RE: Spotted: 1990 Alpina B12 750i

RE: Spotted: 1990 Alpina B12 750i

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thewheelman

2,194 posts

174 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Gad-Westy said:
Caulkhead said:
1990 retro?

Am I the only one on here over 25?

Actually, don't answer that. frown
Ha ha, I sometimes think the same. I'm 'only' 30 but I remember cars like this when they were new. It's hard to think of them as retro or classic but they're all 20+ years old and therefore the ones still going are almost certainly in the hands of enthusiasts.
I'm 34, & still class this as modern(ish), far too new to be classed as retro.

LHD

17,001 posts

188 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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hornetrider said:
Leptons said:
'FULLRUN' Tyres, nice!
Good spot! That is very disappointing.
They are a bugger to get in that size now.

Perhaps that was all they could get to fit.

thewheelman

2,194 posts

174 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Less money, but i'd take this over the BMW anyday...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3065569.htm

Edited by thewheelman on Monday 5th September 13:15

thewheelman

2,194 posts

174 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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I wonder how it'd drive compared to a similar sized & powered saloon of this era? Although i think near £12k is rather high, it's far more interesting than modern BMW's. For similar money you could buy a very tidy VXR8, if you wanted a big, fast saloon.

MichelV

133 posts

153 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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g3org3y said:
How long before such cars are made illegal? frown

Speak to the regular person on the street and mention that you have an engine >2.0 litres and they'll have you down as an oil spilling, seal clubbing, bunny killing environment hater.
I only club the unwashed unnecessary green left wingers to death. Shame the fur on them does not seem to last long.

Michel

Chunkychucky

5,965 posts

170 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Nice car, though it never ceases to amaze how much 4Star Classics charge for their kit..

900T-R

20,404 posts

258 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Johnboy Mac said:
Save Ferris said:
Imagine if BMW had mass produced this engine......



and if ALPINA had got hold of it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Goldfish_V16
Good stuff, never knew that it existed. It must have been a peach of a engine.
Looks like a recipe for terminal understeer, though... hehe

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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LHD said:
hornetrider said:
Leptons said:
'FULLRUN' Tyres, nice!
Good spot! That is very disappointing.
They are a bugger to get in that size now.

Perhaps that was all they could get to fit.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the reason.


errek72

943 posts

247 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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I don't 'get' the attraction this car seems to have. At least not as a weekend or fun car. I thought it was great when it came out, as the ultimate family power saloon, banker car or eatern european maffia staff car. But what fun would this car be to hoon in? It's made to eat great distances on the autobahn, so unless you have an aunt in Berlin and have fear of flying there are more fun things out there surely?

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

179 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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errek72 said:
I don't 'get' the attraction this car seems to have. At least not as a weekend or fun car. I thought it was great when it came out, as the ultimate family power saloon, banker car or eatern european maffia staff car. But what fun would this car be to hoon in? It's made to eat great distances on the autobahn, so unless you have an aunt in Berlin and have fear of flying there are more fun things out there surely?
I bet your an Alfa owner? wink

LHD

17,001 posts

188 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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hornetrider said:
LHD said:
hornetrider said:
Leptons said:
'FULLRUN' Tyres, nice!
Good spot! That is very disappointing.
They are a bugger to get in that size now.

Perhaps that was all they could get to fit.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the reason.

hehe

Quite.

jamespink

1,218 posts

205 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Zwoelf said:
That B11 is the car linked to in the article - and a very different kettle of fish. It's also been for sale here at that price since God was in short trousers. That said, the featured B12 has been around a fair while yet whilst a couple of others have come and gone in the wider market place.

I've been to see that car and it is in very good condition indeed and the guys down at 4 Star Classics are a pleasure to meet, genuine enthusiasts and run an impressive operation down there. No I have no affiliation to them beyond an unhealthy obsession with old BMWs and they do have a very fine selection of them, and some very appealing other things too.

The ALPINA Register only seems to have data for UK ALPINAs post 1993, so E32 B11s and B12s are not featured. As a guideline though, in the following generation of UK RHD E38 B12s, there were 8 5.7 saloons (all SWB) and 7 6.0 saloons (1 of which was a LWB) and a single B12 5.7 Coupé in 1995 (based on the E31 Eight Series). I know of a few other E32 B12s in this country at present (2 RHD, one LHD) and they mostly seem to change hands between around half a dozen individuals along with the E38s - it's a very small world when it comes to these cars.

As such, it's a very special thing to a few people, fewer still with both the means and inclination to add it to the stable - good luck to whomever does and I hope you're a PHer. biggrin


Be brave, spend the money and express yourself about the country in a car that had perfectionist German engineers (given a free hand) behind it. Its like is unavailable today...

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

223 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Are those even Alpina wheels?

When did Alpina start hiding the tyre valve in the center of the rim?

Gad-Westy

14,571 posts

214 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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ZeeTacoe said:
Are those even Alpina wheels?

When did Alpina start hiding the tyre valve in the center of the rim?
I think they probably are genuine. My wheels are the same on a similar vintage car. I don't know when they changed to centre valves though.

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

207 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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jamespink said:
Zwoelf said:
As such, it's a very special thing to a few people, fewer still with both the means and inclination to add it to the stable - good luck to whomever does and I hope you're a PHer. biggrin
Be brave, spend the money and express yourself about the country in a car that had perfectionist German engineers (given a free hand) behind it. Its like is unavailable today...
Alas, I have every inclination, but lack the means - but I make do well enough with having owned E32 750s for a couple of years now at a fraction of the buy-in price. My first one is currently for sale (not by me, I sold it over a year ago) in the PH Classifieds currently: http://pistonheads.com/sales/3179629.htm

If you think the B12 above looks expensive for what it is, then take a look at this one: http://pistonheads.com/sales/2952407.htm



£25k (and no I haven't missed out the decimal point). Nice towbar.

ZeeTacoe said:
Are those even Alpina wheels?

When did Alpina start hiding the tyre valve in the center of the rim?
In around 1996 when that style of wheel was replaced by the "Softline" style with the centre valve and one hollow spoke that I think was launched on the E39 B10s, then the E38 B12 and the E36 B3 changed from the older style to the newer one - I think when it went from being a B3 3.0 to a B3 3.2, but aren't perfectly sure.

The wheels on the above E32 are correct for BMWs of the E30/31/32/34 era and later E24s and 28s.

Beardy10

23,269 posts

176 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Is there nothing better to write about ? This car has been for sale for absolutely ages. There must literally be hundreds of equally newsworthy cars for sale.

I assume someone at PH Towers owed 4 Star Classics a favour.....


Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

184 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Did any have a proper gearbox or were all the owners disabled?

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

207 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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They've also had a couple of features in BMW Car magazine for a few months now, so it's not just PH. They're a newish company establishing themselves as a predominantly classic BMW specialist in a marketplace against well established competition, so it's to be expected they'll garner a bit of coverage in the specialist media - of which PH is a part, lest we forget.

Garlick

40,601 posts

241 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Beardy10 said:
Is there nothing better to write about ? This car has been for sale for absolutely ages. There must literally be hundreds of equally newsworthy cars for sale.

I assume someone at PH Towers owed 4 Star Classics a favour.....
We have only just noticed it in the classifieds, sorry if we are a bit out of date frown

All 'spotted' stories (a regular article) come from the PH classifieds (trade and private sales) and as such we will feature dealer cars quite regularly as content. No money changes hands though, we just choose cars we like.

I suspect that as they brand their sales cars so heavily the dealer name is more noticeable.

Previous articles:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

etc......

the_hood

771 posts

195 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Free plug for 4 Star Cars!