RE: YKYWT... 1972 Ford Capri 'Perana'

[DBSV8]

roberthiggs said:

what the hell does YKYWT stand for.. really bugging me :/

You Know You Want This

[996TT_STEVO]

a11y_m said:

Did that end well?!

Seen you several times at SMRC events but didn't know you were a PHer. There's a few OKish photos of the car in here if you're interested.


I do like the green Capri too though, but not at that price. I grew up with my dad owning a succession of later Capri's but nothing more adventurous than a 2.0 Injection - he always regrests not getting one of the final 2.8's...

Hi Ally... I won't go into too much as I don't want anyone getting upset... what business is done on track should stay on track (although I still haven't had an apology!!!)... it was a brown moment for sure, I was heading for the Tyre wall at a silly speed (as you can tell in pic), had a stack of opposite on and just managed to catch it... Back to the Capri, it's a stunning car and very well looked after.

[996TT_STEVO]

Thanks for link Ally, will have a look at pics

[KM666]

EggsBenedict said:

Lazy journalism on the engine - usual 'big lump of yankee cast iron blah blah'. The engine in this car clearly has ally heads (just look at the photos), the block for this engine is actually pretty light - Ford pioneered a technique called 'thin wall casting' with this block. You can easily pick up a bare block on this engine with no issues at all with weight. The crank/cam/rods are no heavier than any other v8, and given the heads are made of ally, then this is again, no heavier than any other v8 of similar capacity.

Nice car, but 62K? Not on your nelly!

Shhhhhh don't tell anybody that, people like to think American engineering is 100 years behind Europes...

[Isimmo]

For the historians in here, when I was a young lad, there was a 'duck-egg-blue(ish) car very similar to this in Worthing, the chap who owned it lived opposite, it had two scaffold poles as exhausts and went like the clappers, sounded epic. I always promised I'd buy it if he put it up for sale, but he pranged it instead... Ducktail and all... It was YCD 401K, a 3ltr Köln Capri. The loss in 1985, well, it was a shame, in 2011 it suddenly becomes a travesty.

[Brocks Brookie]

This ones not bad

[DBSV8]

Brocks Brookie said:

This ones not bad

this is a replica of the Team Gunston Capri Perana Z181

original z181






The first Team Gunston sponsored Capri Perana V8 was built to Group 5 regulations.

The car's race number was Z181. It was first raced, driven by Bob Olthoff, at the South African Grand Prix meeting on 31 January 1970.

Bob Olthoff lapped the old Kyalami circuit at 1 minute 36 seconds, only 15 seconds slower than Formula 1 cars of the era. It was timed at over 270 km/h (170 MPH) at the end of the straight. By comparison Basil Green driving a somewhat modified Perana Capri V8 road car did 223 km/h (139 MPH) on the same straight.

Bob Olthoff went on to championship victory by winning 12 out of 13 races with one DNF.

This car's performance was overwhelming, and it finished some races 30 seconds ahead of the next car. This sheer dominance was probably very instrumental in a change in regulations that saw the main 1971 saloon series run cars in much more standard form. ut Bob Olthoff in another Team Gunston Capri Perana V8 won the 1971 championship too.

Z181 was powered by a Gurney Weslake 5 litre (302 cubic inch) V8 engine of a similar specification to those used in the Ford GT40. It used the same 4 speed 'top loader' Mustang gearbox as the road cars. The suspension was radically modified. At the front the Macpherson struts were replaced by a fully adjustable double wishbone suspension. The rear axle was up-rated to a Ford 9 inch item that contained a Detroit Locker differential. The back axle was located by 4 link bars and an unusual central lateral locator. The wheel diameter was increased to 15 inches. Stopping was provided by Ford GT40 discs.

Unlike modern saloon race cars, Z181 retained full interior trim

[666 SVT]

radlet6 said:

666 SVT said:

Not a Perana but 240bhp and only 10k in the classifieds.




The only problem with this is the aftermarket spoiler and arches. Nice - that is if it's a genuine RS3100 and not a replica.

Still rather have the RS2600 though.

