RE: Chris Harris joins PistonHeads
Discussion
j123 said:
What makes Chris special among car scribblers is IMHO not his words but his love of cars and his undying desire to acquire and/or drive ALL the TYPES of the very best in breed CARS- some about which he later owns, seeks to own.
Cars like his custom made tuthill 911, prodives 97 wrc car, Prodrives e30M3 to mention but a few he has brought to the fore and told us 'hey you know all those cars we hacks go on and on about year in and out, well let me tell you something they ain't nothing compared to what custom builders and racers can achieve and sell directly to us.' That is exciting and unique among his peers, who mostly are content to fly to a factory or track and drive write it up and sleep.
Now all he has to do is tell us how the real cars he most admires actually drive. Its important because cars like these that he dreams about, should in essence be the cars we one day re-create in one form or another as the next generation in road cars- as very sadly we indeed have seen the future of the performance car and it looks dull.
I hope Harris can summon a sermon or few that lets us know that there is a level of car design far higher than a lot of the gauche jewelry/bling that he rants on and on about year in. Cars which none of us will ever drive nor cars which can even be enjoyed on real roads. Really when it comes to road cars real people can use and enjoy, Ferrari, Porsche and lambo have nothing coming for us but marketing driven sanitized big chariots for the few million rich- who are left, who are in awe of the legends, the imagery and ring times. Thats what was so revolutionary about evo magazine in 98/99/00/01 etc. they celebrated the useable performance road car and its relevance due to the feel and progression delivered at human speeds. It never was really meant to mean only "the thrill." We've now gone from group drives of several talented drivers at evo, to an one man test of idolized versions of what once was and is now: 700 hp wide bodied rockets being raced by someone in no relevance or relation to us!- that often would be the ever smiling Chris Harris. Lets not overlook the obvious that somehow we must reverse the very strong tide of that is the sanitized, robotized automobile. Its time for a new generation of useable performance road cars and enthusiasts of said. j
Cars like his custom made tuthill 911, prodives 97 wrc car, Prodrives e30M3 to mention but a few he has brought to the fore and told us 'hey you know all those cars we hacks go on and on about year in and out, well let me tell you something they ain't nothing compared to what custom builders and racers can achieve and sell directly to us.' That is exciting and unique among his peers, who mostly are content to fly to a factory or track and drive write it up and sleep.
Now all he has to do is tell us how the real cars he most admires actually drive. Its important because cars like these that he dreams about, should in essence be the cars we one day re-create in one form or another as the next generation in road cars- as very sadly we indeed have seen the future of the performance car and it looks dull.
I hope Harris can summon a sermon or few that lets us know that there is a level of car design far higher than a lot of the gauche jewelry/bling that he rants on and on about year in. Cars which none of us will ever drive nor cars which can even be enjoyed on real roads. Really when it comes to road cars real people can use and enjoy, Ferrari, Porsche and lambo have nothing coming for us but marketing driven sanitized big chariots for the few million rich- who are left, who are in awe of the legends, the imagery and ring times. Thats what was so revolutionary about evo magazine in 98/99/00/01 etc. they celebrated the useable performance road car and its relevance due to the feel and progression delivered at human speeds. It never was really meant to mean only "the thrill." We've now gone from group drives of several talented drivers at evo, to an one man test of idolized versions of what once was and is now: 700 hp wide bodied rockets being raced by someone in no relevance or relation to us!- that often would be the ever smiling Chris Harris. Lets not overlook the obvious that somehow we must reverse the very strong tide of that is the sanitized, robotized automobile. Its time for a new generation of useable performance road cars and enthusiasts of said. j
P-l-ease all of this grovelling, is it really necessary? He's just more journo riff-raff.
Drive Blind said:
as long as he stops using the word/phrase 'skids'
ie 'lets do some skids'
not looking through 19 pages to see if anybody else has posted similar
skid [skɪd]ie 'lets do some skids'
not looking through 19 pages to see if anybody else has posted similar
vb skids, skidding, skidded
1. (Engineering / Automotive Engineering) to cause (a vehicle) to slide sideways or (of a vehicle) to slide sideways while in motion.
