Auto Express tyre test issue! Goodyear wins :D

Auto Express tyre test issue! Goodyear wins :D

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HellDiver

5,708 posts

182 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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One of the fleet Superbs has just had a pair of F1-A2 fitted on the front, replacing the F1-A. I must say, the squidgyness around centre on the motorway has gone, a big problem with the F1-A in my opinion. I can't say I've noticed much more grip - the 2.5TDI can still easily spin up the fronts on dry road just by using the PD torque lump.

The work fleet runs Goodyear/Dunlop, so any back to back comparisons are with whatever tyre was factory fitted. I think those Superbs had SP Sport 01 fitted factory, which melted away in no time.

Edit: Interesting to see Apollo on the test - I always quite liked the Accelera Alpha (Accelera is a different brand name for Apollo). They're up there with the little known Tigar and Lassa which are budgets far and away better than LingLong, Wanli, etc.

Edited by HellDiver on Wednesday 7th September 13:09

jon-

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16,509 posts

216 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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muffinmenace said:
I've got Eagle F1 A1's on the front of my STD at the moment, coming from Michelin PS2's I've noticed a massive increase in road noise, reduced economy, poor turn in and I feel they lack in communication department, however I did benefit from better wet performance and a smoother ride. I'm literally about to go out to fit some Eagle F1 A2's to the car now so I'm keen to see if they've improved on the feedback and turn in as they are the two most important aspects for me.

or maybe I should get some T1-R's hehe

Targarama said:
Whose proving ground was host for this tyre test?
Bridgestone i think...
Would be good to hear your feedback, one thing I never did was F1 A vs F1 A2!

Correct, it was Bridgestone. So much for the home advantage!

jatinder

1,667 posts

213 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Great website OP, saw it last year, used it as proof to show my father that P6000 were crap!

jon-

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16,509 posts

216 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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HellDiver said:
Edit: Interesting to see Apollo on the test - I always quite liked the Accelera Alpha (Accelera is a different brand name for Apollo). They're up there with the little known Tigar and Lassa which are budgets far and away better than LingLong, Wanli, etc.
That I didn't know. Other reasonable budgets seem to be Neuton and Infinity, though at the end of the day a budget is a budget!

Thanks jatinder smile

Classic Grad 98

24,700 posts

160 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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^I have an 'Infinity' on the N/S/R of my mondeo barge. The car oversteers surprisingly readily in wet, right-hand bends and roundabouts!
I'm surprised there aren't more tyre tests like these and I would like to see one covering the budget end of the spectrum. Dispite what most will say, there is such thing as an okay budget and some are truly shocking.

BoostMonkey

569 posts

185 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Shame they did not include the Conti Sportcontact 5P's as I think it would have wiped the floor with the lot of them.


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Overall conclusion - you get what you pay for. yes

jon-

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16,509 posts

216 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Classic Grad 98 said:
I'm surprised there aren't more tyre tests like these and I would like to see one covering the budget end of the spectrum. Dispite what most will say, there is such thing as an okay budget and some are truly shocking.
That's something I've been trying to put together, but unsurprisingly no budget manufacturer a) has the test facilities to support it and b) wants to give you tyres so you can tell the world how rubbish they are frown

Classic Grad 98

24,700 posts

160 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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jon- said:
Classic Grad 98 said:
I'm surprised there aren't more tyre tests like these and I would like to see one covering the budget end of the spectrum. Dispite what most will say, there is such thing as an okay budget and some are truly shocking.
That's something I've been trying to put together, but unsurprisingly no budget manufacturer a) has the test facilities to support it and b) wants to give you tyres so you can tell the world how rubbish they are frown
Yeah I can see how those factors cause problems. I've noticed that there are no user reviews online either- presumably based on the perception (right or wrong) that the type of people that buy cheap tyres don't care about their performance.
I am encouraged that no-one has shouted at me for using budget and mismatched tyres on my car though... I am nearing the end of the life of the continentals on the front and I'm too skint to buy those again- so hopefully I can buy a pair of budgets which don't have the same friction co-efficient as Piers Morgan.

Lancs Jag Boy

437 posts

186 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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I've had P-Zeros on two Jaguar XJs and they were terrible. If the car was left for anything more than 3 days without moving, then they felt like square tyres for the first five minutes. Terrible, but at £240 a corner, I wansn;t impressed. Not brilliant in the wet either.

jon-

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16,509 posts

216 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Classic Grad 98 said:
Yeah I can see how those factors cause problems. I've noticed that there are no user reviews online either- presumably based on the perception (right or wrong) that the type of people that buy cheap tyres don't care about their performance.
There's a few, and they're mostly amusing reads! Sorry for the shameless self linking again but...

Linglong L688
Sunny SN3800
Wanli S1088
Event WL905
Goodride SA05
Primewell PZ900
Sunew YS618

The problem I have is keeping up with all the budget brands, one study showed something insane like 800 different Chinese budget brands, ironically all coming out of the same 2 or 3 factories over there.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Why do people want to only see dry results?
We live in the rather wet uk and for our road cars which in general will last 2-3 years on a car were going to see a lot of rain and puddles.
Therefore you do want to buy a good wet performing tyre.

Fox-

13,238 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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jon- said:
There's a few, and they're mostly amusing reads! Sorry for the shameless self linking again but...

Linglong L688
Sunny SN3800
Wanli S1088
Event WL905
Goodride SA05
Primewell PZ900
Sunew YS618

The problem I have is keeping up with all the budget brands, one study showed something insane like 800 different Chinese budget brands, ironically all coming out of the same 2 or 3 factories over there.
I see a worrying amount of Event tyres fitted to 530/330's in the PH classifieds frown

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Welshbeef said:
Why do people want to only see dry results?
We live in the rather wet uk and for our road cars which in general will last 2-3 years on a car were going to see a lot of rain and puddles.
Therefore you do want to buy a good wet performing tyre.
That's the way I do it! IMO ultimate "dry" performance means very little for real-world sriving in UK. Any half decent tyre will be sufficient. It's the wet which sorts the men from the boys.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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A very decent result for Nokian. I was always under the impression they were considered a budget option.

I'm very much of the opinion, that for 99% of people, 99% of the time it's much of a muchness. Of course, when it comes to that one rainy emergency stop, that's when the decent tyres distance themselves from the ditchfinders.

thecremeegg

1,964 posts

203 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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No Rainsport 2s? Pah!

vit4

3,507 posts

170 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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thecremeegg said:
No Rainsport 2s? Pah!
I thought this, would have been curious to see the result. Although seeing as they're owned by Continental, perhaps they were worried that they'd better their own (more expensive) tyres?

MrHanky

64 posts

207 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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thecremeegg said:
No Rainsport 2s? Pah!
I was just thinking the same thing. The goodyears were ok in my opinion but I love the Uniroyal Rainsport 2's. Brilliant in the wet and also very good in the dry.
I also went from Goodyear Duragrips on my old Yaris to Uniroyal Rain Experts and also noticed a big difference in wet grip.

Mark

Sukh13

712 posts

185 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Overall conclusion - you get what you pay for. yes
Except that you pay more than the 3% difference in performance for the top of the list tyres?

mmm-five

11,239 posts

284 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Sukh13 said:
Except that you pay more than the 3% difference in performance for the top of the list tyres?
Would you choose:
  • Price A for a surgeon with a 97% success rate, or
  • Price B (2 x Price A) for a surgeon with a 100% success rate?