RE: PH fleet: Golf GTI Edition 35
Discussion
E38Ross said:
sorry, i was being sarcastic....a few on here keep saying it's expensive as you could have xxx for the same price 2nd hand; which is a rather pointless thing to say IMO. dapearson was saying bang for buck you'd get an E92 M3 for the price of this golf, to which i replied with what you quoted me
I'm not sure why we appear to be arguing. Personally i wouldn't spend that kind of money on a golf. I get that comparing new to 2nd hand is perhaps a bit unfair. Having said that spanking £5k on an E46 M3 seems a little brave!!!Riggers: Getting back "on topic". Why is the later DSG better than the old? I really wanted a DSG when we went shopping for a VAG diesel hatch last year, but wasn't brave enough to buy one without an iron clad warranty.
My mk5 in its winter boots:
In this case 16" VAG steelies and Conti rubber. They have downsides in terms of outright grip and staightline stability, but overall make for a much nicer ride. As a result I've delayed replacing the crap standard oversprung & underdamped VW suspension until the spring.
SS7
In this case 16" VAG steelies and Conti rubber. They have downsides in terms of outright grip and staightline stability, but overall make for a much nicer ride. As a result I've delayed replacing the crap standard oversprung & underdamped VW suspension until the spring.
SS7
dapearson said:
Riggers: Getting back "on topic". Why is the later DSG better than the old? I really wanted a DSG when we went shopping for a VAG diesel hatch last year, but wasn't brave enough to buy one without an iron clad warranty.
I don't know about reliability and longevity, nor do I have any concrete facts for you (helpful , aren't i?).It's just that the newer installations of DSG I've sampled (Polo GTI, Golf 6, Caddy diesel) seem more responsive and generally better matched to their respective powerplants.
I'm pretty certain it'll be to do with the engineers properly getting their heads around DSG technology, and learning how to get the best from it.
Hellbound said:
So there you go, Golf wins. Golf R wins even more.
I have to say that with the new R's being the same 2.0 lump from the GTI's, they are rather a pointless car now. Edited by Hellbound on Wednesday 14th December 16:16
VW have seriously limited engine choices since say the very confusing line up of blocks in the MkIV.
New GTI with remap will be cheaper, faster and has some heritage.
jimjim150 said:
I have to say that with the new R's being the same 2.0 lump from the GTI's, they are rather a pointless car now.
VW have seriously limited engine choices since say the very confusing line up of blocks in the MkIV.
New GTI with remap will be cheaper, faster and has some heritage.
remap the R and you have a 310+ bhp 4wd golf that can put the power down, which is pretty neat imoVW have seriously limited engine choices since say the very confusing line up of blocks in the MkIV.
New GTI with remap will be cheaper, faster and has some heritage.
jimjim150 said:
Hellbound said:
So there you go, Golf wins. Golf R wins even more.
I have to say that with the new R's being the same 2.0 lump from the GTI's, they are rather a pointless car now. Edited by Hellbound on Wednesday 14th December 16:16
VW have seriously limited engine choices since say the very confusing line up of blocks in the MkIV.
New GTI with remap will be cheaper, faster and has some heritage.
Riggers said:
dapearson said:
Riggers: Getting back "on topic". Why is the later DSG better than the old? I really wanted a DSG when we went shopping for a VAG diesel hatch last year, but wasn't brave enough to buy one without an iron clad warranty.
I don't know about reliability and longevity, nor do I have any concrete facts for you (helpful , aren't i?).It's just that the newer installations of DSG I've sampled (Polo GTI, Golf 6, Caddy diesel) seem more responsive and generally better matched to their respective powerplants.
I'm pretty certain it'll be to do with the engineers properly getting their heads around DSG technology, and learning how to get the best from it.
nick30 said:
do you mean in D/S mode or manual?? I always thought the DSG in my 07 car was brilliant but i kept it in manual always because couldnt stand the way it chose to change gear when you didnt want it to in auto mode..
Yeah - D/S mode - it's genuinely getting to the point where you might actually call it 'good'...WCZ said:
jimjim150 said:
I have to say that with the new R's being the same 2.0 lump from the GTI's, they are rather a pointless car now.
VW have seriously limited engine choices since say the very confusing line up of blocks in the MkIV.
New GTI with remap will be cheaper, faster and has some heritage.
remap the R and you have a 310+ bhp 4wd golf that can put the power down, which is pretty neat imoVW have seriously limited engine choices since say the very confusing line up of blocks in the MkIV.
New GTI with remap will be cheaper, faster and has some heritage.
dapearson said:
oO Trouble Oo said:
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3431139.htm
Not feeling the matt black wrap, but with the change left over could get some decent wheels, some lowering springs an exhaust and turbo elbow to get 400 bhp without chipping the ecu and leave the engine warrantee intact...
Ok, not quite new but almost. And could probably get a brand new FQ360 for the price of the gti 35 these days?
Having had both, for me the Evo was a much nicer place to be in, if that's what you're after, or you can leave super cars in your wake, if that's your thrill.
They are also very exclusive, a golf is, well, just a golf.
Having said all that, Mitsu service and sales are low of the low.
You need to be careful suggesting alternative uses for the money round here, especially on used cars. They don't like it.Not feeling the matt black wrap, but with the change left over could get some decent wheels, some lowering springs an exhaust and turbo elbow to get 400 bhp without chipping the ecu and leave the engine warrantee intact...
Ok, not quite new but almost. And could probably get a brand new FQ360 for the price of the gti 35 these days?
Having had both, for me the Evo was a much nicer place to be in, if that's what you're after, or you can leave super cars in your wake, if that's your thrill.
They are also very exclusive, a golf is, well, just a golf.
Having said all that, Mitsu service and sales are low of the low.
nick30 said:
Wills2 said:
richard300 said:
Tinkering on the engine of some car "Sounds?? Just like a golf"---Erm I'm pretty sure that is a golf, a Mk3 VR6 Golf!!!
Not just me then... http://www.reallymeansounds.com/forum/threads/just...
Deserves a spot in the 'Badly Modified cars' thread though!
Hellbound said:
I'd like to see a real worldy running costs comparison with the Evo X/STI/135i. Things like servicing, parts, insurance, average fuel consumption, depreciation.
Hmmm...don't What Car do that sort of thing?
EDIT:
According to the beige turd that is What Car;
Well both the Impreza and Evo X feel cheap.
'... the Evo being pricey to run, with a frightening thirst for fuel, while the ride is punishing'. BMW 1 gets an average 3/5.
They seem to cream themselves over the Golf though. The VW gives everyone at What Car a permanent chub.
So there you go, Golf wins. Golf R wins even more.
Having driven the 135i & the Golf GTi, if it was my money, i'd take the BMW. But then i've always thought Golfs were vastly overrated & over priced.Hmmm...don't What Car do that sort of thing?
EDIT:
According to the beige turd that is What Car;
Well both the Impreza and Evo X feel cheap.
'... the Evo being pricey to run, with a frightening thirst for fuel, while the ride is punishing'. BMW 1 gets an average 3/5.
They seem to cream themselves over the Golf though. The VW gives everyone at What Car a permanent chub.
So there you go, Golf wins. Golf R wins even more.
Edited by Hellbound on Wednesday 14th December 16:16
richard300 said:
nick30 said:
Wills2 said:
richard300 said:
Tinkering on the engine of some car "Sounds?? Just like a golf"---Erm I'm pretty sure that is a golf, a Mk3 VR6 Golf!!!
Not just me then... http://www.reallymeansounds.com/forum/threads/just...
Deserves a spot in the 'Badly Modified cars' thread though!
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