RE: 2012 GT-R To Shave 8 Secs From 'Ring Lap-Time?

RE: 2012 GT-R To Shave 8 Secs From 'Ring Lap-Time?

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soad

32,906 posts

177 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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Luca Brasi said:
Not even remotely interested.
Not special enough?

CoupeCrazy

116 posts

152 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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scorcher said:
Instead of throwing more power at it ,I reckon it would be a better car if they put it on a diet and shaved about 300kgs off of it.
Yes, and cure cancer, world poverty and hunger while at it.


RobCrezz

7,892 posts

209 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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Luca Brasi said:
Not even remotely interested.
Why not? You must have been a little bit interested to comment on the thread hehe

jhayward1980

117 posts

215 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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What next?

Estate please.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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jhayward1980 said:
What next?

Estate please.
New Stagea..interesting

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

223 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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N4 FTW said:
scorcher said:
Instead of throwing more power at it ,I reckon it would be a better car if they put it on a diet and shaved about 300kgs off of it.
True, but in the interview the designer specifically said that the car weighed as much as it did to give 400(ish) KG of weight over each wheel as there was no way he could get a road car to generate 400kg per wheel of down force to give the grip level he wanted.

He drew an analogy between an F1 car only weighing 500KG but having several times that weight pushing down on the tyres through down force to give it grip in high speed corners.

But I do agree, light weight would be my preference! Let's see how the Juke-R does when it steps onto the scales...
bks. If it weighed less then it wouldn't need as much grip from each corner. If that was true then an overloaded white can would be the fastest thing of ever.

jhayward1980

117 posts

215 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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Or at least a roof rack I can put my bike on.

Luca Brasi

885 posts

175 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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soad said:
Not special enough?
Nope

Ryvita

714 posts

211 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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RobCrezz said:
Why not? You must have been a little bit interested to comment on the thread hehe
"Hate is a force of attraction. Hate is just love with its back turned."

Pertinent in this case I think. smile (Bonus geek marks to anyone that knows where that comes from.)

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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Luca Brasi said:
Nope


What's better for 70k?

CoupeCrazy

116 posts

152 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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ZeeTacoe said:
bks. If it weighed less then it wouldn't need as much grip from each corner. If that was true then an overloaded white can would be the fastest thing of ever.
You are wrong, sorry.




harryowl

1,114 posts

182 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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Dagnut said:


What's better for 70k?
I would probably have an Evora S over one.

scorcher

3,986 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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N4 FTW said:
scorcher said:
Instead of throwing more power at it ,I reckon it would be a better car if they put it on a diet and shaved about 300kgs off of it.
True, but in the interview the designer specifically said that the car weighed as much as it did to give 400(ish) KG of weight over each wheel as there was no way he could get a road car to generate 400kg per wheel of down force to give the grip level he wanted.

He drew an analogy between an F1 car only weighing 500KG but having several times that weight pushing down on the tyres through down force to give it grip in high speed corners.

But I do agree, light weight would be my preference! Let's see how the Juke-R does when it steps onto the scales...
Plenty of much lighter cars out there going around corners ok.If it grips ok why does it need all the onboard computers to keep it on the road.Obviously needs some better aeodynamic downforce if its relying on weight.Probably can't make it lighter due to the 800kgs of wiring running around the car.

Luca Brasi

885 posts

175 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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Dagnut said:


What's better for 70k?
Probably nothing but I don't care about a car's Ring laptime when I buy one.

There's no doubt that it's an extremely impressive piece of engineering that puts a lot of its competitors to shame but I don't fancy one; it's not particularly good looking (imo) and that interior is not worthy of a 70k car.

CoupeCrazy

116 posts

152 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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scorcher said:
Plenty of much lighter cars out there going around corners ok.If it grips ok why does it need all the onboard computers to keep it on the road.Obviously needs some better aeodynamic downforce if its relying on weight.Probably can't make it lighter due to the 800kgs of wiring running around the car.
You are clearly not thinking before you post.

800 kilos of wiring?

Dion20vt

252 posts

163 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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Want.... But then... my fave GT-R would be the R34 V-spec in bayside blue please biggrin Dont see many of them anymore... well, not up here anyway!!

s2000db

1,155 posts

154 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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Do the brakes and drive train still melt after 15mins?


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LooneyTunes

6,865 posts

159 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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Dagnut said:
Luca Brasi said:
Nope


What's better for 70k?
If it were my money and I wanted to make progress on road and track: E60 M5 + Caterham R500

Sure, you can track a GT-R but the costs of doing so are apparently eye watering. And having been in both GT-R and fast 7s, I know which I'd find more satisfying on track... electronics would just take the edge off the whole thing.

scorcher

3,986 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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CoupeCrazy said:
scorcher said:
Plenty of much lighter cars out there going around corners ok.If it grips ok why does it need all the onboard computers to keep it on the road.Obviously needs some better aeodynamic downforce if its relying on weight.Probably can't make it lighter due to the 800kgs of wiring running around the car.
You are clearly not thinking before you post.

800 kilos of wiring?
Sorry,forget the wink Bet theres a fair bit in there though.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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harryowl said:
I would probably have an Evora S over one.
Good shout I'd be happy with an Evora S no doubt..but a GTR is a pretty special car, how many do you see around?