RE: SOTW: BMW 750iL (E32)

RE: SOTW: BMW 750iL (E32)

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Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Mouse1903 said:
Looking at that interior (and many other 80's BMW interiors) shows how ahead of their time they were. Barely looks dated. Great looking car. LPG conversion is the way forward
I love the shifter. It looks like something from an aircraft! And not like a dodgy lollipop like some Jaguar and automatic Ford Escort shifters do.

handbraketurn

1,371 posts

166 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Would it make any sense to convert a big ol' v12 to LPG?

bazking69

8,620 posts

190 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Proper SOTW!

will261058

1,115 posts

192 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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I like it. Is a grand a lot of money? Well it could be, its all relative of course depending how much you have got.

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

206 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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handbraketurn said:
Would it make any sense to convert a big ol' v12 to LPG?
Not really, for the reasons given earlier by several.

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Zwoelf said:
urquattro said:
I keep a 500 sel (1985) although only a 4 speed auto V8 is does not have the limp home issue as electonics are basic and a long life auto box that even went into next series. The later S500 I had was sold due to its incredible complexity and future problems.
I found the same when looking at E32s and E38s and is a factor in why on balance, I took the older model each time. It also feels a bit lighter on its feet and drives more like a bigger 3er than the E38 does. To me, it's just a more grown up E30.

urquattro said:
Also have a V12 XJS and that can be another can of worms, but if you know somebody who understands them and they (like BMW, have not been overheated) are very reliable and good driving fun - especially when a five speed gearbox change done.
Five speed auto? Or change to manual? I've long hankered for a Jag V12, but always come away underwhelmed by the relative lack of performance that one would expect compared to the theoretically less powerful biggest six.
Used A6 Eng. twin throttle bodies, twr ecu etc ,removed front box (non cat car) plus getrag five speed conversion (from xjs 3.6 manual) = 300 bhp plus and a totally different car from the three speed auto, it will now pull the revs ok.

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

206 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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urquattro said:
Used A6 Eng. twin throttle bodies, twr ecu etc ,removed front box (non cat car) plus getrag five speed conversion (from xjs 3.6 manual) = 300 bhp plus and a totally different car from the three speed auto, it will now pull the revs ok.
Sounds excellent - as you say, a very different animal from the standard variety. thumbup

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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renorti said:
can't really see why anybody would even want one?
V12 engines have a unique driving experience, not easily forgotten or dumped once you are used to them, I think, that is why someone will always buy this car and take a chance on the reliability.
Fuel tax is the issue, these cars were wafting around on fuel at about £2 or so per gallon.

Goodfella 555

199 posts

168 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Anyone else noticed that when sotw is on form like this week, a better thread ensues? Everyone generally gets on and even varying opinions on alloys etc is dealt with respect. Stick a pile of s up for sotw and everyone goes ape s**t, lada 4x4 is better off road than a landie oh no it isn't you d**k etc etc dear oh dear.

MadDog1962

890 posts

162 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Wonderful shed. Probably worth a gamble as long as it's in really good nick. Insurance would be an issue for many though. I tend to agree about the addictive V12 experience. My father bought an immaculate 10 year old Daimler Double 6 back in 1988. He still can't bear to part with it even though it hasn't run since about 1993! The replacement was a 1 year old Mercedes 300E (itself a fine machine). He keeps saying that the Benz was not half the car the Daimler was, and that V12 lump was what did most of it I reckon. But if something major goes bang then this shed would likely be headed straight to the specialist breaker for cannibalization.

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Zwoelf said:
Sounds excellent - as you say, a very different animal from the standard variety. thumbup


No matter how good they were, they still rust out - hence this restoration of metalwork !!

