Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

[shakotan]

mwstewart said:

Liquid Knight said:

Before eBay removed the listing I sent a screen grab to the Essex Police Facebook page.

Why? My understanding is that selling a V5 and tags is not actually illegal, though the DVLA are within their rights to register as "scrapped" any V5's they see for sale without a vehicle.

I thought it only becomes illegal when you try to put the ID onto another vehicle?

The V5C and associated VRM belongs to the DVLA. It's merely 'rented' from the DVLA when the vehicle is registered. It is illegal to sell both the document and associated ID that it applies to. Once a vehicle loses its ID due to modification, scrapping or breaking for parts, the V5C must be returned to the DVLA.

[Liquid Knight]

mwstewart said:

Liquid Knight said:

So D773 PVW can be placed on the ANPR system so if a vehicle with that number plate goes past a camera or car fitted with ANPR the driver can be stopped and checked out.

There's no need because the V5/ID would be SORN'd anyway, therefore flagged up straight away - it would be impossible to have the ID without being so.

But a vehicle that's M.O.T'd, Taxed and on the road with D773 PVW will not be the scrapped RST so it will either be a ringer, kit car or other that may require the attention of the authorities.

[marshalla]

mwstewart said:

There's no need because the V5/ID would be SORN'd anyway, therefore flagged up straight away - it would be impossible to have the ID without being so.

Vehicles which were off the road before the SORN rules came in do not have to be declared.

[mwstewart]

Liquid Knight said:

But a vehicle that's M.O.T'd, Taxed and on the road with D773 PVW will not be the scrapped RST so it will either be a ringer, kit car or other that may require the attention of the authorities.

Good point

[Cliftonite]

Minis

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Mini-shell-with-...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Mini-1972-998cc-...

Both reported to eBay.

[V8forweekends]

V8forweekends said:

shakotan said:

Steffan said:

V8forweekends said:

AlexRS2782 said:

Another tax exempt Escort - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371047510066

Would be interesting to do an "ask seller question" about how the "bodyshell" can be collected for restoration - I wonder if it's even on the seller's property?

Or indeed if there is any such shell. Ringers are bad news for all car owners I hope this one falls away!

The photos have been stolen from somewhere else, they do not show the 'vehicle' in question.

If you run a DLVA check the number comes back as a blue car.

It's still there despite reports - it couldn't be because there is a lot of bidding that it's being left up......

Well it ended having been bid up to 25K - best outcome since eBay ignored all the reports.

[Cliftonite]

V8forweekends said:

Well it ended having been bid up to 25K - best outcome since eBay ignored all the reports.

Some people have been having fun - check out the bid / retractions history!

[shakotan]

V8forweekends said:

V8forweekends said:

shakotan said:

Steffan said:

V8forweekends said:

AlexRS2782 said:

Another tax exempt Escort - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371047510066

Would be interesting to do an "ask seller question" about how the "bodyshell" can be collected for restoration - I wonder if it's even on the seller's property?

Or indeed if there is any such shell. Ringers are bad news for all car owners I hope this one falls away!

The photos have been stolen from somewhere else, they do not show the 'vehicle' in question.

If you run a DLVA check the number comes back as a blue car.

It's still there despite reports - it couldn't be because there is a lot of bidding that it's being left up......

Well it ended having been bid up to 25K - best outcome since eBay ignored all the reports.

I even had a live chat with one of the Listing Practices Team who agreed it was an 'illegal' item. That was over day a day before it ended.

[Liquid Knight]

shakotan said:

V8forweekends said:

V8forweekends said:

shakotan said:

Steffan said:

V8forweekends said:

AlexRS2782 said:

Another tax exempt Escort - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371047510066

Would be interesting to do an "ask seller question" about how the "bodyshell" can be collected for restoration - I wonder if it's even on the seller's property?

Or indeed if there is any such shell. Ringers are bad news for all car owners I hope this one falls away!

The photos have been stolen from somewhere else, they do not show the 'vehicle' in question.

If you run a DLVA check the number comes back as a blue car.

It's still there despite reports - it couldn't be because there is a lot of bidding that it's being left up......

Well it ended having been bid up to 25K - best outcome since eBay ignored all the reports.

I even had a live chat with one of the Listing Practices Team who agreed it was an 'illegal' item. That was over day a day before it ended.

Bid History said:

