RE: Driven: Ferrari 250 GTO Replica
Discussion
Jimmy No Hands said:
I saw a replica a year ago or so near me, looked and sounded quite nice.
This is so clearly a replica though... Am I the only one that sees that?Cobra replica tend to be very close to the original as the drawings that are used are taken (mostly) from the originals.
GT40's look pretty good for the same reason as above.
But this "250 GTO" isn't anywhere near the proportions of the real deal.. Also, check out the one below. WHY????! It looks ridiculous!
There can never be any excuse for destroying an original Ferrari to make a replica of another Ferrari. It's just not on. I dare say you could get Ferrari to build you a replica themselves, or even buy parts from them over time and get a metal-shop to build the frame and body. The stories of even the prototype 330GTE and four-light 330GT being cut up send chills of horror down the spine of anyone with an ounce of respect for historic artefacts. It simply highlights the astonishing selfishness and arrogance of the individuals concerned. I would hope that any such butchered "replica" turning up at Maranello or any of their concessionaires would be repossessed, sent to Ferrari Classiche to be returned to its original spec and the bill sent to the owner and pursued through the courts if necessary. Somehow, some day, the scum responsible for this destruction of already rare, historic and precious cars will learn their lesson. The harder and more unpleasant it is for them, the better.
RoverP6B said:
There can never be any excuse for destroying an original Ferrari to make a replica of another Ferrari. It's just not on. I dare say you could get Ferrari to build you a replica themselves, or even buy parts from them over time and get a metal-shop to build the frame and body. The stories of even the prototype 330GTE and four-light 330GT being cut up send chills of horror down the spine of anyone with an ounce of respect for historic artefacts. It simply highlights the astonishing selfishness and arrogance of the individuals concerned. I would hope that any such butchered "replica" turning up at Maranello or any of their concessionaires would be repossessed, sent to Ferrari Classiche to be returned to its original spec and the bill sent to the owner and pursued through the courts if necessary. Somehow, some day, the scum responsible for this destruction of already rare, historic and precious cars will learn their lesson. The harder and more unpleasant it is for them, the better.
Your English is much improved Sr Montezemolo! 
It is a curious thing, the construction of cars like this. I have been approached several times over the last three years since a 250GTE tub popped up in a group of interesting barn finds. All the dealers really wanted was identities, so our tub was as good as worth little without one - had been pillaged for that already! Apparently someone was trying to get a dozen GTEs together to build a run of GTO replicas. I think that this process would have started by using miserable down-at-heel GTEs that had little prospect of restoration, but there is of course a risk of all kinds of skullduggery!
RoverP6B said:
There can never be any excuse for destroying an original Ferrari to make a replica of another Ferrari. It's just not on. I dare say you could get Ferrari to build you a replica themselves, or even buy parts from them over time and get a metal-shop to build the frame and body. The stories of even the prototype 330GTE and four-light 330GT being cut up send chills of horror down the spine of anyone with an ounce of respect for historic artefacts. It simply highlights the astonishing selfishness and arrogance of the individuals concerned. I would hope that any such butchered "replica" turning up at Maranello or any of their concessionaires would be repossessed, sent to Ferrari Classiche to be returned to its original spec and the bill sent to the owner and pursued through the courts if necessary. Somehow, some day, the scum responsible for this destruction of already rare, historic and precious cars will learn their lesson. The harder and more unpleasant it is for them, the better.
How about buying a crashed GTE and getting that used?And what would the difference be with a "real" GTO?
I was admiring an Alfa TZ1 from up close some weeks ago. It was one of the "genuine" ones, from a serial number perspective at least. I dear say it had no part on it that was older than 5 years. Same with those GTO's, they look as if new while they supposedly have been racing for 50 years on end. So how original are they?
In the early '80s when I started buying classic car magazines 250GTEs were about £8,000. I dreamed of saving up for one. Now they've almost all been sacrificed on the replica altar and we've destroyed one of the most usable, elegant and affordable Ferrari ever built.
Other than the 'look at me' thing, what is the point? RIP 250GTE.
Other than the 'look at me' thing, what is the point? RIP 250GTE.
Mr Gear said:
BUT IT'S NOT A REAL FERRARI! WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO USE THE BADGES!?! IT SHOULD BE CRUSHED AND THE OWNER PUT IN JAIL FOR FRAUD! 
Etc etc.
I know, Mr. Gear, your comment is just meant to be a joke! :-) Etc etc.
However, there are many people who actually argue like etc., etc., etc. :-)
Sorry to say, Sir, but these people are enormous id..ts, if I max say...! First, what does it change THEIR life whether there are replicas (which make A LOT OF SENSE because one also does not hang up the "Mona Lisa" in ones living room but a print or replicated painting that hurts NOBODY!) Secondly, who bothers whether there is a badge on or someone adds one later or leaves it off entirely...
It is about the fum to drive such a machine without risking to put an original in danger that indeed has all the history and original material. If you restore an original to concours standards and/or fix damages from racing accidents and have engine rebuilds you sooner or later end up with something that is closer to a replica than the original "Original"...
And as long nobody tries to sell a replica as an original, which can be easily checked by chemical analysis of the used materials there is no such thing as fraud...! Pardon me...
And if there are replicas they have never ever hurt the value of the known originals which always is cited as the main argument. Just watch the auction market... (and then they better shut up.)
So, they better calm down, grab a tea and relax... They probably will neither be able to effort an original NOR a replica. So what does it matter to them in the first place, then...?
Their opinion, here just taken as a general example (and not to be meant personal !) is making me sick because it comes up over and over again from people with no clear reasoning. No wonder, there is NOT one logical reason for it. So, sorry to say but WTF...!
Patents expire after 30 years! Otherwise we still had a monopoly on light bulbs and telephones of EDISON, or there would be no competition in the tires market or combustion engines or what ever. Every pharmaceutical medicine can be legally copied after 30 years of earnings known as generica... Why, on earth, Ferrari should have an eternal copyright on a form that was developed longer than 30 years ago??? AND THEY DO NOT GET HARMED in any way because they DO NOT EARN any money on it any more...! This is one of the reasons why I do not like Ferrari because they just like to make life of normal enthusiasts difficult for NO obvious reason. It is just an EGO thing.
Ferrari' s attitude is just an outdated one...
Look at Jaguar. They are TOTALLY relaxed about C-Type, D-Type and even XJ 13 replicas...! Or there are a lot of 356 speester, RS 550, RS 718 and 904 PORSCHE replicas around... and many people have great fum with these cars...! Does this hurt PORSCHE ? No! That' s a very nice attitude of these companies. And from time to time you see such replicas in use on public roads. It makes people smile and look and bring up their memories. THIS is FREE ADVERTISEMENT and keeps these cars in the minds of people and EVERYBODY is happy. Sir, that' s what live is all about...!
So, now they can try to convince me of THEIR point of view...!
I do have to say I LOVE replicas. But I guess that' s what you expected... ;-)
Edited by vintageracer01 on Tuesday 5th August 22:09
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