RE: Driven: BMW M5

[philmots]

Ramses said:

philmots said:

I do prefer the standard smaller multi-spoke wheels to the optional blingy ones.

The wheel above is standard (if thats what you meant) - it's actually a great improvement on previous wheels. Very comfy and the button/roller wheel arrangements is great.

Not sure what the 'M'car wheel would be though.

Yes I meant that. I prefer the wheel on this test car which is STD. I think the optionals are 20" and IMO look nowhere near as good.

[craigjm]

Dapster said:

Just specced one up on the cofigurator (for fun). £80k for a 5 is a lot of money but what else can touch it?



Vehicle configuration Option code Price¹
M5 Saloon £73,040.00
Cohiba Brown Merino lthr - BMW Individual ZAWT £1,855.00
Imperial Blue Xirallic A89 £0.00
20" M Double-spoke style 343M alloy wheels 2NZ £2,080.00

Model designation deletion 320 £0.00
Rear spoiler deletion 326 £0.00
Reversing Assist camera3AG £330.00
Seat ventilation, front 453 £510.00
M Multi-function seats, front 4MA £875.00
Loudspeaker system - BMW Professional £330.00
Sun protection glass 761 £295.00
Speed limit display 8TH £250.00
Piano Black - BMW Ind. XE7 £460.00
Price information Total price¹
Total £80,025.00

I specced one up against a 640d Msport and the M5 then looks good value as a lot that is standard on the 5 is optional on a 6

[anonymous-user]

If BMW did a E91 M3 Tourer, i'd literally buy one tommorrow!! Come on BMW, get it built!!


(the M5 although epic, is a bit too big for me)

[anonymous-user]

According to EVO, they have figured the new M5 at 8.7s to 100, and that's mph, not kph!!

(considering the low 232g/km that must be a new record for "performance/ economy" surely???)

[Zod]

Max_Torque said:

According to EVO, they have figured the new M5 at 8.7s to 100, and that's mph, not kph!!

(considering the low 232g/km that must be a new record for "performance/ economy" surely???)

That is quick.

[Olf]

Zod said:

Max_Torque said:

According to EVO, they have figured the new M5 at 8.7s to 100, and that's mph, not kph!!

(considering the low 232g/km that must be a new record for "performance/ economy" surely???)

That is quick.

997 Turbo time... impressive.

[Dagnut]

Max_Torque said:

According to EVO, they have figured the new M5 at 8.7s to 100, and that's mph, not kph!!

(considering the low 232g/km that must be a new record for "performance/ economy" surely???)

Must be a record for power to weight also...whats the GTR do it in? incredible time

[Zod]

Top-down camera system is the one to have - reversing camera plus cameras under the mirrors give a top-down picture of the car, helping you into the tightest space in one go (well, it works for me, but my wife still can't do it).

[alexpa]

CO2 emissions of just 232g/km is a great achievement for the day.

The numbers for the engine look great.

What are the weights of the new M5 unit and MP4-12C unit, like for like?

Some numbers for the two twin turbo units

M5 560bhp @ 6000, 502lbft @ 1500-5750 232g/km CO2, 28.5 combined cycle. 1870kg

MP4-12C 592bhp @ 7000 442 lbft @ 3000-7000 279g/km CO2, 24.2 combined cycle. 1300kg

Of course the M5 unit is for a kinda luxury barge with CO2 test cycle reducing features like stop-start whereas the other is for a road missile.

[British Beef]

It always amazes me that these super saloons offer more technology than you get in any period supercar, yet cost far far less. I suppose that is the cost saving benefit of mass production.

If BMW now make a supercar with exactly the same mechanicals but a smaller and neater sports car exterior, the cost will balloon. The coupe versions always cost more than the 4/5dr despite getting less car for your money.

On a side, does anyone know what the service intervals will be? The usual variable 12k-18k miles depending on how its driven??

[E38Ross]

alexpa said:

CO2 emissions of just 232g/km is a great achievement for the day.

