RE: Lotus Finally Gets Government Cash
Discussion
rallycross said:
If it helps keep people employed its great news, if they were developing a new affordable british built sports car (like Elise, Caterham, Ginetta, TVR etc) it would be even better news.
But the money is being invested into Danny Bahar's vanity project, 'pipe dream' £100k cars that no one will want to buy and when the Malaysian money runs out and Mr Bahar and his cronies have all left the bank balance empty there wont be much left saving.
Oh wow, how much will the next Elise be? You seem to be someone in the know...But the money is being invested into Danny Bahar's vanity project, 'pipe dream' £100k cars that no one will want to buy and when the Malaysian money runs out and Mr Bahar and his cronies have all left the bank balance empty there wont be much left saving.
Most people are sceptical about the Lotus new line up, emerging on time or at all. Is there any update on the progress of the new Esprit, Eclat, Elan etc ????
I really hope that by 2014 the UK has these home grown supercars being built (partly) in Britain by (some) British people.
I think many moaners posting on here are actually Lotus fans that are p!ssed with Lotus / Bahr for the percieved waste of money and brand deflation in dodgy advertising / promoting using celebrities, and any other means.
I really hope that by 2014 the UK has these home grown supercars being built (partly) in Britain by (some) British people.
I think many moaners posting on here are actually Lotus fans that are p!ssed with Lotus / Bahr for the percieved waste of money and brand deflation in dodgy advertising / promoting using celebrities, and any other means.
Froomee said:
I wish Lotus all the best. Its good to see jobs staying in the UK and hopefully they will produce some interesting models in the next few years.
I wish Lotus well too, however I somehow doubt that Lotus would have upped sticks and moved elsewhere if they hadn't got this assistance.It appears that Bentley, Calsonic Kansei, and Zytec got a helping hand too.
rallycross said:
If it helps keep people employed its great news, if they were developing a new affordable british built sports car (like Elise, Caterham, Ginetta, TVR etc) it would be even better news.
But the money is being invested into Danny Bahar's vanity project, 'pipe dream' £100k cars that no one will want to buy and when the Malaysian money runs out and Mr Bahar and his cronies have all left the bank balance empty there wont be much left saving.
Of course you mean apart from the new Elise that has been in the plan from the start ( at a reasonable price)and the new exige v6 that will be in showrooms by january and the new Evora models and the ethos city car. I mean you wouldn't just ignore those for the sake of it or make a comment like that without knowing what you're on about would you? You were just in a rush and wanted a helpful chap to come along and help out. Lucky you I'm a helpful soul!But the money is being invested into Danny Bahar's vanity project, 'pipe dream' £100k cars that no one will want to buy and when the Malaysian money runs out and Mr Bahar and his cronies have all left the bank balance empty there wont be much left saving.
I am also someone who is able to buy one of these blasted 100k pipe dream cars and have every intention of doing so, guess I must be nobody. A nobody like me would probably be closely following development and excited to see the new bespoke v8 engine already built and run up to speed by Wolf Zimmerman and his team of on schedule hard working pipe dreamers.
Those crazy cats at Lotus securing up to 2000 new British manufacturing jobs, and I thought they were sitting at home spouting I'll informed bile at their countrymen who dare to try and succeed. Who knew?
cathalm said:
Of course you mean apart from the new Elise that has been in the plan from the start ( at a reasonable price)and the new exige v6 that will be in showrooms by january and the new Evora models and the ethos city car. I mean you wouldn't just ignore those for the sake of it or make a comment like that without knowing what you're on about would you? You were just in a rush and wanted a helpful chap to come along and help out. Lucky you I'm a helpful soul!
I am also someone who is able to buy one of these blasted 100k pipe dream cars and have every intention of doing so, guess I must be nobody. A nobody like me would probably be closely following development and excited to see the new bespoke v8 engine already built and run up to speed by Wolf Zimmerman and his team of on schedule hard working pipe dreamers.
Those crazy cats at Lotus securing up to 2000 new British manufacturing jobs, and I thought they were sitting at home spouting I'll informed bile at their countrymen who dare to try and succeed. Who knew?
Don't worry Cathalm - some of us get it. I am also someone who is able to buy one of these blasted 100k pipe dream cars and have every intention of doing so, guess I must be nobody. A nobody like me would probably be closely following development and excited to see the new bespoke v8 engine already built and run up to speed by Wolf Zimmerman and his team of on schedule hard working pipe dreamers.
