Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Vitesse-Kit-Car-...
on 24-Mar-15 at 07:45:36 GMT, seller added the following information:
Car has the option of the burlington chassis fitted.....
but is still registered as triumph vitesse!!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marlin-Roadster-Triumph-...
this marlin, even nice, is still running on the triumph gt6 registration
on 24-Mar-15 at 07:45:36 GMT, seller added the following information:
Car has the option of the burlington chassis fitted.....
but is still registered as triumph vitesse!!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marlin-Roadster-Triumph-...
this marlin, even nice, is still running on the triumph gt6 registration
no---they cannot retain the original reg:
the marlin has its own chassis, as well as the burlington
common procedure in the old times, using the donor reg for such cars, but unfortunately both cars missed the amnesty period, where the V5c could have been easily corrected under "make" with the name of the kit-manufacturer
the marlin has its own chassis, as well as the burlington
common procedure in the old times, using the donor reg for such cars, but unfortunately both cars missed the amnesty period, where the V5c could have been easily corrected under "make" with the name of the kit-manufacturer
Edited by RochdaleGT on Tuesday 31st March 12:14
Cliftonite said:
Gone. Quick work from Ebay there.sim72 said:
Cliftonite said:
Gone. Quick work from Ebay there.
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Liquid Knight said:
Why didn't the article mention the 327 YPK reg to help stop it being used on a stolen car???gazz81 said:
I think this has got to be one of the most blatent ones for a long time, and these cars are still being stolen and given new ID like this, imagine if you lost your Cosworth pride and joy just because this toe rag is selling an ID ebay.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
A big smiling face to hide the obvious criminal possibilities!
A big smiling face to hide the obvious criminal possibilities!
Cfnteabag said:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
A big smiling face to hide the obvious criminal possibilities!
Selling the plates is, presumably, not illegal. But the price would suggest that mischief could be a possibility!A big smiling face to hide the obvious criminal possibilities!
eBay question said:
What exactly are you selling here?
A Land Rover number plate on a retention certificate or log book and plates?
A Land Rover number plate on a retention certificate or log book and plates?
eBay answer said:
Plates, V5 & Vin
Date of Manufacture > 1963
date of registration >1970
Body type > Light 4x4 utility
Vin No matches V5
Engine Number > Not known
Thats about it
It is SORN and does have up to date RED V5
It's quite a good one really could be what ever you want it to be.
Sounds like a ringing kit to me. Date of Manufacture > 1963
date of registration >1970
Body type > Light 4x4 utility
Vin No matches V5
Engine Number > Not known
Thats about it
It is SORN and does have up to date RED V5
It's quite a good one really could be what ever you want it to be.
eBay reply said:
the chassis is in bits
its all legal
thanks for the heads up anyway
You need eight points to retain an identity. A complete chassis is only five. A repaired or altered chassis will require an iva and be put on a "Q" plate at best. its all legal
thanks for the heads up anyway
There is no legitimate reason for anyone to buy this.
eBay reply said:
You can have the lot if you want and rebuild it. Its all here in bits, come get it before it goes to the tip.
For radically altered vehicles a points system is used.
Vehicle must score eight or more points to retain the original identity and avoid the need for an SVA test.
The following values are allocated to the major components used:
chassis or body shell (body and chassis as one unit - monocoque ie direct replacement from the manufacturer) (original or new) = 5 points
suspension = 2 points
axles = 2 points
transmission = 2 points
steering assembly = 2 points
engine = 1 point
Why not advertise the job lot? At least that way you'll attract legitimate customers and save you the expense of a trip to the tip. For radically altered vehicles a points system is used.
Vehicle must score eight or more points to retain the original identity and avoid the need for an SVA test.
The following values are allocated to the major components used:
chassis or body shell (body and chassis as one unit - monocoque ie direct replacement from the manufacturer) (original or new) = 5 points
suspension = 2 points
axles = 2 points
transmission = 2 points
steering assembly = 2 points
engine = 1 point
eBay reply said:
tell you what to keep you happy I'll take it off
Hows that!
Item no longer available. Hows that!
My response said:
My concern was as much keeping you out of trouble as someone else suffering.
Thank you for removing it.
All the best LK
Thank you for removing it.
All the best LK
Edited by Liquid Knight on Sunday 5th April 22:13
So presumably if these ringing kits are bought and acted upon, the criminal would to all intents and purposes have a motor that although stolen, wouldn't come up on any data bases, wouldn't arouse suspicion, wouldn't be on police files, etc, etc, in effect they'd have conjured up a whole new 'legit' car ?
daytona365 said:
So presumably if these ringing kits are bought and acted upon, the criminal would to all intents and purposes have a motor that although stolen, wouldn't come up on any data bases, wouldn't arouse suspicion, wouldn't be on police files, etc, etc, in effect they'd have conjured up a whole new 'legit' car ?
That is the essence of the problem. There are such cars running about. Hence the concern on here because very few buyers are sufficiently aware to spot the con. Hence the efforts on here to stop the nuisance. I regularly see at least a dozen kit cars a year that are clearly ringers on an old identity. All best avoided.
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