Auto Express tyre test issue! Goodyear wins :D
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One of the fleet Superbs has just had a pair of F1-A2 fitted on the front, replacing the F1-A. I must say, the squidgyness around centre on the motorway has gone, a big problem with the F1-A in my opinion. I can't say I've noticed much more grip - the 2.5TDI can still easily spin up the fronts on dry road just by using the PD torque lump.
The work fleet runs Goodyear/Dunlop, so any back to back comparisons are with whatever tyre was factory fitted. I think those Superbs had SP Sport 01 fitted factory, which melted away in no time.
Edit: Interesting to see Apollo on the test - I always quite liked the Accelera Alpha (Accelera is a different brand name for Apollo). They're up there with the little known Tigar and Lassa which are budgets far and away better than LingLong, Wanli, etc.
The work fleet runs Goodyear/Dunlop, so any back to back comparisons are with whatever tyre was factory fitted. I think those Superbs had SP Sport 01 fitted factory, which melted away in no time.
Edit: Interesting to see Apollo on the test - I always quite liked the Accelera Alpha (Accelera is a different brand name for Apollo). They're up there with the little known Tigar and Lassa which are budgets far and away better than LingLong, Wanli, etc.
Edited by HellDiver on Wednesday 7th September 13:09
muffinmenace said:
I've got Eagle F1 A1's on the front of my STD at the moment, coming from Michelin PS2's I've noticed a massive increase in road noise, reduced economy, poor turn in and I feel they lack in communication department, however I did benefit from better wet performance and a smoother ride. I'm literally about to go out to fit some Eagle F1 A2's to the car now so I'm keen to see if they've improved on the feedback and turn in as they are the two most important aspects for me.
or maybe I should get some T1-R's
Would be good to hear your feedback, one thing I never did was F1 A vs F1 A2!or maybe I should get some T1-R's
Targarama said:
Whose proving ground was host for this tyre test?
Bridgestone i think...Correct, it was Bridgestone. So much for the home advantage!
HellDiver said:
Edit: Interesting to see Apollo on the test - I always quite liked the Accelera Alpha (Accelera is a different brand name for Apollo). They're up there with the little known Tigar and Lassa which are budgets far and away better than LingLong, Wanli, etc.
That I didn't know. Other reasonable budgets seem to be Neuton and Infinity, though at the end of the day a budget is a budget!Thanks jatinder
^I have an 'Infinity' on the N/S/R of my mondeo barge. The car oversteers surprisingly readily in wet, right-hand bends and roundabouts!
I'm surprised there aren't more tyre tests like these and I would like to see one covering the budget end of the spectrum. Dispite what most will say, there is such thing as an okay budget and some are truly shocking.
I'm surprised there aren't more tyre tests like these and I would like to see one covering the budget end of the spectrum. Dispite what most will say, there is such thing as an okay budget and some are truly shocking.
Classic Grad 98 said:
I'm surprised there aren't more tyre tests like these and I would like to see one covering the budget end of the spectrum. Dispite what most will say, there is such thing as an okay budget and some are truly shocking.
That's something I've been trying to put together, but unsurprisingly no budget manufacturer a) has the test facilities to support it and b) wants to give you tyres so you can tell the world how rubbish they are jon- said:
Classic Grad 98 said:
I'm surprised there aren't more tyre tests like these and I would like to see one covering the budget end of the spectrum. Dispite what most will say, there is such thing as an okay budget and some are truly shocking.
That's something I've been trying to put together, but unsurprisingly no budget manufacturer a) has the test facilities to support it and b) wants to give you tyres so you can tell the world how rubbish they are I am encouraged that no-one has shouted at me for using budget and mismatched tyres on my car though... I am nearing the end of the life of the continentals on the front and I'm too skint to buy those again- so hopefully I can buy a pair of budgets which don't have the same friction co-efficient as Piers Morgan.
Classic Grad 98 said:
Yeah I can see how those factors cause problems. I've noticed that there are no user reviews online either- presumably based on the perception (right or wrong) that the type of people that buy cheap tyres don't care about their performance.
There's a few, and they're mostly amusing reads! Sorry for the shameless self linking again but...Linglong L688
Sunny SN3800
Wanli S1088
Event WL905
Goodride SA05
Primewell PZ900
Sunew YS618
The problem I have is keeping up with all the budget brands, one study showed something insane like 800 different Chinese budget brands, ironically all coming out of the same 2 or 3 factories over there.
jon- said:
There's a few, and they're mostly amusing reads! Sorry for the shameless self linking again but...
Linglong L688
Sunny SN3800
Wanli S1088
Event WL905
Goodride SA05
Primewell PZ900
Sunew YS618
The problem I have is keeping up with all the budget brands, one study showed something insane like 800 different Chinese budget brands, ironically all coming out of the same 2 or 3 factories over there.
I see a worrying amount of Event tyres fitted to 530/330's in the PH classifieds Linglong L688
Sunny SN3800
Wanli S1088
Event WL905
Goodride SA05
Primewell PZ900
Sunew YS618
The problem I have is keeping up with all the budget brands, one study showed something insane like 800 different Chinese budget brands, ironically all coming out of the same 2 or 3 factories over there.
Welshbeef said:
Why do people want to only see dry results?
We live in the rather wet uk and for our road cars which in general will last 2-3 years on a car were going to see a lot of rain and puddles.
Therefore you do want to buy a good wet performing tyre.
That's the way I do it! IMO ultimate "dry" performance means very little for real-world sriving in UK. Any half decent tyre will be sufficient. It's the wet which sorts the men from the boys.We live in the rather wet uk and for our road cars which in general will last 2-3 years on a car were going to see a lot of rain and puddles.
Therefore you do want to buy a good wet performing tyre.
A very decent result for Nokian. I was always under the impression they were considered a budget option.
I'm very much of the opinion, that for 99% of people, 99% of the time it's much of a muchness. Of course, when it comes to that one rainy emergency stop, that's when the decent tyres distance themselves from the ditchfinders.
I'm very much of the opinion, that for 99% of people, 99% of the time it's much of a muchness. Of course, when it comes to that one rainy emergency stop, that's when the decent tyres distance themselves from the ditchfinders.
thecremeegg said:
No Rainsport 2s? Pah!
I was just thinking the same thing. The goodyears were ok in my opinion but I love the Uniroyal Rainsport 2's. Brilliant in the wet and also very good in the dry.I also went from Goodyear Duragrips on my old Yaris to Uniroyal Rain Experts and also noticed a big difference in wet grip.
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