RE: TVR: Now they've got a price list...
Discussion
domV8 said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but nowhere do I see any mention of strengthening the chassis - the primary area where the cars are deficient...
While I appreciate that this is similar outputs to SC upgrades, many of the peeps who have charged their engines have taken the opportunity to brace/strengthen the chassis in order to take the increase in power/torque levels.
This being common knowledge, I find it unbelievable that when charging £100k - this fundamental requirement has not even been considered...
Dom
The £24K refurb option, though, specs 'refurbed and improved' chassis. Of course, the level of 'improvement' could be anything from better prep/ powder coating to a wholesale adoption of the latest wishbones/uprights/pick up points for the older cars...While I appreciate that this is similar outputs to SC upgrades, many of the peeps who have charged their engines have taken the opportunity to brace/strengthen the chassis in order to take the increase in power/torque levels.
This being common knowledge, I find it unbelievable that when charging £100k - this fundamental requirement has not even been considered...
Dom
Edited by 900T-R on Wednesday 23 November 14:43
JonRB said:
I think a very large part of it is Aesop's Fable about the Little Boy Who Cried Wolf.
Or the wife of a wife-beater who has heard "I love you really, baby" one too many times.
Let me think about that. The little boy in the fable was basically an attention seeker, so maybe that fits Comrade Smol to some extent, but my sense is that the villagers here are, and have from day one been, sitting at the bottom of the mountain as opposed to continually trapsing up there with cheque in hand to buy a new automobile. I just wonder how many of those who snipe are actually potential customers in the first instance.Or the wife of a wife-beater who has heard "I love you really, baby" one too many times.
Now, the wife-beater analogy is quite emotive, but are we really suffering, are our emotions being toyed with, have we had a metaphorical slap with a hairbrush ?
Anyway, thanks for your insight, and I'm glad to see we have a very similar taste in cars (if not in shoes I'm pleased to say
)mbrown5 said:
If they want to sell new TVR's for £100k, why build Chimaera's and Griffith's that are a 20 year old design? If they were offereing a brand new Typhon with an LS V8 for £100k it might make some sense. I can only guess that they haven't got the moulds for the Typhon.
It's the way a bespoke operation er, operates - of course 99 out of 100 would go for a Sag or Tuscan 2 (3?) - but if anyone would want a Chim or Griff improved to a similar standard why not? In some eyes the Chim/Griff/Cerb era spawned the prettiest TVRs...I bought a brand new cerb for £45k in 1999. Loved it, hated the fact it always broke - I had the speed six engine which liked taking holidays in Blackpool.
Ok so a crate engine with new engine mounts is harking back to putting the Rv8 in the chimps and griffs of old but they were £40k!
The engine wont break but as others have said just buy the vette for half the price.
What work have they done to improve the electrics, safety, build quality of the interior to justify the extra 50k? Don't get me wrong I still love them, but a sorted griff 500 suddenly looks a bargain!
Ok so a crate engine with new engine mounts is harking back to putting the Rv8 in the chimps and griffs of old but they were £40k!
The engine wont break but as others have said just buy the vette for half the price.
What work have they done to improve the electrics, safety, build quality of the interior to justify the extra 50k? Don't get me wrong I still love them, but a sorted griff 500 suddenly looks a bargain!
MX7 said:
I thought that too. As new, with 1,000 miles.
And it leaves you £45k for a new Aston Martin Cygnet.
What was the most expensive TVR from the Blackpool era?
The Ultima's chassis is about as stiff as a 90yr old's hard-on. We had one and it needed 300kg of strengthening to bring it close to the stiffness we required.And it leaves you £45k for a new Aston Martin Cygnet.
What was the most expensive TVR from the Blackpool era?
I must admit, it would be nice to have the chance to buy a new Tuscan convertible. The price point does seem a little tough to comprehend though. The good old Morgan Roadster V6 tops out at £40,000 + options, stick a V8 under the bonnet, maybe you are maxing out at £50-60k tops.
It would have been nice to see them launch this "truly bespoke" version of the company with an example of the workmanship to demonstrate capability....and, of course, to satisfy the infamous Custard Test
It would have been nice to see them launch this "truly bespoke" version of the company with an example of the workmanship to demonstrate capability....and, of course, to satisfy the infamous Custard Test
Moycie said:
I must admit, it would be nice to have the chance to buy a new Tuscan convertible. The price point does seem a little tough to comprehend though. The good old Morgan Roadster V6 tops out at £40,000 + options, stick a V8 under the bonnet, maybe you are maxing out at £50-60k tops.
What's the base price of the new Plus Eight again - £71K which just about includes an engine, four wheels and a steering wheel (door handles optional)?In the Netherlands, any Aero 8 (currently Supersports) starts at well over 200,000 euro nowadays...
In US$ that'd get you a nice used Ferrari F430, with enough to do the next $10,000 service, insurance and gas.
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/ferrari...
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/ferrari...
Surely it would be more sensible to buy a TVR donor and re engineer it/restore it/rebuild it yourself?? And probably cost a lot less than half the absurd £100k being bandied around???
I always kind of thought a lot of TVR owners enjoyed twirling the spanners and righting the niggly bits; the most reliable ones seem to be like Ducati's the ones where the owner has intervened on all the known probs!!! (I can say that as a Ducati fixer :-) )
Sad for TVR to have yet another 'world beater' wirte up that will probably come to zero...
I always kind of thought a lot of TVR owners enjoyed twirling the spanners and righting the niggly bits; the most reliable ones seem to be like Ducati's the ones where the owner has intervened on all the known probs!!! (I can say that as a Ducati fixer :-) )
Sad for TVR to have yet another 'world beater' wirte up that will probably come to zero...
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