Nice looking car, though, but!

With no actual description in the description field, this is going to go for rather less money than the vendor hopes, I fear!

rolleyes

ClaphamGT3

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Here's another;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mk1-escort-RS-2000-avo-/...

marshalla

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Sunday 18th May 2014

a few more

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Speedfight-100cc-breakin...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1982-Lotus-Eclat-Riviera...
(ID should go with chassis, not body for an Eclat)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APRILIA-SR50-REGISTRATIO...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-series-chassi...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mgb-1970-parts-good-fron...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Corsa-2-0-got-1... (wrong engine on V5C)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IVECO-DAILY-VAN-FRONT-PA...

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Cliftonite said:

LLantrisant said:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

a NG TF

V5c: Morris Marina 2 door saloon

Nice looking car, though, but!

With no actual description in the description field, this is going to go for rather less money than the vendor hopes, I fear!

rolleyes

If the vehicle still registered as a Morris Marina then I doubt if the car has ever been reregistered correctly following the original build. In which case it is very very tricky to properly register the car and there is every possibility that the authorities will not accept the registration. I would always avoid such cars unless you are fully aware of the potential (and very likely) problems.

I had just this problem with a Banham Sprite (Austin Healey Frogeye Sprite Replica and quite a good one) based on a late 1960's Miniwirth a good Wood and Picket engine. It has taken me six months of negotiation with the DVLA to get this registered on an age related plate and I scraped through without a full IVA with considerable difficulty. The kit was 20 years old and IVA'ing that would be a costly exercise. All too easy for such cars to be beyond registration at anywhere near economic cost. rolleyes

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RichB said:

The Naylor TF is a kit car based on a Marina... confused

yeah..based on a marina...but its an NG...so it should be named as NG in the V5c

or do you see a 2-door saloon morris in that ebay advert?

RichB

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LLantrisant said:

RichB said:

The Naylor TF is a kit car based on a Marina... confused

yeah..based on a marina...but its an NG...so it should be named as NG in the V5c or do you see a 2-door saloon morris in that ebay advert?

If you say so, I'm not really bothered about arguing. It's a kit car... everyone knows what a Naylor is. Is it really a problem that the V5 is in the name of the donor car?

Steffan

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RichB said:

LLantrisant said:

RichB said:

The Naylor TF is a kit car based on a Marina... confused

yeah..based on a marina...but its an NG...so it should be named as NG in the V5c or do you see a 2-door saloon morris in that ebay advert?

If you say so, I'm not really bothered about arguing. It's a kit car... everyone knows what a Naylor is. Is it really a problem that the V5 is in the name of the donor car?

Post IVA and the change in approach by the DVLA the absence of correct registration is a serious problem possibly terminal for that car. That is why so many unregistered kit cars are supposed barn finds on Ebay currently. The IVA requirements are a real change. The DVLA want such cars properly registered and getting a 20 year old kit through IVA is not genera;;y an economic proposition.

These cars are not in accordance with the description in the V5 and in consequence IVA may be the only way to register them. The last five kit cars I have IVA'd in the last year have all been very difficult to get through because they were part built but unregistered kits. Proving the provenance of the all parts used individually and having all the the genuine donor history and ORIGINAL receipts is what the DVLA wants and that is not easy to achieve. Best avoided IMO unless buying at an appropriate severely reduced price.

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even under the "old" laws the car would have been named morris marina sports or similar...

and / or the body type whould have been update to sports, special or convertible.

so the car was never declared with the dvla being a kit.

Steffan

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LLantrisant said:

I agree. Getting the kit registered on an age related plate would be almost impossible given the age and lack of history on the kit and the car. Getting this registered at all would be an expensive exercise. I do hope prospective purchasers understand the reality of such unfinished kits. Beyond economic registration IMO.

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Sierra Cosworth - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1987-Ford-Sierra-RS-Cosw...

Listing comes with a nice little story about the sad "theft" of the sellers "uninsured" car. Funny how the thieves managed to strip the car down completely where it was stored, but decided only to take the shell whilst deciding to leave all the other parts like the engine, glass, doors, etc rolleyes

Surely even if your car was uninsured you'd still have notified the Police of the theft? rolleyes

Seller even states how the V5 is HPI clear so therefore it wont show up on any searches when someone eventually chucks the ID on a stolen / written off Sierra Cosworth to hide an identity, or more likely ends up making a poverty spec GL shell replica a "real" cosworth banghead

Lad on one of the Ford forums reported it earlier but eBay advised the listing was "legitimate" on the basis he was selling other parts of the car as part of the listing rolleyes

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Not a kit, but a thread asking about how to retain vehicle identity - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

One of the regulars from this thread might like to give advice ?

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Special, not Sport. The post further up which quotes me and then goes on to waffle about the 'Locust' misses the point that I made so much, it isn't even worth quoting here.

I wasn't talking about the 'Lotus' there, rather obviously and I seem to understand vehicle registration a little better than you. Misregistration is almost completely an old kit car issue and has little to do with dishonesty.

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A mini V5 up on ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/E-Reg-1967-Austin-Mini-1...

And another
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Reg-1979-Leyland-Cars-...

Edited by rovermorris999 on Monday 26th May 17:47

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