RE: Driven: BAC Mono
Discussion
MrQuick said:
Gizmo! said:
chuntington101 said:
Rotary Madness said:
Anyone else wondering what it would be like with a turbocharger fitted? Something like an oldschool F1 car 
No? Just me then
Hmmm now you mention it, aren't radical doing a 2.0ltr Ecoboost ford engine in the new SL?...... Or how about a supercharger???.....No? Just me then
CHris.
Just doesn't work. Superchargers like on the Atom do to an extent, but the car is light so what in the world are you going to do with that extra torque, its just not in the ethos of the lightweight design.
Revvy NA all the way.
I'm not saying this car needs it at all. But if BACs develop the car further then it might be a better option,and more cost effective, than fitting something like a hartley v8.
Chris
sinbaddio said:
Not the run it broke on then.Flat6 said:
connoisseur1968 said:
These types of car often seem more like 4-wheeled motorbikes so I don't see a problem with just one seat. At the price they are asking I assume most buyers will have other cars in their garage in case they need to take passengers.I cannot understand comments about needing a turbocharger. The bhp/per ton sounds good enough to me and if I've understood Steve's piece correctly it is not the power and speed that makes the Mono so special but rather the fact that it is a complete package and the performance is accessible and usable, even on the road. That might be lost with frced induction.
If I lived in the UK (and had time to drive a single seater - I struggle finding opportunities even with four seats!) this would be on my shopping list.
reading this autocar article takes me directly back to 2005, when i first saw a picture of the red brooke 260 double r prototype in this very same esteemed publication (google :autocar reviews brooke )
i thought at that time that the brooke looked so impractical , but was charmed by the looks and the spec
the brooke has a lot in common with the bac mono: COSWORTH 2.3 litre in-line 4,longitudinal engine layout with inline gearbox,double wishbone suspension all round, 550kg, 260 bhp and 200lb ft, 480bhp/ton, fantastic scream from the cosworth engine as you approach 7,000rpm, completely open cockpit with no roof or doors meaning total exposure to the great outdoors as well as to the elements, all british design and execution, normally aspirated, autocar tested at 3.2 to 60 and 7.68 to 100
i first saw the prototype , at the brooke factory in 2007, and was totally knocked out by it
i was lucky enough to be able to buy the prototype late in 2007 direct from the factory after the car had been featured in autocar (2nd in their 0-100-0 contest at 12.15 secs)/car/evo/octane /autoexpress/times /guardian/telegraph/ fifth gear/ 1001 dream cars
the car is quite unlike anything else i have ever driven, and i still enjoy every drive in it throughly
the differences include a non-central seating position , although this allows you to carry a passenger (and we have driven across france to the spanish border in one day --600miles-- ---- so not really that impractical----but you do need a very understanding partner), and a conventional albeit right hand gear-shift
and the car was significantly cheaper(nb it had very little carbonfibre unlike the bac mono)
sadly, i think that brooke are no longer making cars , and of the 9 that i know were produced , some were exported
i do wish bac the very best of luck
these sort of road-legal superlight weight cars offer something very special in their driving experience, which we all would be poorer for not experiencing
i thought at that time that the brooke looked so impractical , but was charmed by the looks and the spec
the brooke has a lot in common with the bac mono: COSWORTH 2.3 litre in-line 4,longitudinal engine layout with inline gearbox,double wishbone suspension all round, 550kg, 260 bhp and 200lb ft, 480bhp/ton, fantastic scream from the cosworth engine as you approach 7,000rpm, completely open cockpit with no roof or doors meaning total exposure to the great outdoors as well as to the elements, all british design and execution, normally aspirated, autocar tested at 3.2 to 60 and 7.68 to 100
i first saw the prototype , at the brooke factory in 2007, and was totally knocked out by it
i was lucky enough to be able to buy the prototype late in 2007 direct from the factory after the car had been featured in autocar (2nd in their 0-100-0 contest at 12.15 secs)/car/evo/octane /autoexpress/times /guardian/telegraph/ fifth gear/ 1001 dream cars
the car is quite unlike anything else i have ever driven, and i still enjoy every drive in it throughly
the differences include a non-central seating position , although this allows you to carry a passenger (and we have driven across france to the spanish border in one day --600miles-- ---- so not really that impractical----but you do need a very understanding partner), and a conventional albeit right hand gear-shift
and the car was significantly cheaper(nb it had very little carbonfibre unlike the bac mono)
sadly, i think that brooke are no longer making cars , and of the 9 that i know were produced , some were exported
i do wish bac the very best of luck
these sort of road-legal superlight weight cars offer something very special in their driving experience, which we all would be poorer for not experiencing
Looks like a fantastic car. Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh and in action. Got sent some photos before the official release and definitely thought it looked like a very interesting concept, nice to see that it drives and performs as well as it looks.
