RE: Pic Of The Week: Proper Lotus F1
Discussion
Chunkychucky said:
Yeah so sad. Still, the fact that Petersen had to qualify with full fuel tanks and a tempremental development gearbox in his car, and yet still managed to nearly match Andretti for pace says it all really. The good old days when drivers use to drive more than just F1 cars too.
Agreed that a) this is a fabulous picture that is evocative of a great era if the sport and b) Ronnie was a genius. But surely you can't begrudge Mario his championship. If ever a driver deserved a WDC as a reward for being a master of so many forms of racing surely Mario wouldn't be far behind Stirling. And being a very cool dude whilst doing it...If there's any doubt check out Speed Merchants on YouTube or DVD.
andrew said:
given the ratio of front to rear tyre sizes, how come all the oversteer ?
Cos a 72 didn't create much downforce (by modern standards, although was good in its era) and the power/grip ratio favoured the former. Add in a driver renowned for his sublime throttle and steering balance and there you go, oversteer on a stick.
2volvos said:
And to think Mad Max used to say that fans wanted F1 to be like a game of chess...
Some years ago I went to the Science Museum to look at an Alfa exhibition & there was a film running of the T33-s in the Targa Florio. The movement of the car on the road was amazing by modern standards, exiting the corner it was nose up, tail down & car drifting sideways. Respect, lets scrap the aero and then we can see who can drive.andyps said:
Definitely my favourite F1 car. A great picture, the only thing for me is that, with all due respect to Ronnie Peterson, I always associate that car with Emerson Fittipaldi and therefore a black and red helmet.
Sorry, a black and gold 72 on opposite lock can only truly be associated with Superswede. Ronnie Peterson joined Lotus in 1973 as Emerson Fittipaldi's team-mate. Although Emmo was reigning champion, Ronnie was the faster driver, taking 9 poles that year. If he'd had better reliability then he'd have won the championship. It was a travesty that a driver like him didn't get the world title his skill deserved.
HorneyMX5 said:
GregE240 said:
Very grainy at high res sadly.
Not surprising baring in mind it would have been shot with a high ASA film. If only they'd had 20 megapixel digital cameras in the early 70's!nick
Peterson was my hero as a kid - The way older people go on about Clark and younger ones Senna, I can remember being utterly stunned to hear that he'd died from leg injuries at Monza.
Thanks to PH for posting the image.
M.
Edited by marcosgt on Saturday 5th November 15:54
Several historic Lotus Formula cars were on track at Fuji Speedway last weekend:
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/11/02/event-g...
Walking from Piquet's Camel Lotus back through time past Senna's first F1 car, the (banned) twin chassis JPS/Essex, a type 78 JPS, a type 65, a 41... I had an epiphany.
F1 design has been stuck in reverse for 50 years.
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/11/02/event-g...
Walking from Piquet's Camel Lotus back through time past Senna's first F1 car, the (banned) twin chassis JPS/Essex, a type 78 JPS, a type 65, a 41... I had an epiphany.
F1 design has been stuck in reverse for 50 years.
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