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E38Ross
10,512 posts
81 months
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DJC said: SuperHangOn said: The want factor is high in this one. i notice they have a pic with all the old tax discs.....is there any logical reason as to why people bother to keep them?
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DJC
4,054 posts
77 months
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E38Ross said: i notice they have a pic with all the old tax discs.....is there any logical reason as to why people bother to keep them? I keep mine, but now you come to mention it I've no idea why. I do like to see that a previous owner has kept all the documents and invoices relating to their ownership of the car. I hate it when I am presented simply with a stamped service book, a V5 and the current years MOT. It just shows, to me, that they are as organised and anal as I am (or like to think I am).
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GBB
1,645 posts
28 months
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DJC said: I keep mine, but now you come to mention it I've no idea why.
I do like to see that a previous owner has kept all the documents and invoices relating to their ownership of the car. I hate it when I am presented simply with a stamped service book, a V5 and the current years MOT. It just shows, to me, that they are as organised and anal as I am (or like to think I am). Me too (documents that is). Same reason I like to see an immaculate house, etc. shows someone who takes care of stuff.
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E38Ross
10,512 posts
81 months
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i keep all my car documents and paperwork in chronological order in a huge folder, with MOTs being in their own little section 
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phil_cardiff
1,704 posts
77 months
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E38Ross said: i keep all my car documents and paperwork in chronological order in a huge folder, with MOTs being in their own little section Hmmm, I debate that approach but went for every bit of paperwork, including MOTs, in chronological order. It allows a potential buyer to see the mileage going up in order, rather than having to look at a seperate section to confirm genuine mileage. I need to get out more.
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Apache
38,246 posts
153 months
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E38Ross said: DJC said: SuperHangOn said: The want factor is high in this one. i notice they have a pic with all the old tax discs.....is there any logical reason as to why people bother to keep them? it's a psychological lever, and suggests diligence to all things related to the vehicle.....I think I've even actually used it as part of my man logic to convince the OH that a potential purchase is wise "but, but it even has all the old tax discs dear"
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Dusty964
5,451 posts
59 months
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That Ranger is lovely- all the car you could ever really need.
Timeless looks, comfy, decent spec, quick enough, will go anywhere.
God i miss mine
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E38Ross
10,512 posts
81 months
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phil_cardiff said: E38Ross said: i keep all my car documents and paperwork in chronological order in a huge folder, with MOTs being in their own little section Hmmm, I debate that approach but went for every bit of paperwork, including MOTs, in chronological order. It allows a potential buyer to see the mileage going up in order, rather than having to look at a seperate section to confirm genuine mileage. I need to get out more. Hmmm, that's a fair point actually. but, 9 times out of 10 the mileage is recorded on the invoice anyway...?
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hornetrider
40,804 posts
74 months
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E38Ross said: phil_cardiff said: E38Ross said: i keep all my car documents and paperwork in chronological order in a huge folder, with MOTs being in their own little section Hmmm, I debate that approach but went for every bit of paperwork, including MOTs, in chronological order. It allows a potential buyer to see the mileage going up in order, rather than having to look at a seperate section to confirm genuine mileage. I need to get out more. Hmmm, that's a fair point actually. but, 9 times out of 10 the mileage is recorded on the invoice anyway...? I'm with Ross - MOTs separate and chronological. Invoices separate and chronological. When I view a car I always like to look at the Service book/MOTs first to get a picture of mileage progression in my head. Then I'll delve into the invoices to find out what's been done. 
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phil_cardiff
1,704 posts
77 months
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E38Ross said: phil_cardiff said: E38Ross said: i keep all my car documents and paperwork in chronological order in a huge folder, with MOTs being in their own little section Hmmm, I debate that approach but went for every bit of paperwork, including MOTs, in chronological order. It allows a potential buyer to see the mileage going up in order, rather than having to look at a seperate section to confirm genuine mileage. I need to get out more. Hmmm, that's a fair point actually. but, 9 times out of 10 the mileage is recorded on the invoice anyway...? Yes of course but if you can slip the MOTs in chronologically then you can follow the car's history and mileage in a linear fashion which is easier. But either way is reassuring for the would be purchaser.