TWareham said:
Great Review, he really got and understood the car!
We ordered one just by how it looked from a few drawings and a quick walk around the pre-production model, it looks that great...!!
What colour you getting? Don't forget to post a few pics on Twitter when you get it. We ordered one just by how it looked from a few drawings and a quick walk around the pre-production model, it looks that great...!!
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.connoisseur1968 said:
If it had 2 seats then you would obviously be sitting off centre, and if you drive the car alone then the balance of the car has to be compromised...there is also the significant weight saving offered by a single seater as well, which is why the BHP per ton is greater than that of the Veyron! BAC are claiming a 0-60 time of 2.8 seconds, which is just about as fast as I would ever be comfortable reaching that speed!!
Not if it was like the light car company rocket or yamaha ox99-11 
I really do like the look of the mono!
Awesome!
There is a but, lots of comments about wanting this to be a 2 seater, which i guess completely goes against what this car is about. In the real world though, it makes a lot of sense.
Imagine your favourite B road as commented on, the road is clear and as you apex a corner theres a horse box/range rover/tractor/caravan (take your pic) and your sat dead centre behind it.....no vision past it to carry on your merry way. Your so low you cant see through the vehicle in fronts windscreen and edging out to get a view for an overtake means you already have half the car on the other side of the road (not a good move) or hang back hoping for a better view and a gap whilst in the meantime an Atom has already flown past because he can see!
A serious driving car for the road, i doubt it, a track weapon there is no doubt, but how much extra has this cost to comply with road law?
There is a but, lots of comments about wanting this to be a 2 seater, which i guess completely goes against what this car is about. In the real world though, it makes a lot of sense.
Imagine your favourite B road as commented on, the road is clear and as you apex a corner theres a horse box/range rover/tractor/caravan (take your pic) and your sat dead centre behind it.....no vision past it to carry on your merry way. Your so low you cant see through the vehicle in fronts windscreen and edging out to get a view for an overtake means you already have half the car on the other side of the road (not a good move) or hang back hoping for a better view and a gap whilst in the meantime an Atom has already flown past because he can see!
A serious driving car for the road, i doubt it, a track weapon there is no doubt, but how much extra has this cost to comply with road law?
There's an amazing difference between the reaction to this thread (once the journos have sung it's praises)and the rather lukewarm response back in March when it broke cover for the first time. I got involved with the project about 2 years ago, and it has to be said that the Briggs brothers have done exactly what they said they would do. Well done to them!
Gizmo! said:
alexpa said:
Not if it was like the light car company rocket or yamaha ox99-11
I really do like the look of the mono!
Does anyone know what happened to the Rocket? I remember reading about that in maybe 1992...I really do like the look of the mono!
northo said:
There's an amazing difference between the reaction to this thread (once the journos have sung it's praises)and the rather lukewarm response back in March when it broke cover for the first time. I got involved with the project about 2 years ago, and it has to be said that the Briggs brothers have done exactly what they said they would do. Well done to them!
Personally, this is the first I've heard of it. You hear of so many attempts to build new sports cars that come to nothing that perhaps it is better to wait until they've built it and it's turned out to be brilliant before getting excited - at least this one managed to completely avoid the Sniff Petrol cliches. 959 said:
Surely the suspension on the mono would make it quicker on 'real' roads than the craparo?
Pretty pointless comparison, either one would be capable of traveling at massively excessive speeds on the public road without even troubling 50% of it's capabilites. Cars like this (and most modern cars tbh) are just a lesson in self control as far as road use is concerned. Utterly, utterly fabulous looking car with performance to match.
I really would like one of these. A lot. Surprised at the price tag too, seems more than reasonable.
I rarely get this excited by a new car - top marks !
I really would like one of these. A lot. Surprised at the price tag too, seems more than reasonable.
I rarely get this excited by a new car - top marks !
I accidentally pressed the 'rate' button first, in it's default '5' level. Apologies - I meant to put a 10
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