Frontera up Snowdon

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Big Rod

6,200 posts

217 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Another proponent for Frontera's here.

Mine was very capable, as tough as old boots and with the exception of one electrical fault and an inlet manifold gasket needing replaced it never let me down in three years. It handled towing duties as though there was nothing on the back of it too which can be a bit alarming when you forget you're towing a car transporter and look in the rear view mirror!!

ecain63

10,588 posts

176 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Pah! Anyone who has been up Snowdon will know that the Pig Track would be a doddle for any half decent 4x4. I reckon, had it not been for the Bilstein suspension on my RS6 i could have got that up there on a good day. I'd love to have seen it abandoned on Crib Goch though, thats something worth thinking about. Actually, theres an idea.............

PoseidonCorps

7 posts

168 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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One word...

AIRLIFT

Thats the only way that would get there!

Altrezia

8,517 posts

212 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Why the outcry? I don't understand (and this is from an 'idiot' standpoint, not argumentative) why it would be an offence? Surely it's just the same as driving accross common-ground, but this one has a mountain in it?

Leptons

5,114 posts

177 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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PoseidonCorps said:
One word...

AIRLIFT

Thats the only way that would get there!
Odd given that everyone else is confident it could just drive there. I don't see why not along the train tracks.

Gizmo!

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18,150 posts

210 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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PoseidonCorps said:
One word...

AIRLIFT

Thats the only way that would get there!
Tim! Post more!

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

256 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Altrezia said:
Why the outcry? I don't understand (and this is from an 'idiot' standpoint, not argumentative) why it would be an offence? Surely it's just the same as driving accross common-ground, but this one has a mountain in it?
No idea why there seems to be a kerfuffle about the whole thing.

MartG

20,689 posts

205 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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ChiChoAndy said:
5paul5 said:
ChiChoAndy said:
Why would a Vauxhall struggle to get up there, over anything else? confused
Because they are crap smile
Ah... Well, having owned the Isuzu variant, I can tell you that they aren't. Got me through plenty of themAdirondack national park without as much as a hiccup. Pulled a few other more 'reputable' Marques out along the way as well. Strong rear diff, good stock clearance, decent, simple, reliable engines, fully boxed frames, decent enough transfer box stock, (I lowered mine by 50% however), and so on.

Nowt worse than blanket statements, and I see neither of you have actually owned one...
Owned five of them ( 2 x 2.4, 1 x 2.0, 2 x 3.2 ) and fully concur as to their reliability and capabilities - no problems in snow/mud etc. even when loaded full of diving gear, fine towing a RIB or my trackday car

Eggman

1,253 posts

212 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Judging by the second picture, I suspect it has either bent a trackrod or broken the trackrod end. I'd have thought that should drive down ok after an hour or two of mending.

jayfish

6,795 posts

204 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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MartG said:
Owned five of them ( 2 x 2.4, 1 x 2.0, 2 x 3.2 ) and fully concur as to their reliability and capabilities - no problems in snow/mud etc. even when loaded full of diving gear, fine towing a RIB or my trackday car
One wonders how you got through 5 of them then... wink

MartG

20,689 posts

205 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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jayfish said:
MartG said:
Owned five of them ( 2 x 2.4, 1 x 2.0, 2 x 3.2 ) and fully concur as to their reliability and capabilities - no problems in snow/mud etc. even when loaded full of diving gear, fine towing a RIB or my trackday car
One wonders how you got through 5 of them then... wink
First 4 were swapped when my ( ex ) wife wanted a change - the last one I've now had for nearly 7 years and still going strong

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Altrezia said:
Why the outcry? I don't understand (and this is from an 'idiot' standpoint, not argumentative) why it would be an offence? Surely it's just the same as driving accross common-ground, but this one has a mountain in it?
Judging by the video, the only people complaining were the stereotypical sour-faced ramblers. Everyone else just walked around it as if it was natural that a car would be parked right next to a train track. I did like how their whinging about how seeing a car has ruined their day had to stop to let a train rumble past.

ARAF

20,759 posts

224 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Gizmo!

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18,150 posts

210 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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EDLT said:
Altrezia said:
Why the outcry? I don't understand (and this is from an 'idiot' standpoint, not argumentative) why it would be an offence? Surely it's just the same as driving accross common-ground, but this one has a mountain in it?
Judging by the video, the only people complaining were the stereotypical sour-faced ramblers. Everyone else just walked around it as if it was natural that a car would be parked right next to a train track. I did like how their whinging about how seeing a car has ruined their day had to stop to let a train rumble past.
Why the hell would you walk up a hill that has a train to the top anyway?

I can understand why you'd walk to the top of a mountain. But if there's a train, take the train.

Haribo Man

85 posts

157 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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I presume that none of them went up there whilst the new cafe was being built. The amount of plant up there then must have really upset the red sock brigade!

Like it has been said a fairly competant driver shouldn't have too much trouble getting up there. I imagine that driving on the railway would be the offence, not too sure regarding the Llanberis path as it is a right of way although if moutain bikers agree to a curfew for certain months then it is only fair that those in a 4x4 do!

Plus i'd like to see someone descend Snowdon on a MTB in 7 mins!!! That is roughly a 42 mph average by my calculation

Angry Sheep

1,120 posts

211 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Gizmo! said:
Why the hell would you walk up a hill that has a train to the top anyway?

I can understand why you'd walk to the top of a mountain. But if there's a train, take the train.
At £25 for a return ticket, I'd rather walk. Or take the car...

Haribo Man

85 posts

157 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Agreed Angry Sheep (suitable name for this thread)!

I dragged the missus up Snowdon last September, she hated every minuite of it and stated that there was no way she was walking back down. We had a brew and she toddled off to see how much the train would cost - we ended walking back down! smile

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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skwdenyer said:
jmorgan said:
Last thing it needs is people getting idea's to do this.
Plenty of people have had the idea to do this, myself included. I wouldn't want to do it in the dead of night, however, just because it would rather defeat the object of being able to see the view!

Out of interest, what would the offence be for the chap who did this?
Been found and charged I think. Thing is, when it breaks or falls off someone has to pick up the pieces. The places is superb, I hope the copy cats don't give it a go.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

158 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Haribo Man said:
Like it has been said a fairly competant driver shouldn't have too much trouble getting up there. I imagine that driving on the railway would be the offence, not too sure regarding the Llanberis path as it is a right of way although if moutain bikers agree to a curfew for certain months then it is only fair that those in a 4x4 do!
Might be a right of way, but it's not a vehicular right of way (RUPP or BOAT).

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Excellent someone doing something illegal providing more amunition for the ramblers to get perfectly legal green laning completely banned.