w***w ( 1845Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Cancelled: £7,000.00
Bid:25-Apr-14 22:09:43 BST
Cancelled: 25-Apr-14 23:33:46 BST
l***u ( 653Feedback score is 500 to 999) Cancelled: £501.00
Bid:21-Apr-14 21:28:04 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:37:26 BST
7***e ( 58Feedback score is 50 to 99) Cancelled: £700.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 11:29:21 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:34:51 BST
7***e ( 58Feedback score is 50 to 99) Cancelled: £700.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 19:27:14 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 19:29:18 BST
a***v ( 401Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £301.00
Bid:21-Apr-14 18:52:25 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:13:53 BST
a***g ( 472Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £7.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 09:01:26 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:37:31 BST
8***t ( 277Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £50.00
Bid:20-Apr-14 22:42:42 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:09:52 BST
a***a ( 488Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £400.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 18:47:07 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 19:28:54 BST
a***k ( 288Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £150.00
Bid:21-Apr-14 10:45:35 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:11:13 BST
m***9 ( 1061Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Cancelled: £0.99
Bid:20-Apr-14 20:18:19 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 07:41:04 BST
0***0 ( 10Feedback score is 10 to 49) Cancelled: £10,000.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 10:28:32 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:45:33 BST
1***a ( 735Feedback score is 500 to 999) Cancelled: £55.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 10:02:56 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:36:25 BST
e***t ( 2709Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Cancelled: £11.98
Bid:20-Apr-14 20:34:11 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:00:45 BST
x***o ( 77Feedback score is 50 to 99) Cancelled: £300.00
Bid:21-Apr-14 18:32:31 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:36:20 BST
t***8 ( 137Feedback score is 100 to 499) Retracted: £25,000.00
Bid:25-Apr-14 22:47:44 BST
Retracted: 25-Apr-14 23:03:46 BST
t***8 ( 137Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £100,000.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 18:19:51 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:28:39 BST
s***l ( 422Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £511.00
Bid:22-Apr-14 23:00:04 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:28:15 BST
n***m ( 546Feedback score is 500 to 999) Cancelled: £101.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 10:25:21 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:35:32 BST
0***1 ( 137Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £100.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 10:04:49 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:44:59 BST
c***m ( 145Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £102.00
Bid:21-Apr-14 00:04:47 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:06:53 BST
w***e ( 46Feedback score is 10 to 49) Cancelled: £10.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 09:37:14 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:36:57 BST
d***a ( 52Feedback score is 50 to 99) Cancelled: £100,100.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 18:26:14 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:30:39 BST
r***c ( 256Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £81,999.00
Bid:25-Apr-14 23:11:46 BST
Cancelled: 25-Apr-14 23:34:32 BST
u***s ( 202Feedback score is 100 to 499) Cancelled: £400.00
Bid:22-Apr-14 21:11:15 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:26:12 BST
f***e ( 33Feedback score is 10 to 49) Cancelled: £100.01
Bid:21-Apr-14 08:15:38 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:02:23 BST
t***s ( 7068Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Retracted: £80,000.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 18:12:05 BST
Retracted: 27-Apr-14 18:31:35 BST
s***t ( 80Feedback score is 50 to 99) Cancelled: £525.00
Bid:23-Apr-14 20:12:24 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 08:38:44 BST
9***e ( 18Feedback score is 10 to 49) Retracted: £20,000.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 18:48:34 BST
Retracted: 27-Apr-14 19:08:27 BST
y***a ( private ) Cancelled: £6,700.00
Bid:25-Apr-14 21:21:22 BST
Cancelled: 25-Apr-14 21:30:45 BST
a***s ( 0 ) Cancelled: £7,800.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 19:18:35 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 19:19:58 BST
u***n ( 0 ) Cancelled: £20,000.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 16:50:44 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:32:11 BST
7***h ( 24Feedback score is 10 to 49) Cancelled: £10,100.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 19:19:14 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 19:22:45 BST
g***g ( 22Feedback score is 10 to 49) Cancelled: £23,000.00
Bid:27-Apr-14 18:40:06 BST
Cancelled: 27-Apr-14 18:43:58 BST
a***e ( 0 ) New eBay Member (less than 30 days) Cancelled: £6,532.34
Bid:25-Apr-14 21:02:40 BST
Cancelled: 25-Apr-14 23:42:50 BST

Great work everyone. That has made my year.

[Jetblackonetenth]

I had reported this one and could not believe they let it run
I had a busy weekend but thought it would good if it could be bid up top a silly amount and then retracted
when I looked at it I was not the only one who had the same thought
well done guys

[marshalla]

How about a complete lie ? (found int kit car forum on PH, where the OP is as annoyed as I am).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-7-rebuilt-historic...

There is NO way a real 7 can be built on an Elan chassis.

[shakotan]

marshalla said:

How about a complete lie ? (found int kit car forum on PH, where the OP is as annoyed as I am).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-7-rebuilt-historic...

There is NO way a real 7 can be built on an Elan chassis.

Already gone!

[Spyder5]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Clubman-1275-GT-log...

Blatantly selling a log book

[Steffan]

Spyder5 said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Clubman-1275-GT-log...

Blatantly selling a log book

Reported to the bay. Yet another unlawful V5 sale offered. I do wonder why Ebay are quite as lax.

[V8forweekends]

Steffan said:

Spyder5 said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Clubman-1275-GT-log...

Blatantly selling a log book

Reported to the bay. Yet another unlawful V5 sale offered. I do wonder why Ebay are quite as lax.

Well, let's have a think. They could employ people and/or technology to weed these things out, but there's no effort on the part of the authorities, no-ones holding them in any way responsible. On the other hand they could employ a couple of underpaid and overworked folk to take an occasional look at stuff that's reported and end a few listings, whilst letting some "slip through the net" and generate Fees for them......

[V8forweekends]

Spyder5 said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Clubman-1275-GT-log...

Blatantly selling a log book

The seller says -

... and the car was never declared scrapped to local authorities

[Liquid Knight]

V8forweekends said:

Spyder5 said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Clubman-1275-GT-log...

Blatantly selling a log book

The seller says -

... and the car was never declared scrapped to local authorities

If eBay fail to remove this one shall we get bidding?

[Steffan]

Liquid Knight said:

V8forweekends said:

Spyder5 said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Clubman-1275-GT-log...

Blatantly selling a log book

The seller says -

... and the car was never declared scrapped to local authorities

If eBay fail to remove this one shall we get bidding?

I rather think we should. The seller will get the message.

[Liquid Knight]

Steffan said:

Liquid Knight said:

V8forweekends said:

Spyder5 said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Clubman-1275-GT-log...

Blatantly selling a log book

The seller says -

... and the car was never declared scrapped to local authorities

If eBay fail to remove this one shall we get bidding?

I rather think we should. The seller will get the message.

It's still up? Time to share on every social media platform available...

[digger the goat]

Anyone ??


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M-G-B-KIT-CAR-PARTS-PROJ...