RE: SOTW: Convertibles For Autumn
Discussion
Threeh said:
Jumping in on the MX5 vs MR2 (Roadster) debate.
Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
the voice of reason, I have slapped myself on the wrist for such a pointless debate. thanks Dad.Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
PS: MX is best
Threeh said:
Jumping in on the MX5 vs MR2 (Roadster) debate.
Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
When I had to pick it was the MK2 MR2; they're available for shed money too. Can be really twitchy, nothing wakes you up on the way to work like the odd near death experience. Fun.Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
Out of the first three, it would probably be the Audi as the other two would most likely be too rusty. Sort out the hood on the BMW and it would definitely exceed the thousand pounds.
Mate of mines got 2 e30 cabs one a 2.4 conversion (not sure what it is really badged as an alpina d3) and a 325 the 325 sounds the nuts and the obvious risk of death if it rolls adds to the excitement feels quicker than his 2.4 one too but cramped for 4 adults and they dont attract the girls as well as you'd expect. Great cruising around with the roof down doesn't matter if nobody thinks you look stylish you feel it. O/T there was an mx5 for sale near me at a dealer for around 500quid but then another car they were selling had 3 15" wheels and one 16" so not the most reputable outlet
Mate of mines got 2 e30 cabs one a 2.4 conversion (not sure what it is really badged as an alpina d3) and a 325 the 325 sounds the nuts and the obvious risk of death if it rolls adds to the excitement feels quicker than his 2.4 one too but cramped for 4 adults and they dont attract the girls as well as you'd expect. Great cruising around with the roof down doesn't matter if nobody thinks you look stylish you feel it. O/T there was an mx5 for sale near me at a dealer for around 500quid but then another car they were selling had 3 15" wheels and one 16" so not the most reputable outlet
thewheelman said:
That is much nicer than the other 3 imo, good spot! As long as it isn't suffering from the bulkhead issues that these car can have (cracks). Then, with a bit of aftermarket bulkhead re-inforcement, that is a very nice, motor, that should last many more years.Always seems to be a lot of support for the mx-5 on here, but not my cup of T really, no idea if it drives as well as folk say, but I will never want one.
The e30 is a nice car, the Audi looks posher than it is, but the Saab is the best.. by far.
marc2 said:
Threeh said:
Jumping in on the MX5 vs MR2 (Roadster) debate.
Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
the voice of reason, I have slapped myself on the wrist for such a pointless debate. thanks Dad.Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
PS: MX is best
anything fast said:
marc2 said:
Threeh said:
Jumping in on the MX5 vs MR2 (Roadster) debate.
Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
the voice of reason, I have slapped myself on the wrist for such a pointless debate. thanks Dad.Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
PS: MX is best
Lol, if I had enough hair left to justify either I'd be a happy man
anything fast said:
marc2 said:
Threeh said:
Jumping in on the MX5 vs MR2 (Roadster) debate.
Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
the voice of reason, I have slapped myself on the wrist for such a pointless debate. thanks Dad.Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
PS: MX is best
Threeh said:
Jumping in on the MX5 vs MR2 (Roadster) debate.
Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
I don't know if an MR2 sypder can be had for this sort of money but what a fantastic car. When manufactures make cars too easy to drive people cry about them being souless when they dial in a little character that has the chance of biting back people also cry. Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
I have and do love everything about the slightly odd looking MR2 spyder. Thought it was great when it came out and still think. Mid-engine, convertible, decently quick for what it is and toyota build qaulity and if you are feeling real froggy even an SMG gearbox
thewheelman said:
anything fast said:
marc2 said:
Threeh said:
Jumping in on the MX5 vs MR2 (Roadster) debate.
Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
the voice of reason, I have slapped myself on the wrist for such a pointless debate. thanks Dad.Obviously the MX5 is the greater commercial success, but the MR2 with more power and the engine being in the middle they are both quite different. As someone else mentioned the MR2 can be quite unforgiving when wet.
Anyway, pointless argument saying one is better than the other as they are both brilliant in their own right.
PS: MX is best
So much for mid-engined cars, maybe I should have bought the MX5 afterall.
Edited as somehow I'd really messed up the formatting.