HTH
Ipelm said:
P-l-ease all of this grovelling, is it really necessary? He's just more journo riff-raff.
Already posted this on (another) Chris Harris thread, but it took me ages on my iPhone whilst bored round a relative's house. In all seriousness, I'll miss your writing in Evo, but at least you're coming to the only other place I read about cars. Welcome to PH!
Dear Chris, I wrote you but still ain't callin'
I left my mobile, my email, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not-a got 'em
There probably was a strike at the Royal Mail or somethin'
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
But anyways, fk it, what's been up? Man how's your 911?
My girlfriend's pregnant too, I'm bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'm a call her?
I'm a name her Monkey
I read about your Ferrari thing too I'm sorry
I had a car company ban me over some bhing on Jalopnik
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I'm your biggest fan
I even got the st that you did on Drivers Republic
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I even liked the st you did on the Koenigsegg Agera too, that st was fat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is David87
Dear Chris, you still ain't called or posted on PH, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad, I just think it's fked up you don't answer fans
If you didn't wanna talk to me in the Welsh layby on eCOTY
You didn't have to, but you coulda signed an autograph on my 1:43 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
That's my little model, man, I ain't got a real one
We waited in the blistering cold for you,
For four hours and you just said, "No."
That's pretty stty man, it's like your favourite fking car
I want it to be just like yours, man, but the wheels aren't white
I ain't that mad though, I just don't like bein' lied to
Remember when we met at the Porsche Experience Centre, you said if I'd write you
You would write back, see I'm just like you in a way
I never liked the MX-5 either,
It makes you look gay and all the used ones are beaters
I can relate to what you're saying in your informative video reviews
So when I have a stty day, I drift away and put 'em on
Cause I don't really got st else so that st helps when I'm depressed
I even got a tattoo of your name across my upper thigh
Sometimes I even think about getting the James May one on my other thigh removed
It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See everything you say is real, and I respect you cause you tell it
My girlfriend's jealous cause I talk about you 24/7
But she don't know you like I know you Chris, no one does
She don't know what it's like for car geeks like us growing up
You gotta call me man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, David87, P.S.
We should race together too.
Dear Mister "I'm Too Good To Call Or Write My Fans",
This will be the last package I ever send your ass
It's been six months and still no word, I don't deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters;
There ain't been no strikes
So this is my cassette I'm sending you, I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the Nordschleife
Hey Chris, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by Phil Collins, "In the Air of the Night"
About that guy who could a saved that other guy from drowning
But didn't, then Phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him?
That's kinda how this is, you could a rescued me from drowning
Now it's too late, I'm on a thousand downers now, I'm drowsy
And all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall (even the one of your E63 AMG)
I love you Chris, we coulda raced together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it
I hope your conscience eats at you and you can't breathe without me
See Chris,
Shut up bh! I'm tryin' to talk!
Hey Chris, that's my girlfriend screamin' in the boot
But I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you
Cause if she suffocates she'll suffer more, and then she'll die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the Fuchsröhre now
Oh st, I forgot, how am I supposed to post this st on PH?
Dear Chris, I wrote you but still ain't callin'
I left my mobile, my email, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not-a got 'em
There probably was a strike at the Royal Mail or somethin'
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
But anyways, fk it, what's been up? Man how's your 911?
My girlfriend's pregnant too, I'm bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'm a call her?
I'm a name her Monkey
I read about your Ferrari thing too I'm sorry
I had a car company ban me over some bhing on Jalopnik
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I'm your biggest fan
I even got the st that you did on Drivers Republic
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I even liked the st you did on the Koenigsegg Agera too, that st was fat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is David87
Dear Chris, you still ain't called or posted on PH, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad, I just think it's fked up you don't answer fans
If you didn't wanna talk to me in the Welsh layby on eCOTY
You didn't have to, but you coulda signed an autograph on my 1:43 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
That's my little model, man, I ain't got a real one
We waited in the blistering cold for you,
For four hours and you just said, "No."
