RE: TVR: Now they've got a price list...

RE: TVR: Now they've got a price list...

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JohnG1

3,471 posts

206 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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JaseB said:
V12 Vantage or DBS money, I know I'm biased but that's just silly!!
+1 to the above.

A TVR is on my bucket list, although behind an XJ220 and several other pieces of heavy metal. But £100k. Dream on!!!

Sicob

478 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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They should charge a trillion pounds and make it exclusive, although at 100k I imagine any buyer would be in a club of one.

domV8

1,375 posts

182 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Correct me if I am wrong, but nowhere do I see any mention of strengthening the chassis - the primary area where the cars are deficient...

While I appreciate that this is similar outputs to SC upgrades, many of the peeps who have charged their engines have taken the opportunity to brace/strengthen the chassis in order to take the increase in power/torque levels.

This being common knowledge, I find it unbelievable that when charging £100k - this fundamental requirement has not even been considered...

eek

Dom

judas

5,992 posts

260 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Sicob said:
They should charge a trillion pounds and make it exclusive, although at 100k I imagine any buyer would be in a club of one.
Nic Smolenski, earier today:


JonRB

74,597 posts

273 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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judas said:
Nic Smolenski, earier today:

I hear the Sag will have "frikken laser beams" coming out of the vents under the headlights.

Bezerk

392 posts

160 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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991 seems good value now!

GR1FF1F

523 posts

235 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Having always kept my head below the parapet for fear of getting it blown off on this subject, I would be interested to get some reasonable insight into why the invective is so strong on this subject. I always had the view, whilst TVR was struggling by, that I was privileged to own a car which was evidently underpriced - in the sense that it obviously cost less to build than what I was paying, in fact I used this often as my justification to my wife as to what great value my next TVR was.

Inevitably the company went bust, maybe through over-ambition, but I never got the sense that it was a deliberate negligent action in a way that should be considered a sleight or insult to the customers or employees of the company. That said, I fully acknowledge that those closer to the business practices at the time may have strong views about how the interest of the employees in particular may have been better represented.

In the above context I can probably imagine at some stage considering the V8 rebuild should, God forbid, my straight six fail - I've always had a small hint of sadness that the familiar V8 burble has been missing from my most recent car.

So before I get my head shot off, I just thought I'd say that my comments are not directed at anyone specifically; it's more a general comment against cynicism and bile, which I feel my personal support of the marque allows me to opine on.

Vladikar

635 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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ktm301p said:
WojaWabbit said:
Can someone remind me why TVR died before, please?
Just search PH forums, there is over a gazillion answers on there

JonRB

74,597 posts

273 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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GR1FF1F said:
So before I get my head shot off, I just thought I'd say that my comments are not directed at anyone specifically; it's more a general comment against cynicism and bile, which I feel my personal support of the marque allows me to opine on.
I think a very large part of it is Aesop's Fable about the Little Boy Who Cried Wolf.

Or the wife of a wife-beater who has heard "I love you really, baby" one too many times.

cookie1600

2,120 posts

162 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Oddball RS said:
Well i've just ordered mine..............
I wish I had customers like you.....



alex_gray255

6,313 posts

206 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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I may be asking for a beat up here. But for a new supercar of this spec - is 96k really silly money? I thought so when I first saw it and then I had to consider what you were getting and also what similar "supercars" cost.

It has been almost 6 years since TVR folded - 50k for a Sag was unsustainable then. Is this simply better reflecting the costs of the cars in this bracket...

Food for thought (or flaming if you wish biggrin )

BuzzLightyear

1,426 posts

183 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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JonRB said:
900T-R said:
... probably got his money back (and then some) when he sold to NS at a time that the company long had become unsustainable in that shape and form, and has had a ball doing what he liked best for 23 years. What's not to like?

64 is no age to die, though - but as a whole I think TVR has been quite good to PW. smile
So true. Peter must have been laughing all the way to the bank with that one. Especially since the other potential purchaser were doing Due Diligence and would probably have backed out once all the facts came out. NS doing a Victor Kayam ("I loved it so much I bought the company") must have been a godsend to PW.
You're probably exactly right from the financial perspective and whilst I'm sure this was very important to PW, I always got the feeling that he loved the cars and the company and invested something of himself (besides £££s) in the whole ethos and enterprise of TVR - this lead me to suggest his displeasure at the way things are being handled now. smile

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

283 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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alex_gray255 said:
for a new supercar of this spec - is 96k really silly money?
I think the clue is in the third word in my quote. IF it was a NEW car, no. But they aren't...

sherbert90

1,906 posts

153 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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As has been mentioned before, it's bizarre considering the residual values of cars such as 911's, Gallardos, 599's etc. I'd love to see TVR return to glory but that looks a million miles away with a pricing strategy like that.

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Give me F7CKING Strength!

Oh and I am not sure they can use that TVR logo - (checking with the person that I think may own the writes to it).

TobesH

550 posts

208 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Oddly intriguing. If I had the money to spare I can see the attraction of specifying a new 'born-again' money no object TVR. I would say they are pitching more towards the premium specialist market like Eagle E-Types, Autofarm Porsche, Morgan etc, etc...

M666 EVO

1,124 posts

163 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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OK so you get a beautiful car but are they saying they are going to re-engineer it so it doesn't break down like it used to or be terribly unreliable like old TVRs?

If so, why didn't they do that in the first place, a decade ago??

BTW I will have a Cerbera pls idea

snorky

2,322 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Good God you can tell NS used to be a banker can't you - he has handled TVR about as well as the bankers handled our economy lately...

MX7

7,902 posts

175 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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geoffphead said:
MX7 said:
I thought that too. As new, with 1,000 miles.



And it leaves you £45k for a new Aston Martin Cygnet.

What was the most expensive TVR from the Blackpool era?
This car lovely ??? its not TVR lovely, it looks like the little blue motor Clarkson took through the beeb offices!!!
but with several steroids added.
I didn't say it was lovely, and nor do I think that TVRs are the best looking cars. It never occurred to me that people purchased TVRs solely because of their looks. No ugly, but not the prettiest.

richard300 said:
However, it all falls down when i think that i would also like (to be able to turn them off from time to time) a modern traction and stability control system, top level build quality, a great warranty and dealer network to fall back on, I’d like to know that i had some level of crash protection and that to make up for all the added weight that all the above bestows on a car, the materials used to construct my car were cutting edge and lightweight.
Nicely put.

carsnapper

334 posts

242 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Bucket. Of. Frogs.