Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

[Liquid Knight]

In response to my critique for following up some of these listings...

Hagerty Classic Cars said:

STOLEN! Ford Sierra RS Cosworth stolen overnight 2/8/15 in Pitsea, Basildon. Please share and help this owner get his pride & joy back. Thanks!

[GC8]

The criticism isn't for doing it. The criticism is for the silly faux-law, and many of the examples that you have pursued with such misplaced enthusiasm, and too little real understanding in many cases.

No one will criticise you for finding/reporting/posting a Sierra Cosworth identity or any other righteous find.

[iSore]

Liquid Knight said:

a very high ranking judge once told me...

"Ignorance is no defense".

You got caught then?

[PAUL500]

That cosworth wont be rung, it will be stripped and sold as parts via ebay, gumtree, car shows etc, the parts will be easily sold to unsuspecting buyers who are restoring their own examples these days, decent 3dr parts are like rocking horse poop.

[Liquid Knight]

PAUL500 said:

That cosworth wont be rung, it will be stripped and sold as parts via ebay, gumtree, car shows etc, the parts will be easily sold to unsuspecting buyers who are restoring their own examples these days, decent 3dr parts are like rocking horse poop.

Sadly I'm inclined to agree. Especially in Moonstone Blue. Genuine Ford fans know to check their sources so chances are this one has been stolen to order for parts or there was a ringing kit ready for it.

50/50 as it would sell for £30,000+ on the open market to an unsuspecting buyer.

£5,000-£10,000 for a "Barn Find" to sell for parts and use the ringing kit from. Car stolen to order £5,000-£10,000 sell for £30,000 or more.

I know there were only fifty two Moonstone RS500's made but not sure how many of the five thousand or so Sierra Cosworths were that colour.

Time to buy Trackers for my fleet I think.

[Liquid Knight]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DAIMLER-JAGUAR-XJ6-CHASS...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/logbook-for-jago-kit-car...

Sneaky.

[lowdrag]

Ye Gods, this insanity gets boring. Here's a photo of my Mercedes which got rather bent. If you come across it please report it since the insurers reshelled it. It is therefore of course illegal, a clone, a false identity. Except that someone did clone it and for a while there were two of them running around with me getting all the parking fines from London. So go to work on that one for a while. It might keep you off Ebay. Oh, and the reshelling was in 1983 by the way and I sold the car to a main Mercedes agent.

[marshalla]

lowdrag said:

Ye Gods, this insanity gets boring. Here's a photo of my Mercedes which got rather bent. If you come across it please report it since the insurers reshelled it. It is therefore of course illegal, a clone, a false identity. Except that someone did clone it and for a while there were two of them running around with me getting all the parking fines from London. So go to work on that one for a while. It might keep you off Ebay. Oh, and the reshelling was in 1983 by the way and I sold the car to a main Mercedes agent.

Perfectly within the rules. A rebuild with a NEW shell or chassis can retain the identity as long as enough of the old parts are used (and it doesn't need that many). https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-...

[CanAm]

I think you'll find that Lowdrag is well aware of the rules.

[Cliftonite]

Jaguar XJS

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Personal-registration-V5...

[Liquid Knight]

Elite Registrations only value the plate at £75

If the plate was worth £300 I would have bought it, retained the plate and sent the log book off as scrapped.

[GC8]

Liquid Knight said:

Elite Registrations only value the plate at £75

If the plate was worth £300 I would have bought it, retained the plate and sent the log book off as scrapped.

Retained the plate how?

Honestly: do you have any idea what you are talking about? Any idea at all, about any of it?

[Liquid Knight]

GC8 said:

Liquid Knight said:

Elite Registrations only value the plate at £75

If the plate was worth £300 I would have bought it, retained the plate and sent the log book off as scrapped.

Retained the plate how?

Honestly: do you have any idea what you are talking about? Any idea at all, about any of it?

Just like the stack of 55 Morris Minor parts I bought. That number is now on a retention certificate. I have half the body and some other parts ready to mount on an old Land Rover. Re-bodied so it should pass the IVA/SVA/DISCO and retain the Land Rover identity as it will be a non-modified chassis, axles, engine, gearbox; so more than the eight points I'll need. The only change will be the body. Once this is done I can transfer the old plate from the retention certificate so it'll be a 55 Morris Minor truck with an age related plate.

Your critique may not be discrete but you do have a point. As the number plate isn't on a whole car with an M.O.T or M.O.T exemption notification the plate can not be retained as easily.

[GC8]

My discretion is inversely proportional to my frustration.

Edited by GC8 on Wednesday 12th August 12:31

[Liquid Knight]

GC8 said:

My discretion is inversely proportional to my fustration.

Welcome to the internet.

[Cliftonite]

Jaguar XJ

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/jaguar-logbook-v5-/18182...

VOR 446H


Daimler V8

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1969-DAIMLER-V8-LOGBOOK-...

TKB 726G

[Liquid Knight]

Cliftonite said:

Jaguar XJ

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/jaguar-logbook-v5-/18182...

VOR 446H


Daimler V8

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1969-DAIMLER-V8-LOGBOOK-...

TKB 726G

No details on the XJ but the Daimler is on the system. Reported both. Good spot.

[SirSquidalot]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/chassis-with-v5-log-book...

Little odd?

[Liquid Knight]

SirSquidalot said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/chassis-with-v5-log-book...

Little odd?

What a tool. Good find there. Reported and shared with the Morris owners club.

[Cliftonite]

Harley Davidson

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/harley-davidson-v5-logbo...

Q212 PTS