Are modern headlights too bright?

Are modern headlights too bright?

Poll: Are modern headlights too bright?

Total Members Polled: 878

Yes: 65%
No: 35%
Author
Discussion

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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Saleen836 said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread?
But another annoying problem is the idiots who put in replacement headlight bulbs upside down! They are also too stupid to realise the problem even when following you and can clearly see they are lighting up the whole inside of your vehicle.
Upside down? Every D2S xenon, H7, or H4 bulb I've ever changed can only fit in the lamp one way. What you describe is usually an alignment problem, on older cars generally.

budgie smuggler

5,379 posts

159 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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Tankman104c said:
I'm taking my Yeti into the main dealer service department tomorrow to get my headlight alignment checked because I'm always getting flashed at when I'm on dipped beam! You can clearly see the dip beam shining into an oncoming car with any slight rise in the road. I bet I know what they will say!
Do you not have beam level adjustment you can click down a notch?

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Bumpáge...

Can't help but think many cars have dipped settings were the aim is too high, or there's something wrong with modern lights.

I've often found myself flashing oncoming vehicles on straight, level roads because I'm pretty much blinded, and thought they had their full beams on.
They then decide to flash their lights in response & I'm proven wrong.

I'm not talking about dipped lights that are a bit annoying, I'm talking newish cars with dipped beams that mean my peripheral vision is pretty much non-existent and I'm squinting to concentrate on the road ahead.

My eyesight's fine, btw.


Edited by zygalski on Sunday 17th December 09:01

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Not for me. Assuming it’s an OEM properly adjusted I have never had a problem with it.

FiF

44,061 posts

251 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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zygalski said:
Bumpáge...

Can't help but think many cars have dipped settings were the aim is too high, or there's something wrong with modern lights.

I've often found myself flashing oncoming vehicles on straight, level roads because I'm pretty much blinded, and thought they had their full beams on.
They then decide to flash their lights in response & I'm proven wrong.

I'm not talking about dipped lights that are a bit annoying, I'm talking newish cars with dipped beams that mean my peripheral vision is pretty much non-existent and I'm squinting to concentrate on the road ahead.

My eyesight's fine, btw.


Edited by zygalski on Sunday 17th December 09:01
May have said this earlier in the thread but can sympathise with this view, partly anyway.

Suspect a significant part of the issue is the very sharp cut off, so any slight imperfection or brow in the road and you get the full intensity of the beam, whereas with incandescent lamps the intensity tails off towards the edges. Many is the time I think I've been flashed, yet it's just that they have driven over a small bump.

Jonnny

29,397 posts

189 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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My wife's Audi A1 Xenon Headlamps are ridiculous if she's following you, when you're driving it they seem about right for distance to cut off though.

OldDuffer

214 posts

86 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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Too bright. If you say 'not too bright' or speak of cut-off or some other limp excuse, understand this:

This affects older drivers. Yours truly is in control of a large pile of metal coming straight 'at you'. These lights, so 'super-white', older drivers can't distinguish indicators from headlamps - hence where you insist "Not too bright" you're in far more danger than you think.

There's a price to be paid, the bill is a trip to a wheelchair for someone. Provided you won't mind paying, keep telling the likes of me there's nothing wrong.

It's not about you. It's not about what you think... When high and low-beam looks the same to a high proportion of drivers, all of us should worry.


Edited by OldDuffer on Tuesday 11th January 07:51

Wills2

22,799 posts

175 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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OldDuffer said:
Too bright. If you say 'not too bright' or speak of cut-off or some other limp excuse, understand this:

This affects older drivers. Yours truly is in control of a large pile of metal coming straight 'at you'. These lights, so 'super-white', older drivers can't distinguish indicators from headlamps - hence where you insist "Not too bright" you're in far more danger than you think.

There's a price to be paid, the bill is a trip to a wheelchair for someone. Provided you won't mind paying, keep telling the likes of me there's nothing wrong.

When high and low-beam looks the same to some drivers, all of us should worry.
Probably time to hand your licence in.



OldDuffer

214 posts

86 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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Wills2 said:
Probably time to hand your licence in.

Perhaps that is the correct solution, trouble is... when it's not me, but the next fool that finds your lights too bright, thus he puts you in that wheelchair, how will that help you?