That's pretty stty man, it's like your favourite fking car
I want it to be just like yours, man, but the wheels aren't white
I ain't that mad though, I just don't like bein' lied to
Remember when we met at the Porsche Experience Centre, you said if I'd write you
You would write back, see I'm just like you in a way
I never liked the MX-5 either,
It makes you look gay and all the used ones are beaters
I can relate to what you're saying in your informative video reviews
So when I have a stty day, I drift away and put 'em on
Cause I don't really got st else so that st helps when I'm depressed
I even got a tattoo of your name across my upper thigh
Sometimes I even think about getting the James May one on my other thigh removed
It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See everything you say is real, and I respect you cause you tell it
My girlfriend's jealous cause I talk about you 24/7
But she don't know you like I know you Chris, no one does
She don't know what it's like for car geeks like us growing up
You gotta call me man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, David87, P.S.
We should race together too.
Dear Mister "I'm Too Good To Call Or Write My Fans",
This will be the last package I ever send your ass
It's been six months and still no word, I don't deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters;
There ain't been no strikes
So this is my cassette I'm sending you, I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the Nordschleife
Hey Chris, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by Phil Collins, "In the Air of the Night"
About that guy who could a saved that other guy from drowning
But didn't, then Phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him?
That's kinda how this is, you could a rescued me from drowning
Now it's too late, I'm on a thousand downers now, I'm drowsy
And all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall (even the one of your E63 AMG)
I love you Chris, we coulda raced together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it
I hope your conscience eats at you and you can't breathe without me
See Chris,
Shut up bh! I'm tryin' to talk!
Hey Chris, that's my girlfriend screamin' in the boot
But I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you
Cause if she suffocates she'll suffer more, and then she'll die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the Fuchsröhre now
Oh st, I forgot, how am I supposed to post this st on PH?
David87 said:
Already posted this on (another) Chris Harris thread, but it took me ages on my iPhone whilst bored round a relative's house. In all seriousness, I'll miss your writing in Evo, but at least you're coming to the only other place I read about cars. Welcome to PH!
Dear Chris, I wrote you but still ain't callin'
I left my mobile, my email, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not-a got 'em
There probably was a strike at the Royal Mail or somethin'
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
But anyways, fk it, what's been up? Man how's your 911?
My girlfriend's pregnant too, I'm bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'm a call her?
I'm a name her Monkey
I read about your Ferrari thing too I'm sorry
I had a car company ban me over some bhing on Jalopnik
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I'm your biggest fan
I even got the st that you did on Drivers Republic
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I even liked the st you did on the Koenigsegg Agera too, that st was fat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is David87
Dear Chris, you still ain't called or posted on PH, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad, I just think it's fked up you don't answer fans
If you didn't wanna talk to me in the Welsh layby on eCOTY
You didn't have to, but you coulda signed an autograph on my 1:43 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
That's my little model, man, I ain't got a real one
We waited in the blistering cold for you,
For four hours and you just said, "No."
That's pretty stty man, it's like your favourite fking car
I want it to be just like yours, man, but the wheels aren't white
I ain't that mad though, I just don't like bein' lied to
Remember when we met at the Porsche Experience Centre, you said if I'd write you
You would write back, see I'm just like you in a way
I never liked the MX-5 either,
It makes you look gay and all the used ones are beaters
I can relate to what you're saying in your informative video reviews
So when I have a stty day, I drift away and put 'em on
Cause I don't really got st else so that st helps when I'm depressed
I even got a tattoo of your name across my upper thigh
Sometimes I even think about getting the James May one on my other thigh removed
It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See everything you say is real, and I respect you cause you tell it
My girlfriend's jealous cause I talk about you 24/7
But she don't know you like I know you Chris, no one does
She don't know what it's like for car geeks like us growing up
You gotta call me man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, David87, P.S.
We should race together too.
Dear Mister "I'm Too Good To Call Or Write My Fans",
This will be the last package I ever send your ass
It's been six months and still no word, I don't deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters;
There ain't been no strikes
So this is my cassette I'm sending you, I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the Nordschleife
Hey Chris, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by Phil Collins, "In the Air of the Night"
About that guy who could a saved that other guy from drowning
But didn't, then Phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him?
