RE: SOTW: BMW M5

[GeeTeaEye]

Shed of the decade?

It has to be the Honda Accord Type R for me!

[Rusty-C]

martynr said:

pSyCoSiS said:

Shed of the Decade.

No doubt.

So true.

Shed of shedding, IMO.

[Garlick]

Rusty-C said:

Shed of shedding, IMO.

No, that's your car. The true meaning of shed (not the favourable version)

[Johnboy Mac]

GeeTeaEye said:

Shed of the decade?

It has to be the Honda Accord Type R for me!

Fair comment.

[johnpeat]

rallycross said:

Would have been worth it to put the running gear in a nice rust free 635/628 csi shell and sell the rest of it off.

Because the running gear won't be a problem but the bodywork is, of course, going to burst into flames...

[johnpeat]

thewheelman said:

Not even close to the Jag from last week.

That.

Fantastic car which almost no-one really found fault with - hit EVERY aspect of shedding perfectly and with money to spare from the budget!!

The Accord Type-R was almost not a shed at all - it's just not quite 'sheddy' enough - it's more ricey, some idiot would probably still buy wheels and wings for it etc.

[johnpeat]

theironduke said:

Any 928's for this money?

Never gonna happen - they hit rock-bottom in the high £3Ks and are on the rise again... Given that they were never really replaced, nor ever popular enough to make them common, this isn't surprising really.

The best sheds are cars which were popular (so there's load of them and loads of parts available) but which were also superceded (which depresses values and demand).

Hence Jags, 7 Series, Mercs - the cars the manufacturers just cannot help themselves updating every 20 mins.

[Hugh stinquer]

In life we waste stupid amounts on stuff, beer, wimen,...but mainly on lost cause cars.
Buy it cheap fix a few things ,then fall in love with the bloody thing and end up spending a fortune going to a 'specialist' who has the software etc to fix it.
Theres no known cure available, if you,ve got an itch you've just got to scratch it!

[dbdb]

I prefer last weeks Jag, but the M5 is a fabulous car. This is one for the brave though, but providing its not too rusty and the buyer has some mechanical skills it is quite an opportunity.

[TheEnd]

martynr said:

pSyCoSiS said:

Shed of the Decade.

No doubt.

So true.

Yep.

This is going to be a legend.

[billzeebub]

I think that is a shed too far for me..

[johnpeat]

Need to remind people that this is a shed thing - not a 'restore' thing and not even a 'fixer upper' thing.

As someone else put it - better than I ever could - it's a "managed retreat" situation, you drive it, ignoring stuff which doesn't work but doesn't affect the car's usefulness, until something breaks which DOES affect it's usefulness - when you scrap it.

Buying a car which needs a clutch - even if the parts included - is not shedding, really - you're starting on the wrong foot entirely

[Tango13]

J4CKO said:

olly22n said:

T16OLE said:

J4CKO said:

Look at the price of old Escorts as a case in point, a 2 lb tub of genuine MK1 Escort rust goes for seven to ten grand, manky old Sierra Cosworths go for silly money, Integrales are 20k plus and this is a genuine M5 for a grand.

Really good point there

Is it?

Escort Mk1&2 - Competition Pedigree
Sierra Cosworth - Competition Pedigree
Integrale - Competition Pedigree
M5 - ?
E30 M3 - Competition Pedigree

Of course, I buy all my road cars based on whether someone raced them in the dim and distant past, I sort of agree in part but the fact that an accomplished road car was not generally used on track doesnt mean it isnt any good, I would wager that as a road car this is faster and better than all those mentioned, MK1 Escort 1.1 Populars go for silly money but I dont ever remember anyone racing them, the Lotus Carlton I never remember seeing on track and its from the same Era as this and goes for a lot of money (and rising).

It isnt like this is some oddball think like the Audi V8 that few people have heard of, its an M5, perhaps its because the E34 still has a whiff of "Council Estate Don" about it, saw a 535 yesterday looking mildly tragic driven by some old fella, not quite a classic, still just old but once the last few old snotters are off the road it will have its day I think.

I remember seeing a Lotus Carlton on track in Thundercars/saloons or something similar and it had trouble outrunning a Escort Cosworth due to having far more BHP than it could use.