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Fox-
9,960 posts
115 months
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hornetrider said: I'm with Ross - MOTs separate and chronological. Invoices separate and chronological. When I view a car I always like to look at the Service book/MOTs first to get a picture of mileage progression in my head. Then I'll delve into the invoices to find out what's been done. I remember when we sold my fathers 530d about 18 months ago. I organised everything into order including an enormous wodge of BMW invoices for every peice of work it had ever had since purchased at 2 years old, all the MOT's, all the tyre invoices, everything. It had impeccable history. Two people viewed it. Neither of them were interested in looking through any of this paperwork. All they wanted to see was the fact it had an MOT. Shame.
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GBB
1,645 posts
28 months
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Fox- said: hornetrider said: I'm with Ross - MOTs separate and chronological. Invoices separate and chronological. When I view a car I always like to look at the Service book/MOTs first to get a picture of mileage progression in my head. Then I'll delve into the invoices to find out what's been done. I remember when we sold my fathers 530d about 18 months ago. I organised everything into order including an enormous wodge of BMW invoices for every peice of work it had ever had since purchased at 2 years old, all the MOT's, all the tyre invoices, everything. It had impeccable history. Two people viewed it. Neither of them were interested in looking through any of this paperwork. All they wanted to see was the fact it had an MOT. Shame. Me too. I make a point of actually walking them through the paperwork anyway just so they know what's been done and how much I (and others) have spent on the car, all part of the sales pitch and price justification  The more "specialist" the car, the more likely the purchaser is to want to see this.
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hornetrider
40,804 posts
74 months
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GBB said: Fox- said: hornetrider said: I'm with Ross - MOTs separate and chronological. Invoices separate and chronological. When I view a car I always like to look at the Service book/MOTs first to get a picture of mileage progression in my head. Then I'll delve into the invoices to find out what's been done. I remember when we sold my fathers 530d about 18 months ago. I organised everything into order including an enormous wodge of BMW invoices for every peice of work it had ever had since purchased at 2 years old, all the MOT's, all the tyre invoices, everything. It had impeccable history. Two people viewed it. Neither of them were interested in looking through any of this paperwork. All they wanted to see was the fact it had an MOT. Shame. Me too. I make a point of actually walking them through the paperwork anyway just so they know what's been done and how much I (and others) have spent on the car, all part of the sales pitch and price justification The more "specialist" the car, the more likely the purchaser is to want to see this. Funny you should say that Foxy. When I sold my absolutely mint Mk1 MX5 (for the asking) I had the massive file ready to walk the guy through the expenditure after the test drive. He arrived from the opposite end of the country, walked round the car, we took it out, we came back to my house and I put the kettle on. I asked him if he wanted to go through the paperwork. He replied, no it's ok, it's amazing and I can tell it's well looked after, I'll take it!
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E38Ross
10,512 posts
81 months
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GBB said: Fox- said: hornetrider said: I'm with Ross - MOTs separate and chronological. Invoices separate and chronological. When I view a car I always like to look at the Service book/MOTs first to get a picture of mileage progression in my head. Then I'll delve into the invoices to find out what's been done. I remember when we sold my fathers 530d about 18 months ago. I organised everything into order including an enormous wodge of BMW invoices for every peice of work it had ever had since purchased at 2 years old, all the MOT's, all the tyre invoices, everything. It had impeccable history. Two people viewed it. Neither of them were interested in looking through any of this paperwork. All they wanted to see was the fact it had an MOT. Shame. Me too. I make a point of actually walking them through the paperwork anyway just so they know what's been done and how much I (and others) have spent on the car, all part of the sales pitch and price justification The more "specialist" the car, the more likely the purchaser is to want to see this. we're an anal bunch aren't we
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r129sl
2,385 posts
72 months
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CampDavid said: r129sl said: I'm going to look at this today. I too rather like poverty spec. Is there no honour amoung bargists  Looking at it on a computer screen which is not broken, I see it is silver over grey and not smoke silver over beige. And therefore not of interest to yours truly. It's all yours.
