RE: Driven: Toyota GT 86

[P I Staker]

white_goodman said:

boost sales

I see what you did there.

[Ninjaboy]

That i like

[pilchardthecat]

Good on you toyota. Rwd, light, normally aspirated... a proper car.

Bmw/audi/etc - pay attention you're being shown how to make a driver's car, since you seem to have forgotten

[StormLoaded]

i see GReddy have got their mitts on a Scion (Toyota) already.

Looks sweet

[Dagnut]

StormLoaded said:

i see GReddy have got their mitts on a Scion (Toyota) already.

Looks sweet

Are the Brembos standard?

[sat1983]

Looks spot on!!

[StormLoaded]

Brembo's are a TRD optional extra - 6pots front, 4 pots rear. (according to the leaked docs ages ago)


Optional TRD 18"s + Brembo upgrade ...apparently

Edited by StormLoaded on Tuesday 13th December 13:25

[sat1983]

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/toyota-gt-86-video...

[Fatman2]

Looks better everytime I see a real photo of one.

Have to say it's much improved without that stupid looking rear spoiler too.

[LuS1fer]

One of the few cars that seems to have disguised the height of the safety-compliant bonnet too. So many have tried and failed with big bulbous noses.

[hornetrider]

StormLoaded said:

>Erect<

Looks good in black!

[forzaminardi]

The black one looks absolutely terrific. Losing the pointless lip spoiler in the Toyota UK press images makes it look much smoother. Lovely. Black it is for me.

[cossey]

I am quite glad I ordered mine in black now. Time to start saving for a new set of wheels as well.

[VinceFox]

hornetrider said:

StormLoaded said:

>Erect<

Looks good in black!

Christ, that looks totally different, so much betterer.

[StormLoaded]

hornetrider said:

>Erect<

Looks good in black!

cossey said:

I am quite glad I ordered mine in black now. Time to start saving for a new set of wheels as well.

ordered mine in pearly white.. wasnt sure on how the black would look but it does look sweet as f*k i have to admit.

those are Ray's alloys on that - but look v.similar to the official TRD optional extras.. so may just go with the official options (+ brembos).. really like em.. may just have em painted black tho

[andytk]

LuS1fer said:

One of the few cars that seems to have disguised the height of the safety-compliant bonnet too. So many have tried and failed with big bulbous noses.

This is entirely down to the subaru engine. Apparently one of the reasons for using it is because it has a low profile allowing a low bonnet line within current pedestrian impact regs.

And, yes, I agree pedestrian impact regs have totally fked up a whole generation of cars. (certainly in the looks department anyway)

Andy

[hornetrider]

StormLoaded said:

those are Ray's alloys on that - but look v.similar to the official TRD optional extras.. so may just go with the official options (+ brembos).. really like em.. may just have em painted black tho

Will look the Don with black wheels. And mirrors.

[andytk]

otolith said:

Eurofu.ckers said:

The fleet average to be achieved by all cars registered in the EU is 130 grams per kilometre (g/km) by 2012, a 19% reduction. A so-called limit value curve implies that heavier cars are allowed higher emissions than lighter cars while preserving the overall fleet average.

In 2012, 65% of each manufacturer's newly registered cars must comply on average with the limit value curve set by the legislation. This will rise to 75% in 2013, 80% in 2014, and 100% from 2015 onwards.

If the average CO2 emissions of a manufacturer's fleet exceed its limit value in any year from 2012, the manufacturer has to pay an excess emissions premium for each car registered. This premium amounts to €5 for the first g/km of exceedance, €15 for the second g/km, €25 for the third g/km, and €95 for each subsequent g/km. From 2019, already the first g/km of exceedance will cost €95.

http://ec.europa.eu/clima/policies/transport/vehicles/cars/index_en.htm

It's soon going to start getting very expensive to sell power cheaply.

Holy st, from 2015 a 160g/km car (which the GT-86 is) will cost you 2,610 Euros extra in taxes.

This is assuming that Toyota's fleet sales are only averaging 130gm/km so the GT-86 has to pay its way.

Unless Toyota's "dull" fleet can lower the average that is.

Why isn't this piece of Euromeddling front page news?

Andy

Edited by andytk on Tuesday 13th December 23:00

[StormLoaded]

andytk said:

Holy st, from 2015 a 160g/km car (which the GT-86 is) will cost you 2,610 Euros extra in taxes.

This is assuming that Toyota's fleet sales are only averaging 130gm/km so the GT-86 has to pay its way.

Unless Toyota's "dull" fleet can lower the average that is.

Why isn't this piece of Euromeddling front page news?

[quote]the manufacturer has to pay an excess emissions premium for each car registered

i think Toyota have/had a plan to have every model in its range with a hybrid option by end of 2013 (this was before GT86 released/widely known about.. so guess thats excluded).. but an average of 130 isnt so bad, if the limited numbers GT model is only 160, factor in the hybrids and i doubt Toyota have much to worry about with their averages.

the Subaru version of this car may be bumped up in price though to accomodate the penalties!?


Hornet, yeah black mirrors too.. didnt think of that but will look sweet. you ordering a ragtop version then?

[5lab]

white_goodman said:

Gary C said:

For me a turbo would ruin the ethos.

Surely it would just help broaden its appeal and boost sales for Subaru and Toyota. How many affordable, turbocharged RWD coupes are out there at the moment? I'm not saying that there should not be a cheaper NA model but most of the RWD coupes that I can think of from the past were available in normally aspirated and/or turbocharged form such as RX7, 200SX, Supra, Porsche 944 or BMW 2002. It would be wrong to turn it into an Impreza STI coupe but that's not what I was suggesting.

the next wrx is rumoured/confirmed (can't remember which) to have the 270bhp turbo version of this very engine. I'd be shocked if the obvious config wasn't done at some point