RE: Spotted: E60 BMW M5
Discussion
Zod said:
bern said:
Just what I thought!
Is the new M5 really going to cost £100k?
ETA: Just specced the most expensive one I can figure out and it came to £91875. The single most expensive option was £5445 of Merino Leather...
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Edited by CraigyMc on Tuesday 23 August 14:02
Luca Brasi said:
Lovely cars. Last true M5. Although the new one will probably be even better and looks better, I'd still have an E60, just for that wonderful V10.
"The last true M5" This gets stated with every evolution.The E34 was the last proper "handbuilt" M5
The E39 was the last proper "manual" M5
The E60 will be the last proper "NA" M5
I suspect this latest version will be the last proper "RWD" M5
To be followed by the last proper "human driven" M5.....
I am also one of those people who is stuck in my ways of preferring cars of yester year, and not really falling for modern, faster, efficient, heavier, compuer driven evolutions.
My problem with M cars, was that the badge used to be a guarantee of a great drivers car. However since they started slapping it on SUVs and the like, my admiration for the M brand has reduced somewhat, as it seems more of a marketing tool to shift more 520d's with the M sport bodykit than a true sign of making the ultimate drivers car.
The SUVs should never have been launched. I don't object to the M Sport versions of the normal cars. Indeed, I own one. They are designed in part to bring people towards buying an M car, according to M Division. My own reason for owning one, as a veteran M car owner, is that it looks better.
British Beef said:
Luca Brasi said:
Lovely cars. Last true M5. Although the new one will probably be even better and looks better, I'd still have an E60, just for that wonderful V10.
"The last true M5" This gets stated with every evolution.The E34 was the last proper "handbuilt" M5
The E39 was the last proper "manual" M5
The E60 will be the last proper "NA" M5
I suspect this latest version will be the last proper "RWD" M5
To be followed by the last proper "human driven" M5.....
I am also one of those people who is stuck in my ways of preferring cars of yester year, and not really falling for modern, faster, efficient, heavier, compuer driven evolutions.
My problem with M cars, was that the badge used to be a guarantee of a great drivers car. However since they started slapping it on SUVs and the like, my admiration for the M brand has reduced somewhat, as it seems more of a marketing tool to shift more 520d's with the M sport bodykit than a true sign of making the ultimate drivers car.
I never really got the E60 style but I would grab an E60 M5 with both hands. My pick would be an E39 but any of them would do!
My problem with M cars, was that the badge used to be a guarantee of a great drivers car. However since they started slapping it on SUVs and the like, my admiration for the M brand has reduced somewhat, as it seems more of a marketing tool to shift more 520d's with the M sport bodykit than a true sign of making the ultimate drivers car.
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I disagree mate cars maybe more computer generated and heavier but there def getting faster and everythings going turbo, easier to mod, what about the new bmw m1 does that deserve an M badge?, at least their not going Hybrid power yet lol
adamasbo69 said:
I disagree, mate. Cars maybe more computer generated and heavier, but they're definitely getting faster and everything's going turbo (easier to mod). What about the new BMW M1? Does that deserve an M badge? At least they're not going hybrid power yet, lol!
Put into English for you. No Charge. 
God I love these cars.
I do think the M1 is a return to form, but would anyone say it has moved the game on from the E46 M3? I definately dont think so (if looks, sound, cost, performance and practicality are anything to base the decision on).
The current M3 if specd as a convertible weighs as much as the E39 M5, yet has a little more top end power and a less torque acros the rev range. Is this evolution? I dont think so.
As for the M X6 and X5, I think it is an embarassment to the brand that they cite turbocharging as the "green future" of IC engines, and then dump them in a completely overwieght, pointless and totally none environmentally friendly piece of turd that manages sub 10mpg (driven with spirit).
The argument that turbos are a good thing for tuning, is BS. It is a bloody good thing if you own a main dealer, as the cost and frequency of repairs will certainly increase with turbocharged engines (and automated gearboxes).
Im jumping off the soap box now ;-)
The current M3 if specd as a convertible weighs as much as the E39 M5, yet has a little more top end power and a less torque acros the rev range. Is this evolution? I dont think so.
As for the M X6 and X5, I think it is an embarassment to the brand that they cite turbocharging as the "green future" of IC engines, and then dump them in a completely overwieght, pointless and totally none environmentally friendly piece of turd that manages sub 10mpg (driven with spirit).