That's kinda how this is, you could a rescued me from drowning
Now it's too late, I'm on a thousand downers now, I'm drowsy
And all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall (even the one of your E63 AMG)
I love you Chris, we coulda raced together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it
I hope your conscience eats at you and you can't breathe without me
See Chris,
Shut up bh! I'm tryin' to talk!
Hey Chris, that's my girlfriend screamin' in the boot
But I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you
Cause if she suffocates she'll suffer more, and then she'll die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the Fuchsröhre now
Oh st, I forgot, how am I supposed to post this st on PH?
SplendidDear Chris, I wrote you but still ain't callin'
I left my mobile, my email, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not-a got 'em
There probably was a strike at the Royal Mail or somethin'
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
But anyways, fk it, what's been up? Man how's your 911?
My girlfriend's pregnant too, I'm bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'm a call her?
I'm a name her Monkey
I read about your Ferrari thing too I'm sorry
I had a car company ban me over some bhing on Jalopnik
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I'm your biggest fan
I even got the st that you did on Drivers Republic
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I even liked the st you did on the Koenigsegg Agera too, that st was fat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is David87
Dear Chris, you still ain't called or posted on PH, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad, I just think it's fked up you don't answer fans
If you didn't wanna talk to me in the Welsh layby on eCOTY
You didn't have to, but you coulda signed an autograph on my 1:43 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
That's my little model, man, I ain't got a real one
We waited in the blistering cold for you,
For four hours and you just said, "No."
That's pretty stty man, it's like your favourite fking car
I want it to be just like yours, man, but the wheels aren't white
I ain't that mad though, I just don't like bein' lied to
Remember when we met at the Porsche Experience Centre, you said if I'd write you
You would write back, see I'm just like you in a way
I never liked the MX-5 either,
It makes you look gay and all the used ones are beaters
I can relate to what you're saying in your informative video reviews
So when I have a stty day, I drift away and put 'em on
Cause I don't really got st else so that st helps when I'm depressed
I even got a tattoo of your name across my upper thigh
Sometimes I even think about getting the James May one on my other thigh removed
It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See everything you say is real, and I respect you cause you tell it
My girlfriend's jealous cause I talk about you 24/7
But she don't know you like I know you Chris, no one does
She don't know what it's like for car geeks like us growing up
You gotta call me man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, David87, P.S.
We should race together too.
Dear Mister "I'm Too Good To Call Or Write My Fans",
This will be the last package I ever send your ass
It's been six months and still no word, I don't deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters;
There ain't been no strikes
So this is my cassette I'm sending you, I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the Nordschleife
Hey Chris, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by Phil Collins, "In the Air of the Night"
About that guy who could a saved that other guy from drowning
But didn't, then Phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him?
That's kinda how this is, you could a rescued me from drowning
Now it's too late, I'm on a thousand downers now, I'm drowsy
And all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall (even the one of your E63 AMG)
I love you Chris, we coulda raced together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it
I hope your conscience eats at you and you can't breathe without me
See Chris,
Shut up bh! I'm tryin' to talk!
Hey Chris, that's my girlfriend screamin' in the boot
But I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you
Cause if she suffocates she'll suffer more, and then she'll die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the Fuchsröhre now
Oh st, I forgot, how am I supposed to post this st on PH?
j123 said:
What makes Chris special among car scribblers is IMHO not his words but his love of cars and his undying desire to acquire and/or drive ALL the TYPES of the very best in breed CARS- some about which he later owns, or seeks to own.
Cars like his custom made tuthill 911, prodives 97 wrc car, Prodrives e30M3 to mention but a few he has brought to the fore and told us 'hey you know all those cars we hacks go on and on about year in and out, well let me tell you something they ain't nothing compared to what custom builders and racers can achieve and sell directly to us.' That is exciting and unique among his peers, who mostly are content to fly to a factory or track and drive write it up and forget.
Now all he has to do is tell us how the real cars he most admires actually drive. Its important because cars like these that he dreams about, should in essence be the cars we one day re-create in one form or another as the next generation in road cars- as very sadly we indeed have seen the future of the performance car and it looks dull.
I hope Harris can summon a sermon or few that lets us know that there is a level of car design far higher than a lot of the gauche jewelry/bling that he rants on and on about year in- cars which none of us will ever drive nor cars which can even be enjoyed on real roads.