Addendum: I have just had a look and it's not, it is a replica - I had my suspicions with the body kit. I am also amazed at how much people think a standard Mk1 3 litre Capri is worth: £15k in today's market - I think not.

Trawling through the other ads there looked to be a very well sorted Mk 111 with a 5.7 litre chevy conversion for £7k. Now that's more like it.

Edited by radlet6 on Monday 10th October 18:21

If you don't think a Capri is worth 15k then I would steer clear of the Escort section !

[M3John]

[Simon says]

radlet6 said:

666 SVT said:

Not a Perana but 240bhp and only 10k in the classifieds.




The only problem with this is the aftermarket spoiler and arches. Nice - that is if it's a genuine RS3100 and not a replica.

Still rather have the RS2600 though.

Addendum: I have just had a look and it's not, it is a replica - I had my suspicions with the body kit. I am also amazed at how much people think a standard Mk1 3 litre Capri is worth: £15k in today's market - I think not.

Trawling through the other ads there looked to be a very well sorted Mk 111 with a 5.7 litre chevy conversion for £7k. Now that's more like it.

Edited by radlet6 on Monday 10th October 18:21

that body kit is awful and the RS3100 did not wear a body kit that car cpuld have been made to look so much nicer without those arches and spoilers

[DBSV8]

the same Capri before modification ...not an RS 3100 a 3 litre GXL







info is here

zakspeed escort m2 arches fitted

http://www.restore-a-ford.co.uk/JD_Mk1Custom.html

[666 SVT]

I really like it arches and all. Buy for 10k insure for £100 classic policy no road tax to pay have fun in it
for ten years and double your money. Better return than the bank

[ktm301p]

thewheelman said:

Yes, i do want it........but at over £60k........fk no!

+1

It certainly is beautiful, but at that price - no chance!

[jellison]

Price - No chance - it ain't the real thing and it is Way to moddied from how the original was to be allowed in something like the CSCC, gearbox, wheel sizes, etc.

Maybe get half the asking, would be a reasonable guess.

[DBSV8]

666 SVT said:

I really like it arches and all. Buy for 10k insure for £100 classic policy no road tax to pay have fun in it
for ten years and double your money. Better return than the bank

err ...........its a standard 3 litre Capri with a bodykit !!!, its way overpriced and has been in the classified for a couple of years

it may have cost 15k to build but realistically its worth 6k max

[silversixx]

KM666 said:

EggsBenedict said:

Lazy journalism on the engine - usual 'big lump of yankee cast iron blah blah'. The engine in this car clearly has ally heads (just look at the photos), the block for this engine is actually pretty light - Ford pioneered a technique called 'thin wall casting' with this block. You can easily pick up a bare block on this engine with no issues at all with weight. The crank/cam/rods are no heavier than any other v8, and given the heads are made of ally, then this is again, no heavier than any other v8 of similar capacity.

Nice car, but 62K? Not on your nelly!

Shhhhhh don't tell anybody that, people like to think American engineering is 100 years behind Europes...

Steady on - I didn't actually deride the engine at all or use any of the 'big lump' or 'yankee' language. Ally heads or not though I'd still bet good money that it's significantly heavier than the motor that the car was developed with. Althgough if memory serves the Buick/Rover V8 is about the same weight as a Crossflow (anyone confirm this?).

A quick glance at my current garage will show that I'm something of a fan of American V8s and I'd have thought that my unabashed Corvette Fanboy status would give a firm indication of what I think of US engineering

[soad]

DBSV8 said:

Boy, how mean does that look..

[Simon says]

soad said:

DBSV8 said:

Boy, how mean does that look..

Would look a whole lot meaner with the GXL/RS front end as in

Edited by Simon says on Tuesday 11th October 14:50

[OllieC]

I could be wrong here, but I suspect that you couldnt build this (or any similarly specced genuine competition car) for less than the asking price, unless you were able to fit / fabricate the custom stuff yourself etc

I wouldn't spend 60k on a capri, but I dont think you can compare it to standard (albeit very mint) road cars.

[Mr Cerbera]

Gorgeous but the Wings aren't flared enough
;o)