RE: SOTW: Lada Niva Cossack

RE: SOTW: Lada Niva Cossack

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Trusty Steed

291 posts

194 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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My dad had one of these in Libya during the 80's. Very basic but went anywhere!! Never broke down either! Saw one the other day too, They still make them in Russia, but they are modernised somewhat!!


Its gripped, its locked, lets off road!!

y2blade

56,108 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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Colonial said:
Massive respect for these.

Real, no bull off roaders.
this^^^
they are bloody superb off-road yes


I've seen guys in those on Salisbury plain pulling Disco's out of trouble.

thewheelman

2,194 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
thewheelman said:
I always look forward to SOTW, but can't help being disappointed by this one. They weren't very good in their day, & getting whimsical about the car just because it's old & there aren't many left, doesn't change the fact that it was st when new, & it's st now.

As for "It was even quite popular in the UK for a while" Err.......no they weren't, not at any point in time.

Edited by thewheelman on Friday 23 September 08:20
Urm yes they were, esp in the farming community. And actually, they were very good. 90% of what a Defender of the day could do for something like half the price.
Yeah, coming from Gloucestershire, where there are a stload of farms, i can tell you they were a laughing stock. So dream away all you like, all the country types drove Land Rovers or Land Cruisers if they wanted to get jobs done.

thewheelman

2,194 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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Opulent said:
thewheelman said:
rofl My mate had one as a first car in the early 90's......."superb", if by that you mean slips all over the place & wheelspins on wet grass, then yes, they were superb.
Don't tell me. He had road tyres on it.
No, off road tyres.

cptsideways

13,547 posts

252 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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I used to own one, baby pooh brown it was


On a set of SATS knobblies it was awesome offroad, so much better than my SeriesII LR I had around the same time. It had the best heater of any car I've ever owned, until the summer that was, as you could'nt turn it off rofl


Mechanically brilliant little cars, truly awful on the road above 50mph but great fun none the less, mine died of rust :sad:

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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thewheelman said:
Nyphur said:
These are absolutely superb offroad
rofl My mate had one as a first car in the early 90's......."superb", if by that you mean slips all over the place & wheelspins on wet grass, then yes, they were superb.
I'm gonna guess you know zilch about off roading??


Wet grass is a bit like driving on ice. And amazingly, almost all 4x4's are pretty equal on it.

The reason being, most 4x4's transmit power to the drive wheels in exactly the same way..... so it makes no odds who makes it.

It then comes down to tyres - this will be the biggest decider.

The only other things that can make a difference would be full diff lockers (very rare in production 4x4's with only a couple of examples existing really) or a modern advanced off road biased TCS system like Jeep/LR currently use.


So all in all, on the same tyres a Defender would have been just as ste as your mates Lada given the same situation.

smile

thewheelman

2,194 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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y2blade said:
Colonial said:
Massive respect for these.

Real, no bull off roaders.
this^^^
they are bloody superb off-road yes


I've seen guys in those on Salisbury plain pulling Disco's out of trouble.
Hahahahahahaha, good one. Sorry, but i don't believe you. A Disco probably weighs twice as much as the Lada. It wouldn't have the torque to even budge it.

boobles

15,241 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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To be fair, the only reason why the majority of 4X4's get stuck is because of the way they are driven off road. 9 times out of 10, it's the driver at fault & not the vehicle.

thewheelman

2,194 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
thewheelman said:
Nyphur said:
These are absolutely superb offroad
rofl My mate had one as a first car in the early 90's......."superb", if by that you mean slips all over the place & wheelspins on wet grass, then yes, they were superb.
I'm gonna guess you know zilch about off roading??


Wet grass is a bit like driving on ice. And amazingly, almost all 4x4's are pretty equal on it.

The reason being, most 4x4's transmit power to the drive wheels in exactly the same way..... so it makes no odds who makes it.

It then comes down to tyres - this will be the biggest decider.

The only other things that can make a difference would be full diff lockers (very rare in production 4x4's with only a couple of examples existing really) or a modern advanced off road biased TCS system like Jeep/LR currently use.


So all in all, on the same tyres a Defender would have been just as ste as your mates Lada given the same situation.

smile
Again, you're wrong. As i had the same tyres he had on his stbox Lada as i did on my Defender, & i had no problems what so ever. I was for ever pulling his stbox out of situations that my Defender just went through.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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I think this is a pretty cool SOTW and anyone wanting a winter hack, then this is ideal.

I'd have seriously bought one last year could I have found one for sale (bought a Jeep instead).

A bit crude and very rugged, but exactly what a 4x4 should be. They have a pretty good suspension setup as standard and all the other off road trimmings.

I think some parts can be a bugger to get these days and rust is certainly an issue. But they are as good as ever for a compact, lightweight off roader.

You can even by them new still, albeit LHD only: http://www.markkey.co.uk/

y2blade

56,108 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
Wow, take it you actually know nothing about these then laugh
Evidently.
as is the case with half the posters on this thread.


thewheelman

2,194 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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God.....all the dreamers are out today, "better than a Land Rover" hahahahahahahahaha, oh fk me, that cracks me up. A new Fiat Panda is better off road than the Lada stbox.

thewheelman

2,194 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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y2blade said:
300bhp/ton said:
Wow, take it you actually know nothing about these then laugh
Evidently.
as is the case with half the posters on this thread.
Yeah, you two for a start.

y2blade

56,108 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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thewheelman said:
God.....all the dreamers are out today, "better than a Land Rover" hahahahahahahahaha, oh fk me, that cracks me up. A new Fiat Panda is better off road than the Lada stbox.
have a nice weekend coffee

btw
I agree with you about the new Panda 4x4 bow they are bloody good little cars

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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boobles said:
To be fair, the only reason why the majority of 4X4's get stuck is because of the way they are driven off road. 9 times out of 10, it's the driver at fault & not the vehicle.
Very true.

Getting out of a particularly bad Glastonbury, my slow and steady Mondeo drove past 2 Suzuki off-roaders, both sunk to the diffs.

And the Niva went places the army boys wouldn't take their Land Rovers.

y2blade

56,108 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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Opulent said:
And the Niva went places the army boys wouldn't take their Land Rovers.
yes

yep


thewheelman

2,194 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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y2blade said:
thewheelman said:
God.....all the dreamers are out today, "better than a Land Rover" hahahahahahahahaha, oh fk me, that cracks me up. A new Fiat Panda is better off road than the Lada stbox.
have a nice weekend coffee

btw
I agree with you about the new Panda 4x4 bow they are bloody good little cars
I guess cars aren't your thing. Funny how you bh on pretty much every thread, yet love the Lada stbox. Owned one? Hmmmm didn't think so.

thewheelman

2,194 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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y2blade said:
Opulent said:
And the Niva went places the army boys wouldn't take their Land Rovers.
yes

yep
The scrapyard.

y2blade

56,108 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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thewheelman said:
y2blade said:
Opulent said:
And the Niva went places the army boys wouldn't take their Land Rovers.
yes

yep
The scrapyard.
rofl

now "that" was funny

biggrin

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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thewheelman said:
Yeah, coming from Gloucestershire, where there are a stload of farms, i can tell you they were a laughing stock. So dream away all you like, all the country types drove Land Rovers or Land Cruisers if they wanted to get jobs done.
Well you see, that's funny as I grew up on a farm too. And guess what.... yep, that's right a Niva eek