RE: Driven: BAC Mono

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Stig

11,817 posts

284 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Fabulous car - would much prefer over a Caparo.

cheddar

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4,637 posts

174 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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militantmandy said:
Video review here:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/bac-mono-video-...

He really likes it! Looks like a whole shed-load of fun to me. If you've got the money for a car that is purely for the enjoyment of driving and nothing else then you'd be hard pushed to do better....apparently!
That is THE most effusive review I have ever heard coming from Steve Sutcliffe.

NicePlaceToBe

1,258 posts

231 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Wow - sounds amazing. Anyone know the story behind Briggs and BAC?

TWareham

116 posts

207 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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NicePlaceToBe said:
Wow - sounds amazing. Anyone know the story behind Briggs and BAC?
The Brothers Briggs have both come from a fantastic past of engineering and design at some of the worlds leading automotive manufacturers. They have taken the processes and best elements from these larger business to filter into their small production business with the BAC Mono. It works fabulously and gives them such a head start over many of the other small manufacturing businesses we deal with which enter the market with little or no knowledge of how the big boys work it.

Neill has come from working with Bentley Motors and Ford.
Ian has come from working with Porsche and Mercedes-Benz.

Other members of the team are equally experienced among the motor industry. In addition to all of this both the brothers and members of the team have entered professionally in race series giving them that passion and ability to design a pure thoroughbred road and track car.

Tom

chunkymonkey71

13,015 posts

198 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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In my lottery win garage this is the only brand new car that I want.


chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Rotary Madness said:
Anyone else wondering what it would be like with a turbocharger fitted? Something like an oldschool F1 car biggrin




No? Just me then getmecoat
Hmmm now you mention it, aren't radical doing a 2.0ltr Ecoboost ford engine in the new SL?...... Or how about a supercharger???.....

CHris.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

209 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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chuntington101 said:
Rotary Madness said:
Anyone else wondering what it would be like with a turbocharger fitted? Something like an oldschool F1 car biggrin




No? Just me then getmecoat
Hmmm now you mention it, aren't radical doing a 2.0ltr Ecoboost ford engine in the new SL?...... Or how about a supercharger???.....

CHris.
260bhp from 2 litres is pretty highly tuned NA. You've have to turn it down before fitting FI, and it would totally change the character of the car - we should be applauding that people are making a performance engine >without< a turbo on it!

steve_r

137 posts

236 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Gizmo! said:
260bhp from 2 litres is pretty highly tuned NA. You've have to turn it down before fitting FI, and it would totally change the character of the car - we should be applauding that people are making a performance engine >without< a turbo on it!
Agree, it's quick enough isn't it? Why loose that instant N/A precision, and get whizz.. bang.. Pssssht.. wheelspin you would get from a 400 bhp turbo?

It would be a wild ride tho I suppose smile

MrQuick

130 posts

160 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Gizmo! said:
chuntington101 said:
Rotary Madness said:
Anyone else wondering what it would be like with a turbocharger fitted? Something like an oldschool F1 car biggrin




No? Just me then getmecoat
Hmmm now you mention it, aren't radical doing a 2.0ltr Ecoboost ford engine in the new SL?...... Or how about a supercharger???.....

CHris.
260bhp from 2 litres is pretty highly tuned NA. You've have to turn it down before fitting FI, and it would totally change the character of the car - we should be applauding that people are making a performance engine >without< a turbo on it!
Turbos + Light cars are meh.

Just doesn't work. Superchargers like on the Atom do to an extent, but the car is light so what in the world are you going to do with that extra torque, its just not in the ethos of the lightweight design.

Revvy NA all the way.

Jont999

322 posts

210 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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That's a poke in the eye for Caparo - massively cheaper AND doesn't set you on fire. Win!

Matt Harper

6,615 posts

201 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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TWareham said:
The Brothers Briggs have both come from a fantastic past of engineering and design at some of the worlds leading automotive manufacturers. They have taken the processes and best elements from these larger business to filter into their small production business with the BAC Mono. It works fabulously and gives them such a head start over many of the other small manufacturing businesses we deal with which enter the market with little or no knowledge of how the big boys work it.

Neill has come from working with Bentley Motors and Ford.
Ian has come from working with Porsche and Mercedes-Benz.

Other members of the team are equally experienced among the motor industry. In addition to all of this both the brothers and members of the team have entered professionally in race series giving them that passion and ability to design a pure thoroughbred road and track car.


