RE: Bentley SUV To Inherit 'Lightweight' Platform
Discussion
thinfourth2 said:
kambites said:
thinfourth2 said:
yeah but they normally choose a 20 year old volvo/subaru/defender with straw in the boot
Well yes, but that might be because there wasn't really another option. I wasn't suggesting that they would dispense with the straw. 
kambites said:
Well obviously this will be too ostentatious. I was thinking more of a more luxurious mk1 Range Rover type car in the 60s or 70s.
Still not very practical for day to day use . . . .you'll bugger up that nice carpet and seating in a week or two, with lab's jumping in and out, moving hay, fishing and shooting tackle all over it and the resultant dead animals / fish rotting on the carpet when the owner forgets to take them out(many years ago, upon opening the boot of my father’s then 4.2LSE, was greeted by the site of a 10-12lb cock salmon that was a week or so old, starting to melt into the boot carpet! )Older land rovers with hose out cabs and removable mats are far better for “huntin n’ fishin”
To be honest, I think Bentley are firmly out of the old-money-with-taste market now. I think the Queen only uses hers because she feels a duty to them. I can't wait to see what happens when Kahn get their hands on one...
PH said:
But weight loss is key to efficiency, and the next Q7 is set to lose up to 300kg (or about the weight of two very large fellows)
I think you mean Powerfully Built fellows?PhilboSE said:
Any car can be offensive. However, for those of us who regularly haul around a large family with luggage something like the Q7 is mandated. And if someone would like a more luxurious interior than a standard Audi, why shouldn't there be something available for us? When I was shopping for my 7-seater I bemoaned the fact that the premium manufacturers were missing a trick by not catering for that segment.
What ever did people use before large SUVs were around?? OMG people must have bought second hand double decker buses?Anyways, if you put a diesel in, you can take the word luxurious out. Regardless of the badge on the cam cover, if it rattles and bangs it ain't luxury!
gumsie said:
What ever did people use before large SUVs were around?? OMG people must have bought second hand double decker buses?
Anyways, if you put a diesel in, you can take the word luxurious out. Regardless of the badge on the cam cover, if it rattles and bangs it ain't luxury!
Are you really this ignorant or do you work at it?Anyways, if you put a diesel in, you can take the word luxurious out. Regardless of the badge on the cam cover, if it rattles and bangs it ain't luxury!
They used normal cars and stuck 4 children across the back bench, or there were Mercs and Volvos with tiny flimsy cushions masquerading as seats in the boot.
However, wake up and smell the coffee, it's 2011 and you have to strap every child into a big plastic cocoon, stick them on booster seats, and so on. And we're a bit more aware now about the consequences of children sitting not so much in the crumple zone as in the bit of the car that disintegrates in the event of a rear end shunt.
As for your comments about diesel, you must really have no clue about what works in a large car and modern diesels in general.
RichB said:
Rudeness aside Philbo, you must have one hell of a lot of children to equire that megalith of a people carrier. Most people do indeed manage with a normal car!
Yep. Enough children such that to comply with the legal requirements around child safety seats, I *need* a 7-seater. Used to have an A6 Avant to do the family load lugging job but the final extra sprog was beyond it.Yes, it's a big car but when we use it, it's fully loaded and all seats are in use - thereby making it more efficient by any metric compared with, say, a Focus with just the driver in it. We use smaller cars when we don't need the full capacity of the behemoth. It also makes a great tow vehicle - much better than the old A6 I had.
And despite other posters comments, last winter pretty much the old things moving round my way were Defenders and my Q7 with snow tyres.
So, ultimately, yes the Q7 is a big car but everyone I know who has one has either a large family (possibly including a dependent older generation as well as a younger one). None of them is a gold toother gangsta rapper or has Kahned their car to tasteless death.
PhilboSE said:
Are you really this ignorant or do you work at it?
They used normal cars and stuck 4 children across the back bench, or there were Mercs and Volvos with tiny flimsy cushions masquerading as seats in the boot.
However, wake up and smell the coffee, it's 2011 and you have to strap every child into a big plastic cocoon, stick them on booster seats, and so on. And we're a bit more aware now about the consequences of children sitting not so much in the crumple zone as in the bit of the car that disintegrates in the event of a rear end shunt.
As for your comments about diesel, you must really have no clue about what works in a large car and modern diesels in general.
Face it, you love gas guzzling overblown SUVs. A lighter, (than that ludicrous 2270Kg kerb weight for the cheap variant), cheaper less flashy MPV will do the same job regarding children.They used normal cars and stuck 4 children across the back bench, or there were Mercs and Volvos with tiny flimsy cushions masquerading as seats in the boot.
However, wake up and smell the coffee, it's 2011 and you have to strap every child into a big plastic cocoon, stick them on booster seats, and so on. And we're a bit more aware now about the consequences of children sitting not so much in the crumple zone as in the bit of the car that disintegrates in the event of a rear end shunt.
As for your comments about diesel, you must really have no clue about what works in a large car and modern diesels in general.
As for diesels. If you think that that you can apply the word luxury to one then you are hard of hearing or in denial or both. If you want luxury you get a smooth quiet multi cylinder petrol, (in addition to the leather seats and niceties). NOT a deezl. Lets be real, the only reason diesels work is due to the turbo charging. That's why they work in a large car but so would a turbo petrol.
I had a large modern car dufus and a 2011 diesel. N, V and H are all still living large, except todays engines are nvh as opposed to NVH.
As for before SUVs like the Q7, the Espace came out in 1984. The current one at least, scored quite well for occupant protection, (even better than the Q7 I think).
Edited by gumsie on Sunday 14th August 13:17
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