RE: SOTW: Rover 825i Sterling

RE: SOTW: Rover 825i Sterling

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mig25_foxbat2003

5,426 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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This is a KV6 unit, which only diehard Rover beards will go near. Almost unrecognisable from the second-gen unit which saw service in the 75 and ZT, the versions in the 800 were basically hand-built prototypes, and have a justified reputation for going "pshhht" after fewer miles than this one has covered. If this was an 827 Sterling or an 820 Turbo Sport, I'd be all over it like a tramp on chips, but an 825i? No ta.

(Source, before MGJohn jumps on me... http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/2011/08/26/engines... )

edited for duff link

davemac250

4,499 posts

206 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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bmthnick1981 said:
davemac250 said:
The 827 was a good car, just not really up to the job I had to do in them.
Which was?
Chasing faster, more agile cars.


SWoll

18,420 posts

259 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
825 is a brilliant car in many ways. Lots of room, comfy, rode well and quiet. Not a Jag I admit, but way better than many would think.

Huge 8 inch speakers in the rear shelf make it good for drum and bass music so I'm told too....
No.

My dad had an 827SLI many moons ago and will happily admit that for the money he paid it is the worst car he has ever owned..

Unreliable, badly built, wheezy V6, bad gearbox, drank like a fish and wallowed around through corners.

Had the misfortune of driving it a couple of times myself as a young un. primary memory is of it feeling like piloting a stenna ferry...

He replaced it with a similar vintage 5 Series. Like night and day.

sparkster8

118 posts

193 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Strangely drawn to the coupe.... yet a couple of hours ago I was looking at Fiat Coupe 20V turbo for some cheap fun and now I'm looking at a Rover 800 coupe. I need to go for a walk....

Henry Fiddleton

1,581 posts

178 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I love these. A nice sterling in dark blue with cream leather would be most welcome.

Vitesse (spelling!) are quick.

Madmatt74

273 posts

158 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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My old man had loads of these from an E reg 827SI through to an 825 Sterling.
None ever broke down, All were very comfy and quite fast.

Sterling had all the toys you ever needed with piped leather and one even had rear reclining seats.

I sooo want one of these for my next Ramshackle Rally!

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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davemac250 said:
When driven hard the brakes catch fire, the wheel nuts undo and the gearbox throws a fit.

I probably drove them harder than most though.

The 827 was a good car, just not really up to the job I had to do in them.
What job were you doing???

McSam

6,753 posts

176 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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bmthnick1981 said:
davemac250 said:
The 827 was a good car, just not really up to the job I had to do in them.
Which was?
Bank jobs?

mig25_foxbat2003

5,426 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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McSam said:
bmthnick1981 said:
davemac250 said:
The 827 was a good car, just not really up to the job I had to do in them.
Which was?
Bank jobs?
More like chasing after people who'd done bank jobs, shirley?

sparkster8

118 posts

193 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Yes that was what I was thinking of a Vittesse (spelling?) coupe with the T16 lump. Had a 620ti which was an absolute hoot with it's grandad looks and impressive puff. Impressive reliability as well I might add.

appletonn

699 posts

261 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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My Dad had 2 827 Vitesses, which both clocked up over 100k miles and were generally reliable and decent cars at the time.

Trouble was they followed an SD1 3.5 V8 Vitesse with Janspeed exhaust and Piper cam, so were decidely tame and slow by comparison...!

cookie1600

2,118 posts

162 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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mig25_foxbat2003 said:
More like chasing after people who'd done bank jobs, shirley?
clap


Madmatt74

273 posts

158 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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sparkster8 said:
Yes that was what I was thinking of a Vittesse (spelling?) coupe with the T16 lump. Had a 620ti which was an absolute hoot with it's grandad looks and impressive puff. Impressive reliability as well I might add.
My sister had the 620Ti which was fantastic.
I ran out of reasons to borrow it in the end! frown

At one point my family had 4 Rovers.
Dad - Sterling
Mum - 620SI
Sis - 118Vi/620Ti
Me - 420GSI

All were really reliable except my 420 wich cost 9K to fix in year 2/3 (After Warranty)
Thank god the company paid! smile

sparkster8

118 posts

193 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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The 827 was a good car, just not really up to the job I had to do in them.



Which was?


Outrun the Sweeney ?

davemac250

4,499 posts

206 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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We were given one as a pursuit car - ex-trafpol when I worked at Croydon nick.

At the time we were going through a spate of cash point thefts - mostly the ahole thing by some of the travelling community.

Their car of choice at the time was a quick 3 series or a 'borrowed' Cosworth.

The Rover was good in a straight line but through a curve (corners were not to bad) and they started to pitch front to back. Expansion joints on the Croydon Flyover were arse clenching moments over 100mph, where as in the 220gti that followed it wasn't a problem.

On a quick run, it was pretty common for the brakes to be on fire on arrival - not that they faded that much. They tended to ignite when the car had been stopped for a few minutes.

The worst thing was the autobox - it was a pig and the cars spent more time in the workshops for the gearbox breaking than on the road.

In the end they were replaced in the shortterm by 216 and 220 GTi's which were pretty good and then VW VR6's, Cavaliers and Vectra V6 before the BMW's took over.


300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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SWoll said:
300bhp/ton said:
825 is a brilliant car in many ways. Lots of room, comfy, rode well and quiet. Not a Jag I admit, but way better than many would think.

Huge 8 inch speakers in the rear shelf make it good for drum and bass music so I'm told too....
No.

My dad had an 827SLI many moons ago and will happily admit that for the money he paid it is the worst car he has ever owned..

Unreliable, badly built, wheezy V6, bad gearbox, drank like a fish and wallowed around through corners.

Had the misfortune of driving it a couple of times myself as a young un. primary memory is of it feeling like piloting a stenna ferry...

He replaced it with a similar vintage 5 Series. Like night and day.
lol a 5 Series, which new would likely have been double the cost. Great comparison then.


We had one too, an R plate ircc bought almost new from a rover main dealer (it was their demo car).

It was a met green 825i Sterling saloon auto.

It replaced a 6.0 XJ12 much to my disapproval.

However the Rover was very comfy and while the leather and wood wasn't of the same quality as the Jaguar, it was still easily a cut above a similar age Vauxhall or Mondeo.

It was good on fuel tending to average around 33mpg in normal use. It wasn't anywhere near as quick as the 6.0 evidently, but it went ok, it revved very smoothly, gear change was good and non sluggish, it would see over 135mph on the speedo and wasn't what you'd call slow.

Nothing broke on it, nothing went wrong. Not even a light bulb. I admit it wasn't perhaps the most sporty drive, but it was never meant to be, it did ride very very well and you could still hussle it about if you wanted too.

We sold it to someone who lived locally, they still have it. And as far as I know they've not had a single issue with it either.

cjgreaves41

106 posts

156 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Dimski

2,099 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Cruise control, auto gearbox, air con and loads of space?

Cheap comfortable motoring for a year. I like. smile

Alfa numeric

3,027 posts

180 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Am I right in thinking that this was the only high end Rover since the early 60's that wasn't available with a V8 at some point in its life?

I loved these when I was a kid but they don't have the same cachet as the SD1 they replaced.

sparkster8

118 posts

193 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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http://pistonheads.com/sales/3305180.htm

Thats more like it
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Like it - just the comment about wandering to the left worries me. If I was selling it I would have had it tracked therefore I instantly think something is bent/damaged underneath. Ignoring that though I like it !