RE: SOTW: Hyundai Coupe V6

[Ted Rolson]

Mouse1903 said:

My parents had one of the very first Calibras back in 1991. Was never out the garage and the bottom end was going a few years later at only 30k. Shame as it was a head turner at the time

Funnily enough i believe the Bottom end went on my old one when after i got rid, still was a fun 2 years.

[Ted Rolson]

Ninjaboy said:

Do you have any facts to back up your statement "they can't make a decent amount of power because they would blow up"? or any of your other statements for that matter because it all sounds like BS to me. PS hearing something in a pub or your mate telling you doesn't make it a fact.

Cleary i have upset the PC brigade, its true Hyundai cannot make a good car engine, they might make mediocre cars but there engines are rubbish.Well considering i dont go to the pub because i dont drink, your point about that is wrong.I have been to a rolling road Bhp testing facility though, if i had 1000pound it would be going on something fun & with abit of class.

[anonymous-user]

Buy it for the stereo, bin the rest.

[anonymous-user]

Ted Rolson said:

Cleary i have upset the PC brigade, its true Hyundai cannot make a good car engine, they might make mediocre cars but there engines are rubbish.
Well considering i dont go to the pub because i dont drink, your point about that is wrong.
I have been to a rolling road Bhp testing facility though, if i had 1000pound it would be going on something fun & with abit of class.

don't get started on rolling roads

[elementad]

Think the new ones are supposed to be half decent with some fun to be had with that v6

[Rovinghawk]

Ted Rolson said:

its true Hyundai cannot make a good car engine, they might make mediocre cars but there engines are rubbish.

I take it you've never owned one? So how do you obtain this 'truth'?

RH

[Ted Rolson]

Rovinghawk said:

I take it you've never owned one? So how do you obtain this 'truth'?RH

An old dear who lives near me had one, i towed her to her house.She had one of those Santa Fe's, i towed her with a 20+ year old merc after her engine decided to seize, shes not one to complain but tells me never buy a Hyundai.Parts are $$ too.Her husband has had his landcruiser for a good 15+ years, nothing expensive yet and he drives like an 20 year old boy racer, also he goes off road & i mean off road!Also the place (no names) claimed it was her fault for driving through a Ford, even though they made it out to be a super duper 4x4 that could rival Range rovers when trying to sell it (Her words)They make cars on a budget for people with no sense, buy an older better quality vehicle for the same or less as a new Kia/Hyundai.Maybe its my old age, but they were naff in the 90's and nothings changed.

[Ted Rolson]

dod said:

Buy it for the stereo, bin the rest.

Good man

[anonymous-user]

Ted Rolson said:

some crap

Shirley the way they offer and have intercepted the us market us more that the st you are going on about.

[Mr2Mike]

Ted Rolson said:

Cleary i have upset the PC brigade, its true Hyundai cannot make a good car engine, they might make mediocre cars but there engines are rubbish.
Well considering i dont go to the pub because i dont drink, your point about that is wrong.
I have been to a rolling road Bhp testing facility though, if i had 1000pound it would be going on something fun & with abit of class.

Keep taking your medication and come back when you are a little more coherent.

[carl0s]

I quite like the Genesis. It's got more muscular proportions, actually looks good, is RWD, and has some power. Go Hunday! (That's how Peter Griffin says it!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtq4qDgkuGc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVxvTNdCbsw

[Ted Rolson]

The Spruce goose said:

Shirley the way they offer and have intercepted the us market us more that the st you are going on about.

The US Market? You having a laugh!Toyota done that 20 or so years ago by slapping L Badges and an extra 20k on the pricetag, Lexus.Americans with nothing personal arn't the sharpest people in the world.Worst example you could of used buddy.

[Ted Rolson]

Mr2Mike said:

Keep taking your medication and come back when you are a little more coherent.

Keep taking medication ? Heres a guy who thinks Kwaks handle well..... its you who needs it.You never see any old Hyundais or Kia's wonder why sunshine? I also would like to apologise if i have got under your skin, im like marmite either like me or dont TR.

[the_scorpion]

Ted Rolson said:

Rovinghawk said:

I take it you've never owned one? So how do you obtain this 'truth'?

RH

An old dear who lives near me had one, i towed her to her house.
She had one of those Santa Fe's, i towed her with a 20+ year old merc after her engine decided to seize, shes not one to complain but tells me never buy a Hyundai.
Parts are $$ too.
Her husband has had his landcruiser for a good 15+ years, nothing expensive yet and he drives like an 20 year old boy racer, also he goes off road & i mean off road!
Also the place (no names) claimed it was her fault for driving through a Ford, even though they made it out to be a super duper 4x4 that could rival Range rovers when trying to sell it (Her words)
They make cars on a budget for people with no sense, buy an older better quality vehicle for the same or less as a new Kia/Hyundai.
Maybe its my old age, but they were naff in the 90's and nothings changed.