Tom
Ha! I've known Ian and Neil since they were snotty-nosed little nippers, they went to school with two of my younger brothers in Cheshire. Both of them were very influential in the design of my brothers home in Ybor City FL - they are both remarkably talented. This car has been in the pipeline for a long time - and credit to them both, they never wavered in their vision nor compromised (at all) in the execution.
Their marine and architectural design work is inspiring too, as is the precision in which they shape their sideburns and goatees.
Well done, you little scallies!! You deserve all the success and recognition this project will deliver.


thewheelman

2,194 posts

173 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Wow! I want one of those!

northo

2,375 posts

219 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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TWareham said:
The Brothers Briggs have both come from a fantastic past of engineering and design at some of the worlds leading automotive manufacturers. They have taken the processes and best elements from these larger business to filter into their small production business with the BAC Mono. It works fabulously and gives them such a head start over many of the other small manufacturing businesses we deal with which enter the market with little or no knowledge of how the big boys work it.

Neill has come from working with Bentley Motors and Ford.
Ian has come from working with Porsche and Mercedes-Benz.

Other members of the team are equally experienced among the motor industry. In addition to all of this both the brothers and members of the team have entered professionally in race series giving them that passion and ability to design a pure thoroughbred road and track car.

Tom
Clever of you to get in there so quick Tommy wink

vintageracer01

873 posts

175 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Much nicer than the KTM X-bow

TWareham

116 posts

207 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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northo said:
Clever of you to get in there so quick Tommy wink
You know me Edward always at the cutting edge!! Seeking the diamonds in the rough..! We are very pleased to have a partnership with BAC so thank you for all your help in the beginning with this.

mikEsprit

827 posts

186 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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connoisseur1968 said:
I have been following this car very closely since I first caught sight of one at the Peter Saywell event at Goodwood circuit back in April this year. The build quality, engineering and attention to detail on what was effectively a pre-production car was quite simply unbelievable.

I then saw the car in action for the first time at the Festival of Speed and had a long chat with the owners of BAC and also the guys responsible for retailing the cars in the UK. Once again, I was totally blown away by the level of professionalism and dedication from both the owners, designers and also the dealership guys who are understandably very excited about this car!!

I was then invited to attend the Autocar test drive last week at the Longcross test track by the dealer (they are building their brand new dealership about 500 yards away from the circuit in Virginia Water) and I have now decided sod it, I want one!!

My deposit has been paid and I am already counting the days until it arrives, which is unfortunately estimated to be end of summer 2012 due to the high demand and low production situation. I have owned a reasonable number of special cars over the last 15 years but I cannot remember being so excited about getting my hands on a car as I am the Mono.....to me, this is the sort of car that I have been waiting years for, one that you drive simply because you want to for the pure enjoyment!

The fact that this car is only a single seater is for me a huge bonus...when you drive a car with this level of performance and excitement I want to have no distractions from other occupants and I want to fully concentrate and enjoy the whole experience...
But if it had 2 seats, you could still enjoy a solo experience by removing the passenger seat or just not letting anyone ride with you. For me, a single seat car like this would suck. I like to take friends, kids, girls, etc. for rides in mine (87 esprit) because I know it is a unique experience for them and it is fun to show it off for me. Having an expensive single-seater would take away much of the enjoyment of having a neat car. This thing makes more sense as a rental car, I think. I suppose it may be one of many neat cars for someone or someone may be so well off/brave that he would hand over the keys to let someone else drive it, but neither of those describes me.

British Beef

2,205 posts

165 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Absolutely stunning, a jet fighter style canopy would make it look even smarter and negate the need to wear a helmet!

Very nice indeed, although I think you need to have good access to a race track (and quite deep pockets) to explore the limits and purpose of this car.

soad

32,877 posts

176 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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43034 said:
Lovely!

And Im not really a fan of modern cars.
Ditto smile

connoisseur1968

4 posts

154 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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I fully understand your comments and I would guess that you are sharing the feelings of the majority of people....it is indeed a selfish car and for sure, buyers like myself will no doubt have another car/cars to use for more everyday purposes.

I just personally feel that the primary reason why this car is going to be so special to drive is because the driver will be located dead centre of the car, the balance will be perfect and you will be better able to explore both the car and your own driving limits (both on the road and on the track).

If it had 2 seats then you would obviously be sitting off centre, and if you drive the car alone then the balance of the car has to be compromised...there is also the significant weight saving offered by a single seater as well, which is why the BHP per ton is greater than that of the Veyron! BAC are claiming a 0-60 time of 2.8 seconds, which is just about as fast as I would ever be comfortable reaching that speed!!

It is very brave of the BAC team to go to market with a single seat road car and I for one applaud them having the balls to do so, hence my taking the plunge and giving the dealer my deposit...
mikEsprit said:
But if it had 2 seats, you could still enjoy a solo experience by removing the passenger seat or just not letting anyone ride with you. For me, a single seat car like this would suck. I like to take friends, kids, girls, etc. for rides in mine (87 esprit) because I know it is a unique experience for them and it is fun to show it off for me. Having an expensive single-seater would take away much of the enjoyment of having a neat car. This thing makes more sense as a rental car, I think. I suppose it may be one of many neat cars for someone or someone may be so well off/brave that he would hand over the keys to let someone else drive it, but neither of those describes me.

TWareham

116 posts

207 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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