Edited by CDP on Sunday 11th September 10:44
I have owned 2 of the cars mentioned so feel I can comment on them both equally having had one from being just under 18 months old from new the MX5 with less than 10k on it and the Audi cabby 2.6 V6 manual.
The Mx5 was the by far the WORST car I have ever had the misfortune to own let alone drive, it was always breaking down if it started in the morning it was a bonus, the central locking used to lock it's self if you got out of the car and just shut the door so you had to climb through the back windows after unzipping it, it had no power steering and the seats were so low your a** was on the carpet, so petrol and a match for that one. Now I have the best car in the world I have an Audi 80 cabby 2.6 V6 with 1 owner from new and it goes like stink nto the "slow barge" you gusy say they are Ive had her 5 years and she is my show car within my club I have had at least 10 people wanting to buy her but she is not for sale she gets attention where ever she goes and is in pristine condition so get an Audi at least it wont rot around you like the BMW and the MX5. Dont believe me take a look
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/tttoptott...
The Mx5 was the by far the WORST car I have ever had the misfortune to own let alone drive, it was always breaking down if it started in the morning it was a bonus, the central locking used to lock it's self if you got out of the car and just shut the door so you had to climb through the back windows after unzipping it, it had no power steering and the seats were so low your a** was on the carpet, so petrol and a match for that one. Now I have the best car in the world I have an Audi 80 cabby 2.6 V6 with 1 owner from new and it goes like stink nto the "slow barge" you gusy say they are Ive had her 5 years and she is my show car within my club I have had at least 10 people wanting to buy her but she is not for sale she gets attention where ever she goes and is in pristine condition so get an Audi at least it wont rot around you like the BMW and the MX5. Dont believe me take a look
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/tttoptott...
You obviously had a snotter of a hacked about with MX5.
Anything without PAS but with central locking would be using an aftermarket locking kit, which probably explains random locking and failure to start... Someone with more enthusiasm than skill cocking about with auto electrics rarely has great results.
I'd hardly say low seating position was worthy of criticism, although if you want to perch on top of the car, then an MX5 isn't for you anyway.
The wife's Alfa was in for a major service this week, so I chucked her the keys to our MX5.... She had never driven it before, but is now a convert. (ours is a Mk1 1.8iS with PAS but no central locking)
Anything without PAS but with central locking would be using an aftermarket locking kit, which probably explains random locking and failure to start... Someone with more enthusiasm than skill cocking about with auto electrics rarely has great results.
I'd hardly say low seating position was worthy of criticism, although if you want to perch on top of the car, then an MX5 isn't for you anyway.
The wife's Alfa was in for a major service this week, so I chucked her the keys to our MX5.... She had never driven it before, but is now a convert. (ours is a Mk1 1.8iS with PAS but no central locking)
The Audi does have a certain look. But come on people, let's face reality here. Cabbys like this aren't renowned for their handling, and the Audi is probably up there with the most benign, anti-handling cabs of that time. I've had a fair few Audi's and each one has fallen way short of the mark. Sure it's pretty chic for the money, but badge snobbery aside, you won't be getting one of these to put a smile on your face. Compared to the BMW though, you're more likely to find one that's in decent condition for not a lot of outlay.
The MX5 is the only one I haven't driven or owned out of the three. I've read that the driving position is too high. But now we're complaining about it being too low! God, I really need to scratch this MX5 itch. Even the douche bags on Jalopnik can't get enough of the Miata.
The MX5 is the only one I haven't driven or owned out of the three. I've read that the driving position is too high. But now we're complaining about it being too low! God, I really need to scratch this MX5 itch. Even the douche bags on Jalopnik can't get enough of the Miata.
Hellbound said:
The MX5 is the only one I haven't driven or owned out of the three. I've read that the driving position is too high. But now we're complaining about it being too low! God, I really need to scratch this MX5 itch.
Sure its not the MGF with the too-high seating position? I've heard it said about them but never about an MX5 - though drivers over about 6'3 sometimes find height an issue which lower seats can help with.Either way, you're right about scratching the itch! Fantastic pure driving fun, but try one and find out for yourself.
GravelBen said:
Hellbound said:
The MX5 is the only one I haven't driven or owned out of the three. I've read that the driving position is too high. But now we're complaining about it being too low! God, I really need to scratch this MX5 itch.