That could just be a one off.

My missus bought an ex demo Santa Fe back in 2004 with 1100 miles on the clock and she still has it today. It has now covered 76,500 miles and absolutely nothing has ever gone wrong with it. It still looks (condition not shape) and drives as good as the day she picked it up. Not bad for what a lot of people call crap motors. She won't part with it for anything.

Ive never heard Hyundai compare any of the Santa Fe's to a Range rover but the new ones were compared to the Freelander.

[Rovinghawk]

Ted Rolson said:

I also would like to apologise if i have got under your skin, im like marmite either like me or dont

Care in the Community isn't working too well for you, is it?

RH

[4rephill]

carl0s said:

150hp in a mid-sized coupe is enough to have fun (thinking of my old GTV Twinspark, and of 1.8vvti Celicas), so I'm sure 167bhp is fine for a "fun" car. It's not supposed to be a /serious/ car is it !

It's not so much an issue with:Is 165 BHP enough to make this car fun?, 165 BHP may well, the query is: How, in 2002, have Hyundai only managed to extract 165 BHP from a 2.7 litre engine when BMW have been getting 171 BHP from a 2.5 litre engine since the M20 version back in 1985, and 192 BHP from their 2.5 litre M52 engine that was introduced in 1995?

And in the case of the M20 version, this 171 BHP was achieved with a 12-valve, belt driven SOHC engine. So there was 2 valves per cylinder and no fancy timing systems like VANOS, it was a fairly basic, mechanical engine (as opposed to one that has it's timing constantly adjusted by computers).

[elementad]

4rephill said:

carl0s said:

150hp in a mid-sized coupe is enough to have fun (thinking of my old GTV Twinspark, and of 1.8vvti Celicas), so I'm sure 167bhp is fine for a "fun" car. It's not supposed to be a /serious/ car is it !

It's not so much an issue with:Is 165 BHP enough to make this car fun?, 165 BHP may well, the query is: How, in 2002, have Hyundai only managed to extract 165 BHP from a 2.7 litre engine when BMW have been getting 171 BHP from a 2.5 litre engine since the M20 version back in 1985, and 192 BHP from their 2.5 litre M52 engine that was introduced in 1995?

And in the case of the M20 version, this 171 BHP was achieved with a 12-valve, belt driven SOHC engine. So there was 2 valves per cylinder and no fancy timing systems like VANOS, it was a fairly basic, mechanical engine (as opposed to one that has it's timing constantly adjusted by computers).

Those BMW advances make Hondas 1999 s2000 2 litre 240bhp engine sound like something from star trek.

Might just be a case of big V6 engine, not very tuned, not much r&d involved, not much stress on parts therefore can use cheaper components and offer the big warranty?

[a_bread]

4rephill said:

It's not so much an issue with:Is 165 BHP enough to make this car fun?, 165 BHP may well, the query is: How, in 2002, have Hyundai only managed to extract 165 BHP from a 2.7 litre engine when BMW have been getting 171 BHP from a 2.5 litre engine since the M20 version back in 1985, and 192 BHP from their 2.5 litre M52 engine that was introduced in 1995?

what about 192bhp from their 2.5 litre M50 engine that was introduced in 1990

[ninos]

For all those who have never driven one, try it out before you slate it. I had 4 of these and were all reliable.

First was a V6 putting out 202bhp fitted with full exhaust system including manifolds & 300cel sports cats and a cold air induction kit. A lot of the running gear in these are from the Mitsubishi varient and only thing you need to watch on a V^ is the service intervals are adhered to otherwise the big ends can go which result to a £2000 rebuild.

I have also owned 3 2.0 litre versions and although not as smooth as a V6 to drive, were excellent cars. They can be subtely modefied too without loosing tha OEM look. Here's a few pictures of my coupes:

2.0 Fitted with RX8 Alloys





Chrysler 300c rims:


The bad boy exhaust was changed not long after that pic.

And finally my V6 with 300c Alloys

[4rephill]

elementad said:

Those BMW advances make Hondas 1999 s2000 2 litre 240bhp engine sound like something from star trek.

Whoopee doo for Honda! (pity you have to rev the nuts off it to get it to do anything though isn't it! )

Based on your star Trek analogy, that makes the Hyundai output something that would have disappointed George Stephenson!

elementad said:

Might just be a case of big V6 engine, not very tuned, not much r&d involved, not much stress on parts therefore can use cheaper components and offer the big warranty?

Whichever way you cut it and try to explain it, 165 BHP from 2.7 litres is not very good!, even Chrysler's 2.7 litre V6's from 1998 was putting out@ 200HP!