Really when it comes to road cars real people can use and enjoy, Ferrari, Porsche and lambo have NOTHING coming for us but marketing driven sanitized big chariots for the few million rich- who are left, who are in awe of the legends, the imagery and ring times. Yes, thats what was so revolutionary about evo magazine in 98/99/00/01 etc. they celebrated the useable performance road car and its relevance via the feel and progression delivered at human speeds. It never was really meant to mean only "the thrill." Meaden will tell you that if we could get into a conversation with him. We've now gone from group drives with highly thoughtful and talented drivers at evo, to a one man (harris and so many other "free-lancers") road tests of 700 hp wide bodied rockets being raced by someone in no relevance or relation to us!- that often would be the ever smiling Chris Harris. Lets not overlook the obvious: that somehow we must figure out a set of means towards reversing the very strong tide that is the sanitized, robotized automobile. Its time for a new generation of useable performance road cars and enthusiasts of said. j
Don't forget the GT3 RS Rally Edition he rode in:Cars like his custom made tuthill 911, prodives 97 wrc car, Prodrives e30M3 to mention but a few he has brought to the fore and told us 'hey you know all those cars we hacks go on and on about year in and out, well let me tell you something they ain't nothing compared to what custom builders and racers can achieve and sell directly to us.' That is exciting and unique among his peers, who mostly are content to fly to a factory or track and drive write it up and forget.
Now all he has to do is tell us how the real cars he most admires actually drive. Its important because cars like these that he dreams about, should in essence be the cars we one day re-create in one form or another as the next generation in road cars- as very sadly we indeed have seen the future of the performance car and it looks dull.
I hope Harris can summon a sermon or few that lets us know that there is a level of car design far higher than a lot of the gauche jewelry/bling that he rants on and on about year in- cars which none of us will ever drive nor cars which can even be enjoyed on real roads.
Really when it comes to road cars real people can use and enjoy, Ferrari, Porsche and lambo have NOTHING coming for us but marketing driven sanitized big chariots for the few million rich- who are left, who are in awe of the legends, the imagery and ring times. Yes, thats what was so revolutionary about evo magazine in 98/99/00/01 etc. they celebrated the useable performance road car and its relevance via the feel and progression delivered at human speeds. It never was really meant to mean only "the thrill." Meaden will tell you that if we could get into a conversation with him. We've now gone from group drives with highly thoughtful and talented drivers at evo, to a one man (harris and so many other "free-lancers") road tests of 700 hp wide bodied rockets being raced by someone in no relevance or relation to us!- that often would be the ever smiling Chris Harris. Lets not overlook the obvious: that somehow we must figure out a set of means towards reversing the very strong tide that is the sanitized, robotized automobile. Its time for a new generation of useable performance road cars and enthusiasts of said. j
Edited by j123 on Saturday 10th December 20:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GODepE5QlmQ
I think he is the best motoring journalist around at the moment. I met him at the launch of the latest GT3 at the Porsche centre at Silverstone. I thaught he was great. Very knowledgeable, likeable bloke - good wheelman too. Just sorry to hear EVO have not managed to keep him - a big loss for EVO - big plus for Pistonheads.
I wonder if he is a bit difficult to work with. Maybe not difficult in the sense of being socially awkward and what have you, but strong minded and inclined to stand up for his personal principles and do his own thing. I suggest this because it does not seem common for motoring journalists to move around as much as he does.
A shame he is only doing online stuff now; means the office printer will get a bit of a workout.
A shame he is only doing online stuff now; means the office printer will get a bit of a workout.
aucklander said:
I wonder if he is a bit difficult to work with. Maybe not difficult in the sense of being socially awkward and what have you, but strong minded and inclined to stand up for his personal principles and do his own thing. I suggest this because it does not seem common for motoring journalists to move around as much as he does.
A shame he is only doing online stuff now; means the office printer will get a bit of a workout.
I've worked with many journalists over the years. The best ones are often challenging to work with - it comes with the territory.A shame he is only doing online stuff now; means the office printer will get a bit of a workout.
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