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CampDavid
7,708 posts
67 months
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r129sl said: CampDavid said: r129sl said: I'm going to look at this today. I too rather like poverty spec. Is there no honour amoung bargists Looking at it on a computer screen which is not broken, I see it is silver over grey and not smoke silver over beige. And therefore not of interest to yours truly. It's all yours. Personally, I'd have probably gone with: "I really want it Paul but as you saw it first, I'm going to let you have it because I'm just a plain lovely guy, whom you now owe a weekend loan of a fruity press car to"
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hornetrider
40,804 posts
74 months
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CampDavid said: Personally, I'd have probably gone with:
"I really want it Paul but as you saw it first, I'm going to let you have it because I'm just a plain lovely guy, whom you now owe a weekend loan of a fruity press car to" 
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Robatr0n
11,514 posts
85 months
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CampDavid said: Personally, I'd have probably gone with:
"I really want it Paul but as you saw it first, I'm going to let you have it because I'm just a plain lovely guy, whom you now owe a weekend loan of a fruity press car to"  Paul, I really liked the look of that S280. Infact I had little to no sleep last night just thinking about how much I'd love to have it parked on my drive. But taking into account that you did see the car first and that I'm such a nice person, it's all yours. So, what car do I get to play with and for how long? 
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Egbert Nobacon
2,765 posts
112 months
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A lex said: Garlick said: A lex said: I trust you are up to speed on what to look for on W140s? Sort of(ish). It's been a while since I looked at one, so any tips welcomed before I get excited by the cloth and pay full-asking. - Trying to remember buying my S280*
Electrics, electrics, electrics. The engine loom should be OK on a car of this vintage, but its always a concern on any W140 IMO. If you are able to have a decent poke around the engine bay and take some tools with you its fairly easy to whip the cam cover off and inspect the loom around the coil packs. Window regulators have a habit of breaking. I doubt this one has soft close, but if it does check all of that very carefully. Even without soft close it still runs a compressor for the door locks and a few other things, its located under the rear bench, make sure it works well! ABS pumps and steering racks/pumps have a tendency to go pop, check for fluid leaks etc. Check all 4 arches and front wings for rot. Dont be too concerned if its sitting a little lower at the back than the front, and even more to one side than the other - the rear springs sag and Merc supply 'pads' to even out the rear suspension if needed. Dont be surprised if the IR key has a very poor range, its a characteristic rather than a fault. Make sure there are no clunks from the gearbox on the downshifts. I forget the name but theres also some kind of tension disc in the driveline somewhere that can make a very obnoxious 'pop' when accelerating if its tired. If the AC is working you are on to a winner. If not, 9/10 its the compressor thats kaput, and thats many times the asking price to fix. Check for oil leaks along the side and top of the block. The M104 engine can blow the top and rear main seals quite easily if there are any breathing/pressure problems within the engine. HTH Many of these are starting to rust quite badly underneath. Check exposed brake pipes, where the brake pipes are fixed to the floor (the brackets screw into the floor, the floor is very thin and rusts easily. If the rear one rusts out thats close enough to a suspension/subframe mount to fail the mot), metal fuel pipe, bumper mounts, subframe mount floor fixings, front inner wings, spare wheel well. A thorough underfloor inspection is adviseable as all this can be hidden by a fresh application of underseal.
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volks al
3,997 posts
83 months
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Right I really need something slightly better than the e430 on fuel. What are the Saab Dame edna range like? Need an estate, and 30 mpg petrol is fine. Oil changes and suspension from what I can read.
Or is a 9-3 better?
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