Edited by OldDuffer on Tuesday 11th January 08:12

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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This is the point someone will tell you to 'hand your licence in'.

Apparently the DVLA have a special department to handle the returned licences of people who were told to give them up on social media.

Edit to add, by the time I'd written this it had happened. rofl

Edited by Johnnytheboy on Tuesday 11th January 07:59

OldDuffer

214 posts

86 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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Johnnytheboy said:
This is the point someone will tell you to 'hand your licence in'.

Apparently the DVLA have a special department to handle the returned licences of people who were told to give them up on social media.
Again you've missed the point, the poll would indicate that 60% odd feel lights are too bright. That is a lot.Those drivers could hand their licences in, only they're not going to. And they're headed 'at you'.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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OldDuffer said:
Johnnytheboy said:
This is the point someone will tell you to 'hand your licence in'.

Apparently the DVLA have a special department to handle the returned licences of people who were told to give them up on social media.
Again you've missed the point, the poll would indicate that 60% odd feel lights are too bright. That is a lot.Those drivers could hand their licences in, only they're not going to. And they're headed 'at you'.
Sorry you've missed the point too.

I agree with you that they are too bright. My mockery was aimed at the PH hivemind bots that pop up up and say "hand your licence in" on threads like this.

OldDuffer

214 posts

86 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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Johnnytheboy said:
Sorry you've missed the point too.

I agree with you that they are too bright. My mockery was aimed at the PH hivemind bots that pop up up and say "hand your licence in" on threads like this.
Apologies. The poll indicates 66% at the mo'. That is a helluva' lot of road-users unable in some form or other, to drive as safely as the opposing 34% might 'see' this. Are they saying 66% of us have eye-sight problems?


Edited by OldDuffer on Tuesday 11th January 08:15

PH User

22,154 posts

108 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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OldDuffer said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Sorry you've missed the point too.

I agree with you that they are too bright. My mockery was aimed at the PH hivemind bots that pop up up and say "hand your licence in" on threads like this.
Apologies. The poll indicates 66% at the mo'. That is a helluva' lot of road-users unable in some form or other, to drive as safely as the opposing 34% might 'see' this. Are they saying 66% of us have eye-sight problems?


Edited by OldDuffer on Tuesday 11th January 08:15
Piston heads has a very high average age and we all love a good old moan about how stuff isn't as good now as it used to be, hence the results.

You can get glasses with yellow lenses if you are struggling with car head lights.

JakeT

5,427 posts

120 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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I’m in my 20s and some headlights are an issue.

As other posters have noted, it’s the sharp cutoff with LED/HID lamps, and poorly adjusted halogens. Staring at the nearside kerb is usually the best way to cope if dazzled for me.

FredAstaire

2,336 posts

212 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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My wifes car has headlights that are too bright. Must get flashed multiple times even on the shortest journeys as people think we're driving along with full beams on.

Ive looked and looked and cannot find any way of adjusting the beam pattern down a bit.

jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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The auto dipping and "matrix turn off a zone" headlights are not 100% either, cresting hills and tighter bends seem to give them issues sometimes.

Regbuser

3,479 posts

35 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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FredAstaire said:
My wifes car has headlights that are too bright. Must get flashed multiple times even on the shortest journeys as people think we're driving along with full beams on.

Ive looked and looked and cannot find any way of adjusting the beam pattern down a bit.
What's the car model?

jamesbilluk

3,689 posts

183 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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Mostly no, except the new MINI’s LED Headlights really do seem too bright.

The car I’ve recently purchased has some matrix leds (first time I’ve had these) very clever system, I do find the car is being flashed quite a bit though, even if the approaching car has been blanked off in the light beam.

grudas

1,307 posts

168 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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too bright ? no.

badly aligned? yes! these jumpy laser/led lights are insane. Anyone behind you or in front of you on anything bar flat road will be difficult! nissan, ford and mini spring to mind as the worst. I presume the lights try to scatter the light around the car in front but fail to do it fast enough which results in constant light jumping in and out of your view.

being in a low sports car makes it worse, my s2000 is a pain! I drive with rear view mirror folded up at night because I can't see.