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

206 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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From the £1-5k smoker barge thread, a new entrant: another E32 750iL for sale by auction with an (extremely optimistic IMO) estimate of £1,400-1,800.

http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19292/lot/359/#

listing said:
First registered on 23rd February 1988, this 750i saloon has had only one owner, having been supplied new to Gabriel Holding Ltd for the use of one of the company's executives. We are advised that the service book has been lost but it is known that GH Ltd was using BMW Park Lane and BMW Holland Park for routine servicing. There are 14 related invoices on file covering the period 2nd February 1995 (at 64,451 miles) to 8th April 2011 (137,955 miles). The current mileage (19th October 2011) is 137,977 miles. Finished in Dolphin Grey with Buffalo leather interior, this iconic modern BMW comes with the aforementioned invoices, original bill of sale, current road fund licence, MoT to 21st January 2012 and Swansea V5C registration document. No reserve.

Bogracer

438 posts

207 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Super smooth, does anyone remember the ad where a 50p was balanced on the rocket cover?

david_b

413 posts

243 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Bogracer said:
Super smooth, does anyone remember the ad where a 50p was balanced on the rocket cover?
One of the Bentley guys was demoing this on a running Continental W12 engine at Goodwood last year - my snap below smile


Goodwood Festival of Speed 2010 by david_b, on Flickr

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Luca Brasi said:
morgrp said:
Those wheels are HIDEOUS!
Standard spec on the V12
Love those alloys aswell - quite rare, standard only for a year (vast majority E regs)
Jon Lord , co founder of Deep Purple had one of the first 750iLs in UK

Edited by tali1 on Saturday 5th November 00:16

Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

199 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Zwoelf said:
danielw said:
Interesting this, how do you identify an E38 750i Sport over a regular E38 750i? Were all SWB 750i's sports?
No they weren't - and the same way the Sports are differentiated against the standard models in all the other engines.

Full body colour coding, dechromed window surrounds, staggered 18" M Parallel alloys, S-EDC suspension in the case of the V12s (sports suspension for other models), anthracite headlining, contour seats, M steering wheel and a higher stall speed torque converter and slightly lower ratio differential.

Factory Sport models are 2001MY (roughly 00X reg) onwards, prior to that it was just the standard 750i although there was a cosmetic sport pack upgrade for the earlier cars and most of the above were available as individually available cost options.
Can you actually get a genuine 750i Sport? I had a an absolute last of the line 740i Sport which was an amazing machine.

I thought the sport variant came in 740i specification only and was made 200-2001.


dbdb

4,326 posts

173 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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urquattro said:


No matter how good they were, they still rust out - hence this restoration of metalwork !!
Strange to say, but I think Revolver alloys work on everything but the XK8. This is the first time I've seen them on an XJ-S and they look great.

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

206 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Dr Imran T said:
Can you actually get a genuine 750i Sport? I had a an absolute last of the line 740i Sport which was an amazing machine.

I thought the sport variant came in 740i specification only and was made 2000-2001.
You can have a 728i, 735i, 740i or 750i Sport, it was limited to short wheelbase variants, not by engine choice.

http://www.gmscars.co.uk/bmw_750_sport_greydetails...




http://www.gmscars.co.uk/bmw_750_sport_black-detai...



urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Zwoelf said:
You can have a 728i, 735i, 740i or 750i Sport, it was limited to short wheelbase variants, not by engine choice.

http://www.gmscars.co.uk/bmw_750_sport_greydetails...




http://www.gmscars.co.uk/bmw_750_sport_black-detai...


This late one is my kind of car, very special and prefer the short wheelbase if possible as the hideous length and width of my 1994 S500 destroyed any real pleasure in driving it apart from motorways, it was a parking nightmare and soundtimes when got into a slot between two cars in std. parking slot the door would not open enough to get out.
It went........................frown

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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urquattro said:
Zwoelf said:
You can have a 728i, 735i, 740i or 750i Sport, it was limited to short wheelbase variants, not by engine choice.
...photos...
This late one is my kind of car, very special and prefer the short wheelbase if possible as the hideous length and width of my 1994 S500 destroyed any real pleasure in driving it apart from motorways, it was a parking nightmare and soundtimes when got into a slot between two cars in std. parking slot the door would not open enough to get out.
It went........................frown
The E38 iL has parking sensors front and back.