RE: Official: Toyota GT 86 revealed (at last)
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A miss from Toyota for me!
They had a chance to bring out an exciting well priced coupe that they could of aimed at the under 30s. A Civic Type R in Coupe clothes... Unfortunately at 28K its just too expensive. Its more than a TT, close to a 370z and not far away from some really good used metal...
Baah, disappointed.
They had a chance to bring out an exciting well priced coupe that they could of aimed at the under 30s. A Civic Type R in Coupe clothes... Unfortunately at 28K its just too expensive. Its more than a TT, close to a 370z and not far away from some really good used metal...
Baah, disappointed.
Massive disappointment as I had been looking forward to the finished article for a while and I had ignored the terrible way it had been portrayed so far.
The idea of a simple RWD/200HP/1200KG/low COG coupe appealed a lot but it looks very fussy and over priced, although some people pay £30K for a Golf apparently...
A year old 370z at £20k seems good value now...or maybe the Toyota will depreciate quickly too, but I am not even sure as who will buy one new ??????
The idea of a simple RWD/200HP/1200KG/low COG coupe appealed a lot but it looks very fussy and over priced, although some people pay £30K for a Golf apparently...
A year old 370z at £20k seems good value now...or maybe the Toyota will depreciate quickly too, but I am not even sure as who will buy one new ??????
Robmarriott said:
Here's hoping that Subaru smash this to pieces with a 25k 300bhp version!
Never gonna happen. The Subaru version according to EVO is the same handling and power as the GT 86, so I'd expect the same price as well. Even if it were more powerful, it wouldn't undercut Toyota's price.As others have said, it's way too expensive for what you are getting. It's meant to be an entry level, RWD, drivers car. Who exactly is gonna be able to afford this? I've been in my current job for 5+ years and graduated 9 years and I know I can't afford this. 22 or 24k, maybe. 28k, no. Just no.
Given it's powertrain, surely it will only be minutes after launch that there will be 300bhp turbo versions on the roads, however I cannot forgive the styling or the price.
Whilst the price can be attributed to the exchange rate of the Yen (I'm sure its a bargain in its domestic market), and normal inflation of car prices over the last 5 years, the styling is a real miss in my opinion ...... This really could have been lovingly crafted as a junior LF-A for the masses, and covetted by people like me who are desperate for Lotus/Porsche standards of steering and handling, yet want to carry a mountain bike occasionally, and want to cover 20k miles per year on a sensible PPM cost.
Whilst the price can be attributed to the exchange rate of the Yen (I'm sure its a bargain in its domestic market), and normal inflation of car prices over the last 5 years, the styling is a real miss in my opinion ...... This really could have been lovingly crafted as a junior LF-A for the masses, and covetted by people like me who are desperate for Lotus/Porsche standards of steering and handling, yet want to carry a mountain bike occasionally, and want to cover 20k miles per year on a sensible PPM cost.
I so want to love this car. But it's a real shame it's not more of a looker. Maybe the proportions will look better in person? (I hope....)
As pics make it looks a bit fussy, a bit awkward, a bit bland and a touch ugly. And somehow looking like it's been done before appearance to the overall shape.
£28k if that's a starting price is a bit steep IMO too, well too steep for me to consider, as any options are likely to make this a £30k+ car. I'd rather the extra weight of the 370z for that money as you'd gain in visual drama, power, speed and styling.
Shouldn't this thing be pitched as an alternative to hot hatches or similar ability? Not as a slightly cheaper slower Cayman offering
Oh yeah, is that 200hp not actually 200hp but 200PS? So 197hp imperial??
As pics make it looks a bit fussy, a bit awkward, a bit bland and a touch ugly. And somehow looking like it's been done before appearance to the overall shape.
£28k if that's a starting price is a bit steep IMO too, well too steep for me to consider, as any options are likely to make this a £30k+ car. I'd rather the extra weight of the 370z for that money as you'd gain in visual drama, power, speed and styling.
Shouldn't this thing be pitched as an alternative to hot hatches or similar ability? Not as a slightly cheaper slower Cayman offering
Oh yeah, is that 200hp not actually 200hp but 200PS? So 197hp imperial??
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