If I had the time and money i'd have bought this shed and dropped the engine and gearbox into a 635 for sts and giggles.

[BMWill]

If i were in the UK i'd seriously consider buying this, despite all it's issues.

It's the last of the hand built M cars. That alone should be enough to tempt a lot of people... Hand built German fast saloon for a grand? Enough said!
Also the last BMW of that particular styling. Always thought the 80s BMWs have a certain 'evil' look to them that you just don't get on newer cars..

[Rusty-C]

Garlick said:

No, that's your car. The true meaning of shed (not the favourable version)

Mine is more like a PVC conservatory
with a leather suite.

[will261058]

Munter said:

I remember a friend buying one of those for ~£3k a few years ago. Apart from:

Duff shocks
Broken speedo
bent suspension arm
2 oil leaks on the engine
a random sensor I forget which

and Birds asking for £6k to fix it all.

It was a great buy!...ummm

Seems a lot for the work needed unless it was one of the late models with the Nurburgring suspension, which is very expensive to renew though I believe you can get the shocks reconditioned these days for a good bit less than new ones!

[rallycross]

johnpeat said:

rallycross said:

Would have been worth it to put the running gear in a nice rust free 635/628 csi shell and sell the rest of it off.

Because the running gear won't be a problem but the bodywork is, of course, going to burst into flames...

Nope that's not what I meant.
I meant a 24v 635'is currently £10k plus this would have been a cheap way to build one.
The M5' was worth much more than people seem to realise, probably £3k+.
I sold my H Reg 3.5' M5' for £5k.

[Slurms]

will261058 said:

Munter said:

I remember a friend buying one of those for ~£3k a few years ago. Apart from:

Duff shocks
Broken speedo
bent suspension arm
2 oil leaks on the engine
a random sensor I forget which

and Birds asking for £6k to fix it all.

It was a great buy!...ummm

Seems a lot for the work needed unless it was one of the late models with the Nurburgring suspension, which is very expensive to renew though I believe you can get the shocks reconditioned these days for a good bit less than new ones!

Nope, it was one of the very early 3.6 5-speed models... It was just in need of a total suspension overhaul and replacement. Though I believe Birds quote was for OEM parts so might have been cheaper going for some third party bits.

[s m]

J4CKO said:

Look at the price of old Escorts as a case in point, a 2 lb tub of genuine MK1 Escort rust goes for seven to ten grand, manky old Sierra Cosworths go for silly money, Integrales are 20k plus and this is a genuine M5 for a grand.

Supply and demand really - if enough people really wanted E34 M5s the price would go up - there's obviously something that doesn't appeal to the majority of enthusiasts making them cheap cars. Maybe enough people didn't sample them new to support a big fan base? Great cars I'm sure but I'd have a Lotus Carlton at twice the price every single time over any out of production M5 so far.

I'm sure E34 M5s will rise steadily in price though

[B'stard Child]

Tango13 said:

J4CKO said:

olly22n said:

T16OLE said:

J4CKO said:

Look at the price of old Escorts as a case in point, a 2 lb tub of genuine MK1 Escort rust goes for seven to ten grand, manky old Sierra Cosworths go for silly money, Integrales are 20k plus and this is a genuine M5 for a grand.

Really good point there

Is it?

Escort Mk1&2 - Competition Pedigree
Sierra Cosworth - Competition Pedigree
Integrale - Competition Pedigree
M5 - ?
E30 M3 - Competition Pedigree

Of course, I buy all my road cars based on whether someone raced them in the dim and distant past, I sort of agree in part but the fact that an accomplished road car was not generally used on track doesnt mean it isnt any good, I would wager that as a road car this is faster and better than all those mentioned, MK1 Escort 1.1 Populars go for silly money but I dont ever remember anyone racing them, the Lotus Carlton I never remember seeing on track and its from the same Era as this and goes for a lot of money (and rising).

I remember seeing a Lotus Carlton on track in Thundercars/saloons or something similar and it had trouble outrunning a Escort Cosworth due to having far more BHP than it could use.

Your memory needs a little help

This Carlton ran in Thundersaloons and it wasn't powered by a 3.6 straight six with two turbos





It had a V8 (american origin)