The argument that turbos are a good thing for tuning, is BS. It is a bloody good thing if you own a main dealer, as the cost and frequency of repairs will certainly increase with turbocharged engines (and automated gearboxes).
Im jumping off the soap box now ;-)
I love my M5 soooooooooooo much it hurts!! Its so f'king quick I can't imagine ever needing anything faster.
The US market got a 6 speed manual in place of the smg for the E60. Don't know if its economical to retro fit.
And to the guys complaining about people less well heeled being able to afford cars like this.....seriously listen to yourselves. That attitude is patronising and very 'middle England'; do you read the Daily Mail by any chance? So what if people you don't like buy cars that you do? That is the beauty of depreciation.
I enjoy chatting cars with people who like cars, I don't care what their bank balance says, where they grew up, what clothes they wear or what accent they have.
The US market got a 6 speed manual in place of the smg for the E60. Don't know if its economical to retro fit.
And to the guys complaining about people less well heeled being able to afford cars like this.....seriously listen to yourselves. That attitude is patronising and very 'middle England'; do you read the Daily Mail by any chance? So what if people you don't like buy cars that you do? That is the beauty of depreciation.
I enjoy chatting cars with people who like cars, I don't care what their bank balance says, where they grew up, what clothes they wear or what accent they have.
CraigyMc said:
johnnybegood said:
I got the price to £92,500
Perhaps I missed something or chose a less expensive option somewhere. The point remains that it's not even possible to spec a new M5 to £100K....which makes the Panamera Turbo S look very expensive indeed.
C
Very poor and lazy piece of journalism....
British Beef said:
I do think the M1 is a return to form, but would anyone say it has moved the game on from the E46 M3? I definately dont think so (if looks, sound, cost, performance and practicality are anything to base the decision on).
The current M3 if specd as a convertible weighs as much as the E39 M5, yet has a little more top end power and a less torque acros the rev range. Is this evolution? I dont think so.
As for the M X6 and X5, I think it is an embarassment to the brand that they cite turbocharging as the "green future" of IC engines, and then dump them in a completely overwieght, pointless and totally none environmentally friendly piece of turd that manages sub 10mpg (driven with spirit).
The argument that turbos are a good thing for tuning, is BS. It is a bloody good thing if you own a main dealer, as the cost and frequency of repairs will certainly increase with turbocharged engines (and automated gearboxes).
Im jumping off the soap box now ;-)
The 1m (not m1) isn't meant to be evolution of the e46 m3, that's the e92 m3s job. The 1m is cheaper (consider inflation and its quite considerable), is faster and more economical so it has moved forwards. It offers better than cayman s performance for cheaper, with back seats too. The current m3 is faster than the old m3, to say that they haven't moved forwards from a technical and performance point of view is just wrong. The current M3 if specd as a convertible weighs as much as the E39 M5, yet has a little more top end power and a less torque acros the rev range. Is this evolution? I dont think so.
As for the M X6 and X5, I think it is an embarassment to the brand that they cite turbocharging as the "green future" of IC engines, and then dump them in a completely overwieght, pointless and totally none environmentally friendly piece of turd that manages sub 10mpg (driven with spirit).
The argument that turbos are a good thing for tuning, is BS. It is a bloody good thing if you own a main dealer, as the cost and frequency of repairs will certainly increase with turbocharged engines (and automated gearboxes).
Im jumping off the soap box now ;-)
SWoll said:
CraigyMc said:
johnnybegood said:
I got the price to £92,500
Perhaps I missed something or chose a less expensive option somewhere. The point remains that it's not even possible to spec a new M5 to £100K....which makes the Panamera Turbo S look very expensive indeed.
C
Very poor and lazy piece of journalism....
CraigyMc said:
silversixx said:
I can't see anyone claiming that the new M5 will cost £100,000...
The frikkin' article said:
Best of all, with a sticker price of £49,850 it's approximately half the cost of the new F10...and that's before the new model has been formally released.
silversixx said:
CraigyMc said:
silversixx said:
I can't see anyone claiming that the new M5 will cost £100,000...
The frikkin' article said:
Best of all, with a sticker price of £49,850 it's approximately half the cost of the new F10...and that's before the new model has been formally released.
Can you see someone claiming that the new M5 will cost £100K now?
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