RE: Driven: Ferrari 250 GTO Replica

RE: Driven: Ferrari 250 GTO Replica

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Stevie Mojo

1,519 posts

236 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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treetops said:
Fakes devalue any brand.

Who rejoices in the build quality of a fake Burberry handbag? It just devalues it for everyone else - whenever you see one you just think - thats a fake!

Why are we rejoicing over what are in effect counterfeit goods - no matter how good they may / may not look?

This one may be a Ferrari but its not the real thing its purported to be. And there are plenty of other conversions that are blatant fakes. I do wonder whether PH should even be hosting them for sale on the website classifieds??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/29/intern...

If can't afford one you can't have one - problem is society nowadays doesn't live to this mantra.

Its very sad.

(If one were to ignore all the above the car is pleasent to behold)
hehe Lighten up man!

pork911

7,087 posts

182 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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I thought the point of the real ones were you can / should drive / race them because if you crash it is worth repairing?

GT2CS

657 posts

168 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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RESSE said:
A couple of pictures of a GTO replica at Loton Park (2007):
If I remember correctly, there was a 240Z/260Z based "kit" available some years ago?
Nice but those fog lights are the wrong shape- they should be rectangular and much smaller

F1GTRUeno

6,335 posts

217 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Ex Boy Racer said:
No problems with replicas as such. Seems a shame that a 250 GTE was destroyed in the process though
Yeah I was gonna say, I'd rather not use Ferrari mechanicals/base if it means destroying an original car. The GTE is gorgeous in it's own right as well.

RESSE

5,692 posts

220 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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GT2CS said:
Nice but those fog lights are the wrong shape- they should be rectangular and much smaller
Yep, also (blindingly obvious but I hadn't notice before) it is right hand drive.

avhbi

104 posts

187 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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RESSE said:
Yep, also (blindingly obvious but I hadn't notice before) it is right hand drive.
There was an original RHD 250 GTO and a 330 GTO........

The Danimal

178 posts

154 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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rob.e said:
I would actually choose this over the real thing (major lottery win permitting of course) and be happy in the knowledge I can drive it anytime i want and not worry (as much!).

A lovely thing.

smile
I agree. I'd rather have this and enjoy driving it. I'd leave the 'real' ones to the collectors.

Strangely though. I always think cars look much better when they're not as shiny and have some bumps and scrapes.

RESSE

5,692 posts

220 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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avhbi said:
There was an original RHD 250 GTO and a 330 GTO........
Thank you - I didn't know that (good pub "ammo").

JohnGoodridge

529 posts

194 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Schnellmann said:
treetops said:
Fakes devalue any brand.

Who rejoices in the build quality of a fake Burberry handbag? It just devalues it for everyone else - whenever you see one you just think - thats a fake!

Why are we rejoicing over what are in effect counterfeit goods - no matter how good they may / may not look?

This one may be a Ferrari but its not the real thing its purported to be. And there are plenty of other conversions that are blatant fakes. I do wonder whether PH should even be hosting them for sale on the website classifieds??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/29/intern...

If can't afford one you can't have one - problem is society nowadays doesn't live to this mantra.

Its very sad.

(If one were to ignore all the above the car is pleasent to behold)
IMO there is a world of difference between this GTO replica, based on a same-period Ferrari using Ferrari parts and a fake Burberry handbag. The former not just looks like the original but presumably drives fairly close to one, allowing the owner the possibility of having almost the same experience. Not being a handbag freak I assume a fake is much poorer quality (although having written that I'm not so sure as the mark-up on such branded goods might just be the design and brand name and not because the quality of the materials is much better).

I do wonder whether it is right that a historic Ferrari, in its own right, is used to make the replica.

It isn't just a question of can one afford it. If there were only 39 originals then there is a problem of supply in that you have to convince one of the current owners to sell, if you want one. Not always easy.

My dream car is an original 2.7 RS but now that the good ones are £200k plus they are becoming too expensive to buy and use. A replica based on an early 911 at a quarter of the price but with 95% of the look and feel seems like a better option to me.
Yup, can't say that all the GT40 and Shelby replicas have done the original any harm either. Heck even all those 'tribute' bands (mostly) stand alongside the original enhancing it's kudos.

I see these ferrari-made-over-into-ferrari homages as just that, an homage that stands alongside the original rather than a cheap knock-off that undermines it.

Davey S2

13,075 posts

253 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Rawwr said:
As much as I love the 250GTO, it's lesser-known brother, the 250LM, is the one I'd kill for.
250 SWB for me please.

DJRC

23,563 posts

235 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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It just annoys me that GTEs get destroyed. The GTE was a great design!

varsas

4,004 posts

201 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Davey S2 said:
Rawwr said:
As much as I love the 250GTO, it's lesser-known brother, the 250LM, is the one I'd kill for.
250 SWB for me please.
Fine, I'll take a GT lusso then.

I'm also of the opinion that destroying a GTE to make it is a real shame. I'd rather have a real GTE then a fake GTO.

Monty Zoomer

1,459 posts

156 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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I'd like a GTO but I haven't got £20 million going spare at the moment. I've got a £20 note though, so if I photocopy it a million times can I buy this counterfeit car with the counterfeit £20 notes?

That's what it's worth.

Now, what about those Locost pretend Sevens then? smile

jem993

81 posts

179 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Nice, but at the end of the day it's a replica / kit car no matter what's under the bonnet

Anyway 250 GTE is beautiful & lest we forget was the preferred transport of Enzo himself !

RPastry

357 posts

189 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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I hate bolt-on bodykit 'replicas'; the 250 includes Datsun 240 or Porsche 944 based kits usually with a owner drowning under the weight of his ferrari emblazeoned merchandise. Depressing.

HOWEVER a ground-up recreation is a completely different beast; It looks right and probably drives better than the original. Big respect to the enthusiasts that want to keep this kind of sculpture in motion.


Richair

1,021 posts

196 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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There really does need to be an '11' rating reserved for cars like this...

I'm usually part of the anti-replica brigade, but there's a group of very limited original cars that I think it's all good to recreate. I.E. those historic racers that only a handful of were built and the genuine articles cost £M's...

Still, I can't imagine this is exactly a cheap replica!

Oelholm

321 posts

184 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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nonuts said:
Mr Gear said:
BUT IT'S NOT A REAL FERRARI! WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO USE THE BADGES!?! IT SHOULD BE CRUSHED AND THE OWNER PUT IN JAIL FOR FRAUD! cursefuriousmadranting

Etc etc.
But the one in the article IS a real Ferrari.
- I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that it's sarcasm...

Don't really care for replicas, and I think that the 250 SW and 250 Lusso are much prettier.

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

177 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Nothing wrong at all with this 'modified' 250GTE. If that's what somebody wants good on them, and of course one couldn't dismiss the 300k-v-20m price difference. I really don't see how this 250 'GTO' can be knocked in anyway.

Personally, I don't know how keen I would be modifing an original GTE to get a rep GTO, difficult call in some respects, mind you from an esthetic point of view the rep GTO wins hands down.





AV12

5,305 posts

207 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Want. Whilst I accept the point of order regarding "it's not real" and "spoiling the marque", to me these are irrelevant. One of these genuine costs £25m or there abouts.

I'd love one and I would probably love the 6.0 V12 from the Enzo aboard as well.


Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

177 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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AV12 said:
I'd love one and I would probably love the 6.0 V12 from the Enzo aboard as well.
You'd be seen as anarchist by those chaps in the FOC! biggrin

Edited by Johnboy Mac on Friday 28th October 13:50