RE: Pic of the Week: An MGB with a difference
Discussion
The alloys ARE indeed as used by the Jaguar 'D' type and, the MG 'A', I think, the twin cam..
MG B remains one of the very few cars from the 60's to look equally well placed today, now. It has always, for me, been a very handsome little car and I had 3 back in the 70's including a V8.. the V8 was very good, torquey and quick, but..
Frontline has for some time been promoting a conversion for both Midget and the 'B' using a 'K' series motor in various stages of tune. That seemed a likely runner and I have seriously considered it, but this is one stage for me, too far. Over £50k is Cayman money and, well, what kind of loony would do that..?
I fully appreciate that in building or having professionally restored, a 'B' with new shell etc and overhauled or new mechanicals would soon run up a tremendous bill, BUT, it's still a 'B', still old technology, still crippled with wind noise from the rain gutters. Even tho' I do love them, given the money I'd buy a new Cayman or something equally groovy.
What a traitor eh..? tt.
Sorry..
Billbothebear
MG B remains one of the very few cars from the 60's to look equally well placed today, now. It has always, for me, been a very handsome little car and I had 3 back in the 70's including a V8.. the V8 was very good, torquey and quick, but..
Frontline has for some time been promoting a conversion for both Midget and the 'B' using a 'K' series motor in various stages of tune. That seemed a likely runner and I have seriously considered it, but this is one stage for me, too far. Over £50k is Cayman money and, well, what kind of loony would do that..?
I fully appreciate that in building or having professionally restored, a 'B' with new shell etc and overhauled or new mechanicals would soon run up a tremendous bill, BUT, it's still a 'B', still old technology, still crippled with wind noise from the rain gutters. Even tho' I do love them, given the money I'd buy a new Cayman or something equally groovy.
What a traitor eh..? tt.
Sorry..
Billbothebear
I think a lot of posters are missing the point. Yes £50K is a lot of money for a BGT but this isn't just a BGT with an MX5 engine. It is a specialist low production car with suspension and drivetrain to make it a decent car.
To develop and build this commercially, costs monay. The end result looks to me to be a competant package, all be it a little dull in appearance.
Maybe if they did this to the old Triumph GT6 then it would be more worthwhile. Although I guess BMW have already done that and called it a Z4 Coupe. They were only as cheap as they were becuse they were built in quantity.
This firm aren't planning on selling these by the shipload so there may be enough buyers.
Now how about a nice modern TR6 - oh BMW have done that and called that a Z4 Roadster. How about a Mini? I think I'll stop there.
To develop and build this commercially, costs monay. The end result looks to me to be a competant package, all be it a little dull in appearance.
Maybe if they did this to the old Triumph GT6 then it would be more worthwhile. Although I guess BMW have already done that and called it a Z4 Coupe. They were only as cheap as they were becuse they were built in quantity.
This firm aren't planning on selling these by the shipload so there may be enough buyers.
Now how about a nice modern TR6 - oh BMW have done that and called that a Z4 Roadster. How about a Mini? I think I'll stop there.
I went to the NEC car show to look at Various E Types...as is my passion, when
I saw the LE 50.....WOW what a car. I am from that generation that fell in love with
these cars but could not afford one,I have an E and would love to own a LE50, because
its a car that will give any Porche a run for its money, but at the same time I would
own a period car (that will start every day), with all the refinements of a modern day car.
Hmmmm I wonder if my Bank manager still loves me.
I saw the LE 50.....WOW what a car. I am from that generation that fell in love with
these cars but could not afford one,I have an E and would love to own a LE50, because
its a car that will give any Porche a run for its money, but at the same time I would
own a period car (that will start every day), with all the refinements of a modern day car.
Hmmmm I wonder if my Bank manager still loves me.
Liquid Knight said:
My old MGB had a 200SX engine and running gear with a Hoyle (-esque home made version) IRS and a coilover converted front cross member.
Great fun and cost less than £1,500 all in.
£1500 ? A bargain.Great fun and cost less than £1,500 all in.
If your car had been built professionally with brand new shell, new engine, new suspension and trimmed it using the best materials that one could buy, what would have been the likely cost do you think.
threespires said:
Liquid Knight said:
My old MGB had a 200SX engine and running gear with a Hoyle (-esque home made version) IRS and a coilover converted front cross member.
Great fun and cost less than £1,500 all in.
£1500 ? A bargain.Great fun and cost less than £1,500 all in.
If your car had been built professionally with brand new shell, new engine, new suspension and trimmed it using the best materials that one could buy, what would have been the likely cost do you think.
B GT V6?
I remember a chap was trying to fit an Alfa 75 engine one ages ago. With the GM link to the 156 wouldn't it be easier to get an Omega Ecotec and fit that instead?
The weight advantage the V6 would have over the traditional V8 route (less and further back) would make it very worthwhile.
I remember a chap was trying to fit an Alfa 75 engine one ages ago. With the GM link to the 156 wouldn't it be easier to get an Omega Ecotec and fit that instead?
The weight advantage the V6 would have over the traditional V8 route (less and further back) would make it very worthwhile.
Agreed.
You'd need an adaptor plate for the bell housing on whatever gearbox you use, either cut a chunk out of the sump or run a dry one and custom make a set of engine mounts for the B cross member. Should be fairly straight forward. Best of all it's the age of the shell you need to consider so bin the cat' and all the other eco-crap so the engine can breathe better as well.
You'd need an adaptor plate for the bell housing on whatever gearbox you use, either cut a chunk out of the sump or run a dry one and custom make a set of engine mounts for the B cross member. Should be fairly straight forward. Best of all it's the age of the shell you need to consider so bin the cat' and all the other eco-crap so the engine can breathe better as well.
Better still save £20,000 and get this instead...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGB-GT-Sebring-Replica-1...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGB-GT-Sebring-Replica-1...
Liquid Knight said:
Better still save £20,000 and get this instead...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGB-GT-Sebring-Replica-1...
there was such car for sale many years ago in the Netherlands a LHD but with a big V8 out a TVR Griffith, a tuned 4.3 with 300hp very nice car but they had problems with the rear axle...it could only stand about 3.000 fast km or so and then needs replacement so it needed a better diff/axle but that was for the next owner to find out.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGB-GT-Sebring-Replica-1...
So I then let it go, I had not the extra money nor experience for those extra things to find out, and needed a bit more reliable car...
I've looked into dry sumping the V6 a little. It's a lot of cost, hassle and worth it only if you are running a racing team, I suspect cutting/modifying/reducing the sump to fit and then plumbing in an appropriately sized accusump to make up the difference would be the way to go. Plus it keeps the oil pressure up etc.
Liquid Knight said:
You'd need an adaptor plate for the bell housing on whatever gearbox you use, either cut a chunk out of the sump or run a dry one and custom make a set of engine mounts for the B cross member. Should be fairly straight forward. Best of all it's the age of the shell you need to consider so bin the cat' and all the other eco-crap so the engine can breathe better as well.
Liquid Knight said:
Better still save £20,000 and get this instead...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGB-GT-Sebring-Replica-1...
Now I do like that! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGB-GT-Sebring-Replica-1...
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