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Trommel

12,425 posts

147 months

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Thursday 6th October 2011 quote quote all
Chris Chilton, Car Magazine - little different from a 550i

Chris Harris, evo - totally different from any other 5 Series

scratchchin

tonker

47,334 posts

136 months

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Thursday 6th October 2011 quote quote all
Trommel said:
Chris Chilton, Car Magazine - little different from a 550i

Chris Harris, evo - totally different from any other 5 Series

scratchchin
you are not suggesting one of those two may have one on pre-order and it would hurt his profit if it turned out to be a dud, are you ? smile

Dagnut

3,374 posts

81 months

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Thursday 6th October 2011 quote quote all
tonker said:
you are not suggesting one of those two may have one on pre-order and it would hurt his profit if it turned out to be a dud, are you ? smile
Did EVO even test the 550i?

amokwa

366 posts

85 months

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Thursday 6th October 2011 quote quote all
Zod said:
The article tells me almost nothing about what the cars are like to drive.
M5 & XFR have remarkably similar characteristics. AMG firmer ride, more responsive steering, every inch of the journey feels like an event.

Zod

27,169 posts

146 months

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Thursday 6th October 2011 quote quote all
amokwa said:
Zod said:
The article tells me almost nothing about what the cars are like to drive.
M5 & XFR have remarkably similar characteristics. AMG firmer ride, more responsive steering, every inch of the journey feels like an event.
Such insight!
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franki68

2,704 posts

109 months

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Thursday 6th October 2011 quote quote all
I thought the m5 was 150kg heavier according to autocar,maybe I mixed that up ? Anway the point is I am more drawn to amg products now which is remarkable as having owned amg cars and m cars I woudl always prefer the M car...the e63 and c63 both blew me away though ,whereas the m3 just didnt raise my pulse,and the m6 was a talented but aloof beast.

AlexS

1,085 posts

120 months

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Thursday 6th October 2011 quote quote all
E38Ross said:
alexpa said:
CO2 emissions of just 232g/km is a great achievement for the day.

The numbers for the engine look great.

What are the weights of the new M5 unit and MP4-12C unit, like for like?

Some numbers for the two twin turbo units

M5 560bhp @ 6000, 502lbft @ 1500-5750 232g/km CO2, 28.5 combined cycle. 1870kg

MP4-12C 592bhp @ 7000 442 lbft @ 3000-7000 279g/km CO2, 24.2 combined cycle. 1300kg

Of course the M5 unit is for a kinda luxury barge with CO2 test cycle reducing features like stop-start whereas the other is for a road missile.
It's amazing if the almost 1.9 tonne barge with similar power is more economical than the supposed economical much lighter sports car.

Chris Harris seems to think BMW have nailed it with the new M5.

Agree though, that new M5 lump in a 1300kg car would be stonking.
That probably also says more about BMWs understanding of the emissions rules and measurement techniques than it does about the actual real world economy of the cars.

I assume that the M5 has an M button and that the factory delivery setting is for this to be set in the low performance mode, which is then the one which is tested.

Beefmeister

12,046 posts

118 months

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Friday 7th October 2011 quote quote all
Vid of the Stig (really? they're sill pedalling that?) hooning around in an M5:

http://youtu.be/HzJtokF4VKs

Doesn't tell you much, but it does look rather good:


E38Ross

15,472 posts

100 months

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Friday 7th October 2011 quote quote all
AlexS said:
I assume that the M5 has an M button and that the factory delivery setting is for this to be set in the low performance mode, which is then the one which is tested.
and what's wrong with that? you don't have the drive an M5 fast all the time, ya know.

130R

4,848 posts

94 months

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Friday 7th October 2011 quote quote all
We'll see when someone lines them up but my money is on the M5 showing the E63 its tail lights in a straight line and around a track.

amg master

559 posts

83 months

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Friday 7th October 2011 quote quote all
amokwa said:
tonker said:
oh, and they will both lose 40K plus in less than 3 years...... making it a right result for someone prepared to wait and buy a used one.....
+1 Just hope AMG's change of direction doesn't send punters flocking to the marque in that time slowing the depreciation.
the e63amg seem to be suffering massive losses at the moment with some at dealers that have been on sale for nearly a year.
i nearly bought a blk 1 that listed at £84k for £45k 2weeks ago with 24000 miles on it on a 59plate but my mate reckons it will lose at least another 5k in the next couple of months so i will wait that little bit longer for 1.the e63 is an amazing car that sounds and drives fantastic.
i think when it comes to cars like the m5,rs6,e63 most customers have a personal brand preference they are all good in there own way.
i would still prefer the old 6.3 v8 to the new 5.5tt v8 just for the sound alone.cloud9

ZeeTacoe

2,394 posts

110 months

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Friday 7th October 2011 quote quote all
Beefmeister said:
Vid of the Stig (really? they're sill pedalling that?) hooning around in an M5:

http://youtu.be/HzJtokF4VKs

Doesn't tell you much, but it does look rather good:

Still rather have an E60

Zod

27,169 posts

146 months

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Friday 7th October 2011 quote quote all
ZeeTacoe said:
Beefmeister said:
Vid of the Stig (really? they're sill pedalling that?) hooning around in an M5:

http://youtu.be/HzJtokF4VKs

Doesn't tell you much, but it does look rather good:

Still rather have an E60
Having just sold mine, I'd rather have an F10.

ZeeTacoe

2,394 posts

110 months

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Friday 7th October 2011 quote quote all
Zod said:
ZeeTacoe said:
Beefmeister said:
Vid of the Stig (really? they're sill pedalling that?) hooning around in an M5:

http://youtu.be/HzJtokF4VKs

Doesn't tell you much, but it does look rather good:

Still rather have an E60
Having just sold mine, I'd rather have an F10.
Honestly I'd rather have a CTS-V but if it has to be a BMW I'd take that V10 over an emissions mandated v8.

edo

14,620 posts

153 months

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Thursday 13th October 2011 quote quote all
Chris Harris Evo review. HD.

Sorry if Pea Roast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOQIPw7-77w&fea...

edo

14,620 posts

153 months

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Friday 14th October 2011 quote quote all
Sounds a bit farty (I think the mic may be outside).

Goes well though....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7vRGerpKlw&fea...


MonteV

351 posts

148 months

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Tuesday 8th November 2011 quote quote all
Looks lovely, and apparently the engine's really awesome.

However, rest assured this new M5 is a step towards the faking of the automobile experience.

The M5 provides engine sound through its high fidelity sound system. So in the future when we are all driving electric vehicles, we'll still be able to listen to V8s or what have you, only it'll be artificial sound.

The M5 is the first step in this direction and for that it'll go down in history as the originator of the artificial driving experience. Not exactly M5 brand values, they way I had interpreted them, at least.

5lab

1,408 posts

84 months

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Tuesday 8th November 2011 quote quote all
not really. the M5s not the first car to do this..
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