Those crazy cats at Lotus securing up to 2000 new British manufacturing jobs, and I thought they were sitting at home spouting I'll informed bile at their countrymen who dare to try and succeed. Who knew?
I'm not in a position to buy one of Lotus' dream cars brand new (or even a base spec Evora, for that matter...) but I recognise there are those lucky enough who can, and will. More importantly, I understand the bigger picture - many of these new era customers will (assuming worldwide type approval is achieved) be the nouveau riche of Russia, China, India and South America, where all the buying power is these days.
All power to them (but please, please Lotus retain a sub £40k range if at all possible, pretty please!
) Some people on this site are unbelievable.
It's like they want Lotus to go bust so they can come on here and say "Told you so".
£10m might be a drop in the ocean to the likes of Ford or VW. £10m will go a lot further at lotus.
Glad they got the money. Can't wait for the new cars to into production.
It's like they want Lotus to go bust so they can come on here and say "Told you so".
£10m might be a drop in the ocean to the likes of Ford or VW. £10m will go a lot further at lotus.
Glad they got the money. Can't wait for the new cars to into production.
We could of course wait untill all manufacturing has left the UK and we can then rely on banking and.........? to support our economy.
The UK and Europe will surely perish without manufacturing. Great news. Hope they end up producing 50,000 cars a year and putting any manufacturer bought by the chinese out of business.
The UK and Europe will surely perish without manufacturing. Great news. Hope they end up producing 50,000 cars a year and putting any manufacturer bought by the chinese out of business.
Whilst I'm not particulary against this, doesn't it seem strange in the current economic climate environmentally concious time to give tax payers money to money to a car manufacturer to produce luxury and polluting cars! But anyway, probably better used at Lotus than most other things taxpayers money gets spent on.
Frimley111R said:
Jesus. What a miserable load of moaning f
kers half you lot are! £10m of good news, Lotus following their plan, everything on track, some great talent at Hethel and some fantsastic new cars on the way and still people moan FFS!
Well said. PH posters seems to bash anything that comes out of Hethel. This is good news, not just for Lotus, but for Norfolk in general. kers half you lot are! £10m of good news, Lotus following their plan, everything on track, some great talent at Hethel and some fantsastic new cars on the way and still people moan FFS!Lotus is a big employer for the East of England, the infrastructure which involves many other companies and suppliers, which indirectly will benefit.
All you lot can think of is "ooh, there's another car with an extra painted stripe on it" That's old news with the old management.
Before you say it, yes some of the stuff that's been in the press recently coming from Hethel does seem odd, but it's done what it's meant to do. Get the Lotus name noticed outside the normal realms of the Automotive world.
Charge99 said:
Whilst I'm not particulary against this, doesn't it seem strange in the current economic climate environmentally concious time to give tax payers money to money to a car manufacturer to produce luxury and polluting cars! But anyway, probably better used at Lotus than most other things taxpayers money gets spent on.
I think the gvt is doing the right thing in focusing on hi-tech specialised niche manufacturers. This is where we can really ad value and something that Britain is actually very good at. For instance look at the sheer amount of Technology connected on Formula 1 based here.No doubt carbon ofsetting rules will require Lotus cover Norfolk in Forests and build at least 10,000 cars made of pine needles.
Junglehop said:
Charge99 said:
Whilst I'm not particulary against this, doesn't it seem strange in the current economic climate environmentally concious time to give tax payers money to money to a car manufacturer to produce luxury and polluting cars! But anyway, probably better used at Lotus than most other things taxpayers money gets spent on.
I think the gvt is doing the right thing in focusing on hi-tech specialised niche manufacturers. This is where we can really ad value and something that Britain is actually very good at. For instance look at the sheer amount of Technology connected on Formula 1 based here.No doubt carbon ofsetting rules will require Lotus cover Norfolk in Forests and build at least 10,000 cars made of pine needles.
The generous Feed In Tarrif offered by the Government was to kick start the home solar movement.It was never promised to remain past next April anyhow .....in my view it was a well thought out and executed move to offer it for a short time only ..
Job well done Mr Cameron !
Nothing lasts forever
And WELL DONE LOTUS
Job well done Mr Cameron !
Nothing lasts forever
And WELL DONE LOTUS
Edited by jfk01 on Monday 31st October 23:30
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