RE: Back-yard speed record attempt aims for 2,000mph

RE: Back-yard speed record attempt aims for 2,000mph

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robmlufc

5,229 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Mr Whippy said:
It's not clear either if he intends to use one or two X15 engines, two of them would be well over twice the rated thrust of the Bloodhound, and I'm assuming with much higher gas velocity/combustion pressure too!
If you read the article it says that he has two engines, one for the car and one as a spare.

Skater12

507 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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AyBee said:
Skater12 said:
Question 1.
What does a Home Built rocket car + 57,000 lbs of thrust make?

Is the answer A. 2000MPH land speed record, or B. Rather rapid end to a mans life?
Perhaps he would be happy with A + B? At least it could be on his gravestone? hehe
How far from the ground does a landspeed record become a rocket? tongue out
I reckon the record should still count if he leaves the ground, as what goes up must come down, and he'll hit it like a lawn dart!

mxspyder

1,071 posts

166 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Watching the Thrust SSC video really demonstrates the ferocity of driving a vehicle at that speed - I have watched it dozens of times and I still shocked!

Given the amount of money and highly skilled professionals that went into building it, I doubt it could be replicated or beaten by anyone who couldn't match their resources.

Having said that I love a trier and shed engineering, this is the perfect combo - good luck to him!

sunoco69

5,274 posts

166 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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I admire the under dog so I wish him all the very best in his quest.

However with speeds of 2,000 mph I have a feeling that garden shed engineering and a spirit of hope for the best is only going to end one way. I hope he his life insurance and an ejector seat!

Escort Si-130

3,275 posts

181 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Seems mroe than likely it would be B. I cant see it reaching that speed without taking off.


Skater12 said:
Question 1.
What does a Home Built rocket car + 57,000 lbs of thrust make?

Is the answer A. 2000MPH land speed record, or B. Rather rapid end to a mans life?

Fresh_Clip

197 posts

195 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Those landspeed.com guys have got a flippin' good idea there! Take the worlds most unsuccessful tactical fighter (Grumman Starfighter) remove wings, add wheels and presto-a-rooty! A perfectly good landspeed record car. Wow, gotta hand it to them yanks, wonder if it's got leaf springs and a live axle?
As for the other guy. Dind't he have the rocket engines left over from the Cadillac he had a run in the Mojave desert with??

Skater12

507 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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I wonder how the commentary of his attempt will go?
Somthing like this maybe......

"and there he goes, increasing speed rapidly in order to enter the measure mile"
"oh, wait, he's now changed his mind, and has decided to aim for the upper atmosphere in lots of small firey pieces"
"His wife, looking on with the same dissaproving look as the day he suggested he'd this feat, is currently flicking through a copy of his life insurance policy, shaking her head mouthing "i f***ing told you so!".

Council Baby

19,741 posts

191 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Modern day Burt Munro?? hehe

mxspyder

1,071 posts

166 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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sunoco69 said:
I hope he his life insurance and an ejector seat!
I wouldn't want to eject from the ground (or close to it!) at any speed, let alone 2000mph!

robmlufc

5,229 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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mxspyder said:
I wouldn't want to eject from the ground (or close to it!) at any speed, let alone 2000mph!
Watched a program about pilots ejecting over mach 1, the result was normally a mess. Russian seats actually coped better with it.

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

205 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Skater12

507 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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mxspyder said:
sunoco69 said:
I hope he his life insurance and an ejector seat!
I wouldn't want to eject from the ground (or close to it!) at any speed, let alone 2000mph!
If you ejected at 2000mph the forces on your body and ejector seat would be so high you'd probably be ripped to bits.
Even if you survived the initial ejection, the parachute wouldnt be able to survive the wind forces, and because you wouldnt be at high enough altitude, you'd just end up hitting the ground and bouncing half way across the united states, again in bits.

I think it's fairly safe to assume that no ejection system will be built into either the home-built car, or the Bloodhound.

robmlufc

5,229 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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I am guessing that a survival cell built from Adamantium would be the best bet, perhaps he has one kicking around.

Schnellmann

1,893 posts

205 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Morningside said:
This is the sort of fighting engineering spirit we had here.
Frank Whittle, Christopher Cockerell, Malcolm Campbell etc. NO computer CAD and yet they got built and worked.

Maybe he IS mad but being a 'garden shed' builder I say good luck to him.
Computer/CAD were not available for Whittle et al. Had they been, are you sure they wouldn't have used them? Did they deliberately ignore the best information/resources that were available to them in their time?

I support the spirit behind the idea but assume chances of success are pretty minimal. Actual, I assume chance of him trying are pretty minimal and think this is just a way of drumming up publicity for himself.

robmlufc

5,229 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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R500POP said:
zero/zero ejector seats get around the altitude issue, and you are correct, the Bloodhound SSC has no ejector.
zero/zero is for zero speed and zero altitude. Im guessing that zero/2000 might give even the most modern seats a few snags.

ukmike2000

476 posts

169 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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All this information about the size of the rocket engines - my interest would be focussed on the size of the brakes and parachutes! :-)

I wonder if this potential victim of his own enthusiasm has done any stress calculations on the wheels?

350Matt

3,740 posts

280 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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he's a dead man

BoRED S2upid

19,731 posts

241 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Love it. The guy is clearly nuts, he must be a member of PH's someone sign him up quickly.

Skater12

507 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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ukmike2000 said:
All this information about the size of the rocket engines - my interest would be focussed on the size of the brakes and parachutes! :-)

I wonder if this potential victim of his own enthusiasm has done any stress calculations on the wheels?
He's probably done his research, and decided on some chrome 17" rims, with Kuhmo tyres.
I hope he's got the correct offset, and that they are balanced, otherwise he might get some vibration between 1100mph and 1200mph by my calculations.

J4CKO

41,681 posts

201 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Bet he has loads of packages of parts arriving from a company called "ACME"