The numbers for the engine look great.

What are the weights of the new M5 unit and MP4-12C unit, like for like?

Some numbers for the two twin turbo units

M5 560bhp @ 6000, 502lbft @ 1500-5750 232g/km CO2, 28.5 combined cycle. 1870kg

MP4-12C 592bhp @ 7000 442 lbft @ 3000-7000 279g/km CO2, 24.2 combined cycle. 1300kg

Of course the M5 unit is for a kinda luxury barge with CO2 test cycle reducing features like stop-start whereas the other is for a road missile.

It's amazing if the almost 1.9 tonne barge with similar power is more economical than the supposed economical much lighter sports car.

Chris Harris seems to think BMW have nailed it with the new M5.

Agree though, that new M5 lump in a 1300kg car would be stonking.

[Trommel]

anonymous said:

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... and think how much better the engine will sound.

8.7 to a hundred isn't hanging around for a car like that though.

[alexpa]

E38Ross said:

alexpa said:

CO2 emissions of just 232g/km is a great achievement for the day.

The numbers for the engine look great.

What are the weights of the new M5 unit and MP4-12C unit, like for like?

Some numbers for the two twin turbo units

M5 560bhp @ 6000, 502lbft @ 1500-5750 232g/km CO2, 28.5 combined cycle. 1870kg

MP4-12C 592bhp @ 7000 442 lbft @ 3000-7000 279g/km CO2, 24.2 combined cycle. 1300kg

Of course the M5 unit is for a kinda luxury barge with CO2 test cycle reducing features like stop-start whereas the other is for a road missile.

It's amazing if the almost 1.9 tonne barge with similar power is more economical than the supposed economical much lighter sports car.

Chris Harris seems to think BMW have nailed it with the new M5.

Agree though, that new M5 lump in a 1300kg car would be stonking.

It would be fun in a Morgan Aero 8 instead of the non turbo 325bhp 4.4L BMW V8 they currently use

[amokwa]

Beefmeister said:

Autocar seem to think it's rather good too:


Mmmmmm, toys!!!

Mercedes beat BMW at their own game ! Autocar test both with the XKR and confirm E63 edges ahead of M5 when it comes to pure driving thrills.

[gumsie]

gumsie said:

As a drivers car, I've no doubt this will be better than an E63, it usually is. (Just like the 3 bests the C). It's always been this way. S-Class still kills the 7 tho.
But cannot BMW though put a proper classy looking interior in their cars? I'll take the Benz(es) everytime thanks.

The times may be changing though, seen the front cover of this weeks autocar?

[CarbonM5]

amokwa said:

Mercedes beat BMW at their own game ! Autocar test both with the XKR and confirm E63 edges ahead of M5 when it comes to pure driving thrills.

When the E92 M3 was initially reviewed everyone said the Merc was better aswell.

Then they changed their minds.

[amokwa]

CarbonM5 said:

When the E92 M3 was initially reviewed everyone said the Merc was better aswell.

Then they changed their minds.

I thought they said the C63 was quicker in a straight line which it still is, it was the agility the M3 edged.

The autocar verdict is a landmark being the first time Mercedes has beaten BMW at it's own game, going to keep demand for the Merc high which I am not happy about !

Edited by amokwa on Thursday 6th October 09:28

[Zod]

amokwa said:

I thought they said the C63 was quicker in a straight line which it still is. It was the agility the M3 edged and is still the case.

The autocar verdict is a landmark being the first time Mercedes has beaten BMW at it's game, going to keep demand for the Merc high which I am not happy about !

Let's see the other verdicts before paying too much attention to Autocar. It's not exactly the heavyweight end of the motorin press.

[NNNick]

Do we have confirmation BMW really are pumping car sounds into the cabin?

On the plus side, you would't get kicked off a track day for noise!!

[HATS ARE BORING]

anonymous said:

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Yes you need them for the fake engine noise.