Sure its not the MGF with the too-high seating position? I've heard it said about them but never about an MX5 - though drivers over about 6'3 sometimes find height an issue which lower seats can help with.Either way, you're right about scratching the itch! Fantastic pure driving fun, but try one and find out for yourself.
If you can put up with the position (it's perfectly comfortable and lower than a hatch) you'll get a good F for this money too. A TF for this price will be very ropey or broken.
TTTOPTOTTY said:
I have owned 2 of the cars mentioned so feel I can comment on them both equally having had one from being just under 18 months old from new the MX5 with less than 10k on it and the Audi cabby 2.6 V6 manual.
The Mx5 was the by far the WORST car I have ever had the misfortune to own let alone drive, it was always breaking down if it started in the morning it was a bonus, the central locking used to lock it's self if you got out of the car and just shut the door so you had to climb through the back windows after unzipping it, it had no power steering and the seats were so low your a** was on the carpet, so petrol and a match for that one. Now I have the best car in the world I have an Audi 80 cabby 2.6 V6 with 1 owner from new and it goes like stink nto the "slow barge" you gusy say they are Ive had her 5 years and she is my show car within my club I have had at least 10 people wanting to buy her but she is not for sale she gets attention where ever she goes and is in pristine condition so get an Audi at least it wont rot around you like the BMW and the MX5. Dont believe me take a look
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/tttoptott...
Th Audi doesn't go like stink ..you can have subjective opinions about how a car handles and looks but you can't argue performance..less than 100bhp per tonneThe Mx5 was the by far the WORST car I have ever had the misfortune to own let alone drive, it was always breaking down if it started in the morning it was a bonus, the central locking used to lock it's self if you got out of the car and just shut the door so you had to climb through the back windows after unzipping it, it had no power steering and the seats were so low your a** was on the carpet, so petrol and a match for that one. Now I have the best car in the world I have an Audi 80 cabby 2.6 V6 with 1 owner from new and it goes like stink nto the "slow barge" you gusy say they are Ive had her 5 years and she is my show car within my club I have had at least 10 people wanting to buy her but she is not for sale she gets attention where ever she goes and is in pristine condition so get an Audi at least it wont rot around you like the BMW and the MX5. Dont believe me take a look
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/tttoptott...
Dagnut said:
TTTOPTOTTY said:
I have owned 2 of the cars mentioned so feel I can comment on them both equally having had one from being just under 18 months old from new the MX5 with less than 10k on it and the Audi cabby 2.6 V6 manual.
The Mx5 was the by far the WORST car I have ever had the misfortune to own let alone drive, it was always breaking down if it started in the morning it was a bonus, the central locking used to lock it's self if you got out of the car and just shut the door so you had to climb through the back windows after unzipping it, it had no power steering and the seats were so low your a** was on the carpet, so petrol and a match for that one. Now I have the best car in the world I have an Audi 80 cabby 2.6 V6 with 1 owner from new and it goes like stink nto the "slow barge" you gusy say they are Ive had her 5 years and she is my show car within my club I have had at least 10 people wanting to buy her but she is not for sale she gets attention where ever she goes and is in pristine condition so get an Audi at least it wont rot around you like the BMW and the MX5. Dont believe me take a look
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/tttoptott...
Th Audi doesn't go like stink ..you can have subjective opinions about how a car handles and looks but you can't argue performance..less than 100bhp per tonneThe Mx5 was the by far the WORST car I have ever had the misfortune to own let alone drive, it was always breaking down if it started in the morning it was a bonus, the central locking used to lock it's self if you got out of the car and just shut the door so you had to climb through the back windows after unzipping it, it had no power steering and the seats were so low your a** was on the carpet, so petrol and a match for that one. Now I have the best car in the world I have an Audi 80 cabby 2.6 V6 with 1 owner from new and it goes like stink nto the "slow barge" you gusy say they are Ive had her 5 years and she is my show car within my club I have had at least 10 people wanting to buy her but she is not for sale she gets attention where ever she goes and is in pristine condition so get an Audi at least it wont rot around you like the BMW and the MX5. Dont believe me take a look
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/tttoptott...
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