between rebuilds??????
I like it, but I reckon you'd have to have won that £160m lotto win to run it, for a while!
Koenigseggs are actually more of the "opposite" in hypercars to Pagani and Spyker (at least the earlier ones). Great performance, but understated. The Zonda and Spyker are much more flamboyant. So it makes sense for the interior to be understated. It's really nice when inside one, and I actually prefer the simplicity (although i would have a Zonda due to the exterior looks and noise if I had the choice).
Nors said:
I have to say I agree. If that was not for the power upgrade, which surley it was, then that's totally unacceptable for a car costing that much.
I like it, but I reckon you'd have to have won that £160m lotto win to run it, for a while!
Could also be a result of being the hire car.I like it, but I reckon you'd have to have won that £160m lotto win to run it, for a while!
Every discussion on Koenigseggs inevitably leads onto mention of them being unreliable, and this seems to be the thing that sets them apart from the inflated pricing and perceived desirability of the Zonda. But where's the evidence for this? What's so wrong with the cars when - as far as I'm concerned - there's pretty much everything to like? If nothing else, Koenigseggs have what's got to be the smartest coupe / roadster setup in existence - a panel that easily comes off and fits inside the car, because it was always designed that way! Contrast this with the stupid, after the fact arrangements applied to the Zonda, Veyron, Murcielago roadster etc - in most if not all cases, their roofs have to be left at home, no?
I'd love a Zonda or a Veyron, but somehow emotionally the Koenigsegg has always remained my ultimate dream car. I will accept that the Agera has started to get away from the classical purity of the original CC8S / CCR / CCX design, but it still looks amazing.
I'd love a Zonda or a Veyron, but somehow emotionally the Koenigsegg has always remained my ultimate dream car. I will accept that the Agera has started to get away from the classical purity of the original CC8S / CCR / CCX design, but it still looks amazing.
Did anyone see the Koenigsegg Megafactories on TV?
These cars are definitely a bit more special than an Ultima. None of the buttons or internal parts are plastic, or so they said, which was rather nice to see such attention to details.
Totally hand built, even lots of the smaller CF parts are formed/baked in their factory.
Very interesting car. More so than the Pagani stuff imo... which has gone rather tacky recently. That said, the Agera has lost some of the purity of appearance vs the CC8S.
I'd buy it if I had a spare bit of cash.
Dave
These cars are definitely a bit more special than an Ultima. None of the buttons or internal parts are plastic, or so they said, which was rather nice to see such attention to details.
Totally hand built, even lots of the smaller CF parts are formed/baked in their factory.
Very interesting car. More so than the Pagani stuff imo... which has gone rather tacky recently. That said, the Agera has lost some of the purity of appearance vs the CC8S.
I'd buy it if I had a spare bit of cash.
Dave
Hi Chaps,
The article above is actually incorrectly linked this car is with us and for sale exclusively by us the official appointed agents for Koenigsegg. www.SuperVettura.com
It is a beautiful example of an early Koenigsegg and has as some of the comments have mentioned above the most incredible mileage for a car of its year. I have looked after the Koenigsegg brand in the UK now for some 5 years and even today the cars performance and engineering blows my mind.
When you compare just the exclusivity and performance alone of a Koenigsegg it is just the tip of the ice berg with regards to its "bang for bucks"...
I have known this car from its first owner and it really has been incredibly well looked after and cared for, hire car or not it is really irrelevant when talking of this individual vehicle. I would not even need half the fingers on one of my hands to count the amount of times the car was hired out and as you can see from the Koenigsegg factory bills mentioned the hire firm was certainly not shy of spending money to maintain and upgrade the vehicle.
On a further point there is the big rumour about these cars being unreliable, I would really like to clear this up. In all my time with Koenigsegg I have only ever had to recover one car from the side of the road, I have completed thousands of miles in Koenigsegg's all of them I have made without any trouble. The biggest mechanical problem with the Koenigsegg are the batteries which drain very easily and quickly. Most cars are used infrequently and not put on the factory supplied trickle charger as you should and are instructed to do so on delivery, therefore when the owner comes to use the car after some time the car will not start just like any other car left to go flat! The batteries are in an awkward place and are expensive to buy therefore when this happens the cost of repair is high around £1000, generally after the first time the owners tend to keep the car on charge when not in use. The new Agera solves this issue with a different type of battery which cannot die, these can also be retro-fitted to older Koenigsegg models.
Mechanically I cannot think of any major problems we have had and the cars are only seen when they come in each year for the annual service, which also to be fair is not outrageous the last car we serviced was around £6000 which for a 250mph car of this rarity seems pretty sensible. What is a Bugatti to service now, double that?
If anyone is looking for something that is just that step above a Murcielago or big Supercar with regards exclusivity and performance then for not silly money the Koenigsegg is the car for them.
Rarity, Hand built, and so much Performance all for sub £300k!
Happy to answer any question on this or any other Koenigsegg...
Many thanks,
Tom
Tommy Wareham
Director
SuperVettura Sales Ltd.
www.SuperVettura.com
The article above is actually incorrectly linked this car is with us and for sale exclusively by us the official appointed agents for Koenigsegg. www.SuperVettura.com
It is a beautiful example of an early Koenigsegg and has as some of the comments have mentioned above the most incredible mileage for a car of its year. I have looked after the Koenigsegg brand in the UK now for some 5 years and even today the cars performance and engineering blows my mind.
When you compare just the exclusivity and performance alone of a Koenigsegg it is just the tip of the ice berg with regards to its "bang for bucks"...
I have known this car from its first owner and it really has been incredibly well looked after and cared for, hire car or not it is really irrelevant when talking of this individual vehicle. I would not even need half the fingers on one of my hands to count the amount of times the car was hired out and as you can see from the Koenigsegg factory bills mentioned the hire firm was certainly not shy of spending money to maintain and upgrade the vehicle.
On a further point there is the big rumour about these cars being unreliable, I would really like to clear this up. In all my time with Koenigsegg I have only ever had to recover one car from the side of the road, I have completed thousands of miles in Koenigsegg's all of them I have made without any trouble. The biggest mechanical problem with the Koenigsegg are the batteries which drain very easily and quickly. Most cars are used infrequently and not put on the factory supplied trickle charger as you should and are instructed to do so on delivery, therefore when the owner comes to use the car after some time the car will not start just like any other car left to go flat! The batteries are in an awkward place and are expensive to buy therefore when this happens the cost of repair is high around £1000, generally after the first time the owners tend to keep the car on charge when not in use. The new Agera solves this issue with a different type of battery which cannot die, these can also be retro-fitted to older Koenigsegg models.
Mechanically I cannot think of any major problems we have had and the cars are only seen when they come in each year for the annual service, which also to be fair is not outrageous the last car we serviced was around £6000 which for a 250mph car of this rarity seems pretty sensible. What is a Bugatti to service now, double that?
If anyone is looking for something that is just that step above a Murcielago or big Supercar with regards exclusivity and performance then for not silly money the Koenigsegg is the car for them.
Rarity, Hand built, and so much Performance all for sub £300k!
Happy to answer any question on this or any other Koenigsegg...
Many thanks,
Tom
Tommy Wareham
Director
SuperVettura Sales Ltd.
www.SuperVettura.com
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